Knight of God Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Man, I don't usually agree with you... but this time I do?!?!?!?LOL!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bama4Life Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Sorry to upset some fans but after watching highlights reels of both these players A.J Green has spectacular body leverage. That being said Julio does not win that category.That's your opinion. Fact is Julio is better. FACT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarterback Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I would have been thrilled with either, but I think Jones is a better fit for the Falcons physical demands of their receivers.Another thought. For those who think that Roddy White was one of the top 2-3 receivers in the NFL last season, between the two, Green and Jones, whom do you feel more resembles Roddy White?I think without question this is Julio Jones. He looks like a taller and slightly larger version of White with even more speed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestufford Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Lets face it, had the Bengals dealt with us, AJ Green would most likely be a Falcon. I think he will be more a Randy Moss receiver... time will tell, but we could have just gotten the better end of the deal with Jones because I too feel he is the best fit for our system with his toughness and blocking ability. I look forward to seeing both of them on the field this season. Go Falcons! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 (edited) For those who think that Roddy White was one of the top 2-3 receivers in the NFL last season, between the two, Green and Jones, whom do you feel more resembles Roddy White? I think without question this is Julio Jones. He looks like a taller and slightly larger version of White with even more speed!I've always seen Roddy White as a smaller version of Terrell Owens or Andre Johnson. I see Julio Jones as a larger and faster version of Roddy White, which essentially translates to a slightly faster Andre Johnson.Regardless , if he can live up to either of those three names, we're going to wreck the NFL. Edited June 22, 2011 by Radical 2.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcoholic2010 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 IMHO thrre no doubt they are both great but there body of work has taking a quantum leapafter they draft jj went to a team that ranks at the top the nfc green went to a weak team with a sorry FO and coaching staff IMO an mind you they got QB issues. So the NFL leverage go to our rookie. GO JULIO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM12 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 They are both crazy crazy talents. Amazingly they both have a great work ethic. If I was more worried about who won't deal with the money:i'd say Green.Adjusting to the physicality of the next level: i'd say Green.Who will have the better season: Jones, no doubt (unless Dalton is the next, erm, Matty ICE)Who has the better chance to suceed on the team: Jones (bengals need to run it a lot this year, has Dalton got the long ball, he is more of a west coast guy right?)That is nitpicking, because I think they are both unbelieveable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isproab Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I still think A.J. is a better pure receiver. Julio may be more physical and block better, but I think as a WR in the passing game he is a step behind A.J.They both have the "potential" to be all world. Think Jerry Rice and Tim Brown. Not saying they will be that talent level, but think about the gap between those two. Jerry is the greatest of all time, but Tim was extremely good and nobody would feel slighted getting a Tim Brown instead of a Jerry Rice. Tim was faster without a doubt, but did not have the type of talent at QB or around him that Jerry did.Yes I would have loved A.J. being that he went to UGA, but I knew Julio was more realistic prior to the combine. The fact that we got him after that amazing workout, I can't complain. I think Roddy's is the perfect guy for Julio to study under. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Comparing the two is similar to comparing Peyton and Brady. Peyton is hands down the better QB and arguably the best all time, yet Brady is the better all around player. Yes obviously they are stuck playing QB and will never line up anywhere but it is obvious Brady is the better football player in this situation. Manning is the more cerebral of the two. Either way, if you had one or the other you would not complain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarterback Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Comparing the two is similar to comparing Peyton and Brady. Peyton is hands down the better QB and arguably the best all time, yet Brady is the better all around player. Yes obviously they are stuck playing QB and will never line up anywhere but it is obvious Brady is the better football player in this situation. Manning is the more cerebral of the two. Either way, if you had one or the other you would not complainI respectfully disagree.Tom Brady is the best all around QB to ever play the game, and had his team been able to overcome the Giant to conclude a perfect season you would have one of only three (Bradshaw and Montana being the other two) QB's to have a perfect Super Bowl 4-0 record coupled with a 17-0 season. This despite New England defenses that aren't in the same conversation as that of the Steelers and the 49er's. Those defenses were the best in the game during their Super Bowl wins.Ton Brady was the primary reason for his offense's success...quick, name the receivers and running backs that played in New England's three Super Bowl victories? I can easily remember Franco Harris, Rocky Bleier, Lynn Swann and John Stallworth for the Steelers, or Roger Craig, Jerry Rice and Dwight Clark for the 49ers!I see Manning as a stat monster more than a championship QB, but certainly he is in the top 5-10 QB's of all time.My all time top 20 QB's (modern era and excluding names like Layne, Graham, Luckman, Tittle, etc):BradyMontanaStaubachUnitasStarrElwayBradshawAikmanManningYoungKellyMarinoDawsonWarnerGrieseFarveTarkentonStablerMoonRoethlisberger(Brees and Rodgers--and likely Matt Ryan--will be high on this list but I was focusing on a greater body of work). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I respectfully disagree.Tom Brady is the best all around QB to ever play the game, and had his team been able to overcome the Giant to conclude a perfect season you would have one of only three (Bradshaw and Montana being the other two) QB's to have a perfect Super Bowl 4-0 record coupled with a 17-0 season. This despite New England defenses that aren't in the same conversation as that of the Steelers and the 49er's. Those defenses were the best in the game during their Super Bowl wins.Ton Brady was the primary reason for his offense's success...quick, name the receivers and running backs that played in New England's three Super Bowl victories? I can easily remember Franco Harris, Rocky Bleier, Lynn Swann and John Stallworth for the Steelers, or Roger Craig, Jerry Rice and Dwight Clark for the 49ers!I see Manning as a stat monster more than a championship QB, but certainly he is in the top 5-10 QB's of all time.My all time top 20 QB's (modern era and excluding names like Layne, Graham, Luckman, Tittle, etc):BradyMontanaStaubachUnitasStarrElwayBradshawAikmanManningYoungKellyMarinoDawsonWarnerGrieseFarveTarkentonStablerMoonRoethlisberger(Brees and Rodgers--and likely Matt Ryan--will be high on this list but I was focusing on a greater body of work).I'd disagree. I think the reason Brady won SB's is because of the all around package he has (which is what you are saying) but I think Peyton is the more ideal pure QB. Tom has a killer instinct that is found in other positions (moreso defensive players). Peyton not so much. That is why when they played each other, Brady normally won. Manning is out to win. Brady is out to kill. If you took SBs away and put them on level playing fields, Manning would be the choice for a QB. Plus, the Colts never invested in a defense which was the dumbest thing of all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WFColonel56 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 oh god, not another Payton/ Brady talk........It has been the death to many a thread across the world wide web Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markdzul Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Unless you've been at practice to watch both players then you have no idea what you're talking about and you're talking out of your ***.Well excuse the heck out of me... i guess every NFL expert associated with ESPN and NFL network are talking out of their a**es also.... Do some research on your own and you will come to the same conclusion a**clown.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconwannabe Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Nice to see you again Ray Charles.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: now that was funny.. he needs to watch more tape on Green, Love our receiver but lets dont get stupid with it either.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENERALZOD Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 (edited) I've always seen Roddy White as a smaller version of Terrell Owens or Andre Johnson. I see Julio Jones as a larger and faster version of Roddy White, which essentially translates to a slightly faster Andre Johnson.Regardless , if he can live up to either of those three names, we're going to wreck the NFL.+1 I couldn't agree more, with the exception of saying - " a younger more capable T.O." in that comment. Excellent comparison BTW. I'll probably get flamed for saying this, but the way I see it if you were to rank the top current 3 WR's in the NFL right now, it would be #1 Andre Johnson #2 Larry Fitzgerald #3 Roddy White. That being said, I think you could make a serious case to put Roddy at #1 or #2 based on the numbers alone from last season. I can't remember the count, but I do remember the commentators speaking of Roddy not dropping a catch for several games/passes last year, at the time he was leading the league if I remember correctly. It might have been a new record in that category? Anybody know the answer to that? Sorry, I can't remember so I thought I would ask. :unsure: Stats post more than likely in 3...2..1.... Edited June 22, 2011 by GAFALCONFAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconwannabe Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 My opinion is that all rookies do not have the desire to be great or the best at their position. I base this on their actions not words. How many rookies have been drafted and took the money and lost focus. The desire by most players are to make the NFL and get the huge payday. The great players play for more than money. This is just my opinion. I think we made the right decision based on the history of Julio and the gamer he has proven to be in the SEC.We only made this decision because Green was not there. He has the faster top end speed ans would stretch the field better. If Jones would have went first we would be talking about Green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconwannabe Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 That's your opinion. Fact is Julio is better. FACT! :wacko: If that were true he would have been the number one receiver in the league. Lets dont be a homer.. All the guys that do this for a living had Green number one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Flight Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I don't see anything special in Green personallyme either...someone please show me something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WFColonel56 Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 me either...someone please show me somethinghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z65lhStb2Mneed any moreIm more of a JJ fan but Green is lights out my man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 You guys are insanely out of your mind if you don't think Green was worthy of the #4 pick. He could have went #1 if Cam wasn't in the draft. The kid is Moss without the drama. Pure WR with insane hands. What more do you want? Julio sacrifices a tiny bit of hands for toughness. T.O. style. Nobody is going to want to jam Julio and if you don't he will run by/over you. We got Julio and I am ecstatic. But don't be such a blind homer and say Green wasn't rightfully the higher rated WR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WFColonel56 Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 You guys are insanely out of your mind if you don't think Green was worthy of the #4 pick. He could have went #1 if Cam wasn't in the draft. The kid is Moss without the drama. Pure WR with insane hands. What more do you want? Julio sacrifices a tiny bit of hands for toughness. T.O. style. Nobody is going to want to jam Julio and if you don't he will run by/over you. We got Julio and I am ecstatic. But don't be such a blind homer and say Green wasn't rightfully the higher rated WRi dnt agree with the bold...lol but im cool with everything else, but i do see Green and JJ as equals. Both of them has things that the other one doesnt, when you work it out they all balance out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 AJ was worth every bit of his draft status IMO, I just really REALLY like Jones better.Its a known fact that I spent way more time saying that I wanted someone like Jones (like Little) than anyone like AJ. I just love that smashmouth style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ransack Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Well excuse the heck out of me... i guess every NFL expert associated with ESPN and NFL network are talking out of their a**es also.... Do some research on your own and you will come to the same conclusion a**clown....When are the ESPN and NFL TV guys NOT talking out of their *****? Seriously you have no clue so find a new argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 The kid is Moss without the drama.Maybe if he ran a sub 4.30 40, then you could say he's almost Randy Moss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaMeatTroughsEgo Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Maybe if he ran a sub 4.30 40, then you could say he's almost Randy Moss.This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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