freebird310 Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 By Pat YasinkasFinal Eight Plan shouldn't limit FalconsIf you’re worried about the Final Eight Plan limiting what the Atlanta Falcons can do in free agency, stop it. The plan was a one-time thing, instituted in 2010’s uncapped year. It impacted the New Orleans Saints, who won the Super Bowl the season before. As part of the rule, teams were allowed to sign only the number of unrestricted free agents that they lost to other teams and there were some salary guidelines that further restricted teams that at least made it to the divisional round of the playoffs after the 2009 season. The Falcons lost in the divisional round last season. But all indications from both sides are that the plan won’t be used in any new collective bargaining agreement between the owners and players. That’s good news for the Falcons because they’re unlikely to lose any big-name free agents. They’re expected to bring back veteran linebacker Mike Peterson, but are likely to let veteran receiver Brian Finneran and cornerback Brian Williams sign elsewhere. Offensive linemen Harvey Dahl and Tyson Clabo have five accrued seasons and are not under contract for this year. But their status will be determined by a new deal and we don’t know if that will require four or five seasons for players to reach unrestricted free agency. Without the limitations of the final eight plan, the Falcons will be free to pursue as many free agents as they want. The team already has shown a “win-now’’ mentality by trading up to draft receiver Julio Jones. I expect that trend to continue once free agency starts and the Falcons are likely to make adding a pass-rushing defensive end their top priority. There also have been suggestions the Falcons could pursue Oakland cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha and a tight end to pair with veteran Tony Gonzalez. I’m not sure the Falcons would invest huge money in Asomugha, one year after breaking the bank for Dunta Robinson. But owner Arthur Blank, coach Mike Smith and general manager Thomas Dimitroff, so far, have made it clear they think this team is on the cusp of a Super Bowl, so anything is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHEC Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Would be foolish of TD if he doesn't even try and sign Aso. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebird310 Posted June 20, 2011 Author Share Posted June 20, 2011 Would be foolish of TD if he doesn't even try and sign Aso.I got to agree with you, because I think he could impact our D more than any FA De out there .... his aquisition would lead to more sacks ........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandy Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Would be foolish of TD if he doesn't even try and sign Aso.It's unlikely we'll even know if they do try unless they manage to snag him. They are usually very quiet about who they pursue - and we hear about it much later when someone mentions they pursued "so-and-so" but were unable to seal the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 It's unlikely we'll even know if they do try unless they manage to snag him. They are usually very quiet about who they pursue - and we hear about it much later when someone mentions they pursued "so-and-so" but were unable to seal the deal.there are so many teams that will be pursuing Aso.DallasPhiladelphiaHoustonBaltimoreMatt Ryan makes like $12 million/season. Nnamdi Asomugha is likely to get $17 million/year for 5 years and will be 30yrs old at start of season. As much as I love Nnamdi, I just don't know if he would be worth the money on the back-end of the contract. Given the teams going after Nnamdi, the bidding could get ridiculous.I don't see it. I think Falcons will go for Charles Johnson and few other "role-type" starters/reserves.That is how I see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandy Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 there are so many teams that will be pursuing Aso.DallasPhiladelphiaHoustonBaltimoreMatt Ryan makes like $12 million/season. Nnamdi Asomugha is likely to get $17 million/year for 5 years and will be 30yrs old at start of season. As much as I love Nnamdi, I just don't know if he would be worth the money on the back-end of the contract. Given the teams going after Nnamdi, the bidding could get ridiculous.I don't see it. I think Falcons will go for Charles Johnson and few other "role-type" starters/reserves.That is how I see it.I would not complain if we landed CJ, Osi or Edwards - not one bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 A sleeper TE is Dante Rosario... I have no idea why the Panthers dont use this guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zodiac Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 there are so many teams that will be pursuing Aso.DallasPhiladelphiaHoustonBaltimoreMatt Ryan makes like $12 million/season. Nnamdi Asomugha is likely to get $17 million/year for 5 years and will be 30yrs old at start of season. As much as I love Nnamdi, I just don't know if he would be worth the money on the back-end of the contract. Given the teams going after Nnamdi, the bidding could get ridiculous.I don't see it. I think Falcons will go for Charles Johnson and few other "role-type" starters/reserves.That is how I see it.Are you crazy? Baltimore drafted a CB in the 1st, and def don't have the money after they tagged Ngata. Philly wont have the money if they want to keep Vick who will probably want upwards of 15M a year.Dallas, maybe im not so sure of there cap situation, and houston has the best shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Are you crazy? Baltimore drafted a CB in the 1st, and def don't have the money after they tagged Ngata. Philly wont have the money if they want to keep Vick who will probably want upwards of 15M a year.Dallas, maybe im not so sure of there cap situation, and houston has the best shot.All 3 of the teams have the money... I dont think the ravens will get him but their head coach did say they are discussing it.The Cowboys could do it.. Guys like Terrence Newman and Barber are making a lot of money in base salaries... If they signed Aso.. They would cut Newman.I dont know how Philly does it but they are always in great cap shape... I think theyb front load their contracts.... They are in good cap shape... especially when they trade KolbAlso Peter King and other experts are hearing they are the 3 teams really looking at Aso hard.... Probably the redskins also but Aso most likely want to go to a winner.I just cant see us going after Aso... I see us calling but dude is going to get over 12 mil a year... We need a DE and we have a boatload of players to resign (Grimes, Lofton, Decoud, Biermann, Abe, and HD will be FA next year so thats not even including our FA we will resign this year) .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zodiac Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 All 3 of the teams have the money... I dont think the ravens will get him but their head coach did say they are discussing it.The Cowboys could do it.. Guys like Terrence Newman and Barber are making a lot of money in base salaries... If they signed Aso.. They would cut Newman.I dont know how Philly does it but they are always in great cap shape... I think theyb front load their contracts.... They are in good cap shape... especially when they trade KolbAlso Peter King and other experts are hearing they are the 3 teams really looking at Aso hard.... Probably the redskins also but Aso most likely want to go to a winner.I just cant see us going after Aso... I see us calling but dude is going to get over 12 mil a year... We need a DE and we have a boatload of players to resign (Grimes, Lofton, Decoud, Biermann, Abe, and HD will be FA next year so thats not even including our FA we will resign this year) ....Still I think Philly has Desean's contract coming up soon, and right now they got Vick's I have no idea how they have the space to get him.Dallas is understandable, but im not sure if Aso would want to go their as there secondary is pretty weak, and well they finished like 5-11 last season. Baltimore drafted a CB along with already have Josh Wilson, i think Flacco's contract is coming up soon as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Still I think Philly has Desean's contract coming up soon, and right now they got Vick's I have no idea how they have the space to get him.Dallas is understandable, but im not sure if Aso would want to go their as there secondary is pretty weak, and well they finished like 5-11 last season. Baltimore drafted a CB along with already have Josh Wilson, i think Flacco's contract is coming up soon as well.I get what you are saying but all 3 teams have the money... All 3 are looking at him (its been reported) ... Its different ways to work that cap (giving more signing bonus)Also everybody knows the Cowboys is not a bad team... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHEC Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 CJ will be a big mistake imo, I don't see him making much of a impact in the sacks standpoint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 It's unlikely we'll even know if they do try unless they manage to snag him. They are usually very quiet about who they pursue - and we hear about it much later when someone mentions they pursued "so-and-so" but were unable to seal the deal.True but everyone and their mom heard about us wanting Dunte last year.Just like is is WIDELY assumed that that Edwards is all but a lock to be a falcon.The thing that makes me think that we are going to be uber aggressive in FA is the fact TD mentioned over and over about getting impact players, He mentioned several times the need to get a Troy Polamalu type player..... and Aso is the only one that fits that bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHEC Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 True but everyone and their mom heard about us wanting Dunte last year.Just like is is WIDELY assumed that that Edwards is all but a lock to be a falcon.The thing that makes me think that we are going to be uber aggressive in FA is the fact TD mentioned over and over about getting impact players, He mentioned several times the need to get a Troy Polamalu type player..... and Aso is the only one that fits that bill.If we can walk away with Aso, Ray, resigned Clabo and even Nic or Dahl, that would be a great offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Still I think Philly has Desean's contract coming up soon, and right now they got Vick's I have no idea how they have the space to get him.Dallas is understandable, but im not sure if Aso would want to go their as there secondary is pretty weak, and well they finished like 5-11 last season. Baltimore drafted a CB along with already have Josh Wilson, i think Flacco's contract is coming up soon as well.yeah Zodiac - i'm not "crazy" - my list came from Peter King/CNNSI MMQB. I would not have thought of Baltimore as a landing spot myself given the drafting of the 1st round corner - but it is logical as the Ravens don't have much else at the corner position.Eagles are said to be "going-for-it" and the GM has already publicly stated they are going to be "very aggressive" in free agency - corner is the Eagles #1 need and Eagles are in great cap shape.Cowboys "passed" on drafting Prince Amukara at #8 overall when corner was their #1 need - put 2+2 together there yourself.Houston was 31st ranked pass defense - 'nuff said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceFalcon Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 We need to find out what the cap numbers are looking like after the new CBA is signed.Once its signed we will have a way better guess at who it is going to be based off of cap numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 If we can walk away with Aso, Ray, resigned Clabo and even Nic or Dahl, that would be a great offseason.Yeah I would say so.I think you will see us sign 3-4 "big names"A End,Corner,and TE I think will be the 3 positions added via FA, assuming we resign Snelling, Clabo and Nicholas.I would be perfectly happy with Edwards,Zach Miller, and a corner like Joeseph or Richard Marshal from Carolina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE-Falconlifer Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Would be foolish of TD if he doesn't even try and sign Aso.I gotta think, almost guarantee - we will sign Aso. The DE field is suspect to say the least, and if we mortgaged the future on Julio- there HAS to be some type of plan to improve the defense. That we are at least sound at LB- DE is not sure fire enough to bank on Edwards or any other of the limited one hit / hurt wonders...leaving no other option but to solidify our pass rush with pass protection- we have come WAY to far not to be prepared. Blank/TD/Smith would NOT have made the Julio move without something this solid in the plans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 there are so many teams that will be pursuing Aso.DallasPhiladelphiaHoustonBaltimoreMatt Ryan makes like $12 million/season. Nnamdi Asomugha is likely to get $17 million/year for 5 years and will be 30yrs old at start of season. As much as I love Nnamdi, I just don't know if he would be worth the money on the back-end of the contract. Given the teams going after Nnamdi, the bidding could get ridiculous.I don't see it. I think Falcons will go for Charles Johnson and few other "role-type" starters/reserves.That is how I see it.Like the above..Charles Johnson and Eric Weedle from the Chargers and call it a day..Having interest and breaking the bank for Aso are 2 different things I really think its a bnidding war situation for him now are we willing to sacrifice with about 3-4 guys that need to be resigned I'm not so sure because for that money between 15-17 mill per we probably could resign Clabo Grimes at the least for Aso type money.I realise its a sexy pick but I'm sorry there are some key guys that we need to resign before contemplating a movelike this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zodiac Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 CJ will be a big mistake imo, I don't see him making much of a impact in the sacks standpoint.dude had 10 and was playing across from nobody, he will dominate across from Abe and next to Babs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHEC Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 dude had 10 and was playing across from nobody, he will dominate across from Abe and next to Babs.Maybe if he had more then 1 10+ sacks, that would be a different story. For all we know he could just be another Chauncey Davis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Maybe if he had more then 1 10+ sacks, that would be a different story. For all we know he could just be another Chauncey Davis.Chauncey Davis has 10 sacks........in six years.Bad comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHEC Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 (edited) Chauncey Davis has 10 sacks........in seven years.Bad comparison.I am aware that Davis only had 10 sacks his whole career, but what if CJ comes here and does nothing just like Davis? Why risk it on a 1 yr wonder? Edited June 20, 2011 by Skar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zodiac Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 (edited) I am aware that Davis only had 10 sacks his whole career, but what if CJ comes here and does nothing just like Davis? Why risk it on a 1 yr wonder?you do realize he had 6 sacks his rookie year? Edited June 20, 2011 by Zodiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 I am aware that Davis only had 10 sacks his whole career, but what if CJ comes here and does nothing just like Davis? Why risk it on a 1 yr wonder?You take tremendous risk when you sign any FA. I don't know if CJ is a great idea or not, but I'm pretty confident that he would be a much better player than Chauncey Davis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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