Mr. Hoopah! Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 This sounds like great news. Interesting what concessions the owners made on the revenue sharing formula.espn.comAmong the details NFL commissioner Roger Goodell is revealing to owners Tuesday at the owners' meeting in Rosemont, Ill., is that in the next proposed agreement players will receive a 48 percent share of "all revenue," without the $1-billion-plus credit off the top that had been a point of contention in earlier negotiations, according to sources familiar with the presentation.Under the new formula being negotiated, players will receive 48 percent of all revenue and will never dip below a 46.5 percent take of the money, sources said.Proposed CBA DetailsDetails of a proposed collective bargaining agreement being pitched to NFL owners Tuesday, according to sources:• Players get 48 percent of "all revenue," without extra $1-billion-plus off top that previously had been requested by owners.• Players' share will never dip below 46.5 percent, under new formula being negotiated.• Teams required to spend minimum 90-93 percent of the salary cap.• Rookie wage scale part of deal but still being "tweaked."• 18-game regular season designated only as negotiable item and at no point is mandated in deal.• New 16-game Thursday night TV package beginning in 2012.• Owners still will get some expense credits that will allow funding for new stadiums.• Retirees to benefit from improved health care, pension benefits as revenue projected to double to $18 million by 2016.-- ESPN's Chris MortensenIn the previous collective bargaining agreement, players received approximately 60 percent of "total revenue" but that did not include $1 billion that was designated as an expense credit off the top of the $9 billion revenue model. Owners initially were seeking another $1 billion in credit only to reduce that amount substantially before exercising the lockout on March 13.Ultimately, the two sides have decided to simplify the formula, which will eliminate some tedious accounting audits of the credit the players have allowed in the previous deal. NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith has stated that players were actually receiving around 53 percent of all revenues instead of the much advertised 60 percent.Owners still will get some expense credits that will allow funding for new stadium construction, sources said.A rookie wage scale will be part of the new deal but is still being "tweaked," and the much-discussed 18-game regular season will be designated only as a negotiable item with the players and at no point is mandated in a potential agreement. A new 16-game Thursday night TV package beginning in 2012 will be the source of new revenue.As revenues are projected to possibly double by 2016 to $18 billion annually, retired players will benefit from improved health and pension funding that is expected to increase significantly.Players believe they can justify a 48 percent take because of the projected revenue growth, as well as built-in mechanisms that require teams to spend a minimum of 90-93 percent of the salary cap, sources said. The mandatory minimum spending increase is an element that concerns lower-revenue clubs, sources say.The negotiating teams for the owners and players, led by Goodell and Smith, are expected to return to the table most likely Wednesday and Thursday at an undisclosed site, hoping to build off the momentum of three strong weeks of talks under the supervision of a court-appointed mediator, U.S. Magistrate Judge Arthur Boylan.Cautious expectations on the two sides reaching an agreement in principle are varied, ranging from one-to-three weeks with the hopes of beginning a new league year (free agency, etc.) by mid-July.Any breakdown in talks could result in the loss of preseason games and threaten the opening of the regular season.Chris Mortensen is ESPN's senior NFL analyst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyCo Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 nice.. so close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Tzu 7 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 New 16-game Thursday night TV package beginning in 2012.While that sounds cool to me as a fan... prepare to hear players complaining about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hoopah! Posted June 21, 2011 Author Share Posted June 21, 2011 While that sounds cool to me as a fan... prepare to hear players complaining about it.Screw them. I'd rather generate the extra revenue this way than with an 18 game schedule. However, the NFL Network shouldn't have the monopoly on Thursday night games if this happens. ESPN or someone will pay a hefty price for those rights, making everyone happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandy Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I think it's harder on the fans on Thursday nights - especially those of us who have to travel to the games. I make a 3+ hour trek both ways - it's tough on Friday working after those Thursday night games.And no - I won't stay home - I'll just moan when I see them on the schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SugarNips Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 16 Thursday games nice!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukfalc Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 That's interesting stuff and sounds very positive. Having negotiated storngly on additional $1bn expense credit, I'm surprised that they have now moved away from that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 That's interesting stuff and sounds very positive. Having negotiated storngly on additional $1bn expense credit, I'm surprised that they have now moved away from that.By lowering the percentage so much, the owners about break even now, and make out like bandits 5 years from now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconmaniac Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 GIT R DUN!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phattywankenobi Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 The Thursday night games started just so NFL Network could play the exclusivity game which annoyed me since my cable provider dropped NFL Network after their inaugural year and I'm not cutting off my nose to spite my face. The other problem I have with that is as a season ticket holder already going to Monday, Sunday night, Friday (meaningless preaseason), and then Thursday night games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birds_till_death Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 That's interesting stuff and sounds very positive. Having negotiated storngly on additional $1bn expense credit, I'm surprised that they have now moved away from that.True, but at least this model is much more sustainable in the long-run than the credit IMO. It's kinda like the other thread, where if they took the extra money off the top, the owners percentage would increasingly decline as revenue and costs continued to go up.At least with this model it is much more sustainable.Does anyone know exactly how the salary cap is figured? i can understand why small market teams are coming out in dissent of this because of the 90-93% salary floor. I also like how the NFLPA and Smith have come off of there "same deal or no deal" stance. I think they feel the 8th circuit going against them, so they are more willing to talk than they were previously. If they go from the quoted 53% to 48%, i think that's proof that the NFLPA is finally willing to concede some things and negotiate to get this deal done and that swings the onus back to the owners to work out their own revenue sharing model amongst themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 This deal seems like a real good deal for the big revenue teams like the Cowboys and the Redskins. Then again, without straight socialism among the owners, I suppose it is kinda hard to structure a deal that doesn't benefit those teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandy Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 By lowering the percentage so much, the owners about break even now, and make out like bandits 5 years from now.A large part of that depends on the true-ups portion of the CBA and what they agree on there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birds_till_death Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 A large part of that depends on the true-ups portion of the CBA and what they agree on there.If they get this done without missing any games, i can't imagine how league revenue and popularity can go anywhere but up from here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandy Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 If they get this done without missing any games, i can't imagine how league revenue and popularity can go anywhere but up from hereNo, I'm referring to the true-ups - additional unexpected revenue being added to the players portion. The owners won't necessarily "make out like bandits" if they are required to raise the pay-out for unplanned, unbudgeted revenues which set the cap - instead - the cap will go up with unplanned revenues after being set in a year - never dropping below the floor - but without hitting a ceiling - so it will remain fairly stable.If they agree to that part of it - which appears to actually be the biggest sticking point in the agreement, then this deal will be closed quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banned Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Past the 100 day mark. This is nonsense! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandy Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Past the 100 day mark. This is nonsense!Considering that this should have been done 2+ years ago - yes, it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finally Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Blech. I hate Falcons Thursday night games. It throws off the whole week. I hope they are always non-conference and no more than one each year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconState Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Sounds good to me hopefully they something done soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOCTHEFALCONFAN™ Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Great. Now can we please hurry up and get a deal done!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler11 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Great news - I always thought a deal would get done before July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulitik Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Seems simpler, which is usually better. I hope this works out. Looks like both sides are trying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEORGIAfan Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Good to see them get one done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarterback Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I think it's harder on the fans on Thursday nights - especially those of us who have to travel to the games. I make a 3+ hour trek both ways - it's tough on Friday working after those Thursday night games.And no - I won't stay home - I'll just moan when I see them on the schedule.Personally, I dislike ALL night games at home! I think it is ridiculous to expect any working person to get home at 1:00 PM on a Thursday, Sunday or Monday night game and then get up 4-5 hours later to head to work...all because of the need to capture the west coast audience at 5:30-6:00 pm pacific time.These home night games are the first ones I look to sell or give away to those who don't work or have children that have to get up for school the next morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slamee101 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I think it's harder on the fans on Thursday nights - especially those of us who have to travel to the games. I make a 3+ hour trek both ways - it's tough on Friday working after those Thursday night games.And no - I won't stay home - I'll just moan when I see them on the schedule.Yea, I don't know that I'm a big fan of the Thursday night game every week either. I know ESPN can't be happy with that idea. Instead of the default Thursday night college game they'll have to compete with the NFL for ratings.At a minimum I think they should make half of the slated 16 games move to Saturday afternoons in December (when college is done) like they used to do back in the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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