Shotty Ice Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Tied with Cards for wild card and D-Backs are 1 GBWait WhereTF did the D-Backs come from? I thought they were one of the worst teams in baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K26dp Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 This aggressive approach that Parrish and Gonzalez have put into place doesn't seem to be working. I'm not saying the aggressive approach is a bad thing, but it's just not working with our group of hitters.Any dumb thing in baseball seems to be excused with "at least he was aggressive". Thrown out trying to stretch a double into a triple? Caught stealing? Swinging at pitches out of the strike zone? Bunting with a real hitter?Hey, as long as you "stay aggressive" it's OK.It's a basic game. When you're on offense, you don't want to get out. A team only gets 27 outs a game to score runs. If being "aggressive" costs your team more outs than it does score runs, then your hitters are just being dumb.In summary:Smart: taking pitches out of the strike zone for ballsDumb: swinging at pitches out the strike zoneSmart: Taking the extra base when the baserunner is certain to be able to get thereDumb: Going for the extra base and hoping that the defense bobbles itSmart: Not giving away precious outs just to advance a runner 90 feet unless a truly awful hitter is at the plate (like a pitcher)Dumb: Using a hitter that could actually do something productive with a plate appearance (defined as "anything other than getting out") and forcing him to sacrifice bunt ("getting out"). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdogg Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Any dumb thing in baseball seems to be excused with "at least he was aggressive". Thrown out trying to stretch a double into a triple? Caught stealing? Swinging at pitches out of the strike zone? Bunting with a real hitter?Hey, as long as you "stay aggressive" it's OK.It's a basic game. When you're on offense, you don't want to get out. A team only gets 27 outs a game to score runs. If being "aggressive" costs your team more outs than it does score runs, then your hitters are just being dumb.In summary:Smart: taking pitches out of the strike zone for ballsDumb: swinging at pitches out the strike zoneSmart: Taking the extra base when the baserunner is certain to be able to get thereDumb: Going for the extra base and hoping that the defense bobbles itSmart: Not giving away precious outs just to advance a runner 90 feet unless a truly awful hitter is at the plate (like a pitcher)Dumb: Using a hitter that could actually do something productive with a plate appearance (defined as "anything other than getting out") and forcing him to sacrifice bunt ("getting out").Well said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotty Ice Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Any dumb thing in baseball seems to be excused with "at least he was aggressive". Thrown out trying to stretch a double into a triple? Caught stealing? Swinging at pitches out of the strike zone? Bunting with a real hitter?Hey, as long as you "stay aggressive" it's OK.It's a basic game. When you're on offense, you don't want to get out. A team only gets 27 outs a game to score runs. If being "aggressive" costs your team more outs than it does score runs, then your hitters are just being dumb.In summary:Smart: taking pitches out of the strike zone for ballsDumb: swinging at pitches out the strike zoneSmart: Taking the extra base when the baserunner is certain to be able to get thereDumb: Going for the extra base and hoping that the defense bobbles itSmart: Not giving away precious outs just to advance a runner 90 feet unless a truly awful hitter is at the plate (like a pitcher)Dumb: Using a hitter that could actually do something productive with a plate appearance (defined as "anything other than getting out") and forcing him to sacrifice bunt ("getting out").Awesome post but the only thing I would take issue with is taking the extra base only when the baserunner is certain to be able to get there. In my opinion if you THINK you can make it then you go for it. There's no way to be certain. If the dude laser beams a Nelson Cruz-like throw and guns you down there is nothing you can do but tip your cap, but what are the chances he makes a [Tomei] Dead on balls [/Tomei] accurate throw like that? The way I see it, in the most basic of equations, you've got a 50/50 shot seeing as how the only two options you've got in trying to stretch something is being out or being safe.If you're Brian McCann you obviously settle for the double. If you're someone like Jose Reyes though, you gotta have 3-bag vision up at all times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don™ Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Beachy and McLouth playing w/ Gwinnett tonight. No surprise to see McLouth in LF. Beachy will throw 80-90 pitches. Fredi Gonzalez is willing to try any lineup to score more runs, said he's considering batting pitcher 8th when McLouth returns Looks like Schafer may stay in CF when McLouth returns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don™ Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 I hate Reyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Dog Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Well this mofo is over. This team is just sadAt least I can focus on school work now. Have a good one fellas. Throw up the dueces Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cable Guy Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Good job by Minor by keeping his composure and allowing no runs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cable Guy Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Nate's first AB is a RBI single Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cable Guy Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Will we see a double steal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don™ Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Will we see a double steal?Close enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don™ Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Come on....At least one more run here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Dog Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 You can all thank me for my anger getting Minor out of thatI might drink a beer now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdogg Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Wow! Braves score 1st? Stars must have lined up just right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdogg Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 About a foot high of the strike zone StrUggla. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don™ Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 About a foot high of the strike zone StrUggla.You could tell he made up his mind to swing no matter what Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdogg Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Just great. Now Hanson is hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdogg Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Just when Hanson was really starting to look good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K26dp Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Just great. Now Hanson is hurt.From Mark Bowman: Hanson has been scratched from Friday start due to right-shoulder tendinitis, Randall Delgado to start tomorrow vs. Texas.I've wondered all season if something was up with Hanson. Hopefully he'll be back soon, but I admit to being eager for a look at Delgado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdogg Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Delgado to make it to the show. Kinda surprising it wasn't Teheran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don™ Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Delgado to make it to the show. Kinda surprising it wasn't Teheran.He pitched last night...7 innings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotty Ice Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 It is absolutely ******* ******** how good Jose Reyes is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don™ Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 That is ridiculous.The hel* was Gonzalez doing?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdogg Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 For the love of God...figure out how to stop Reyes. No sense in letting 1 man beat you every AB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbravesfalcs7 Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 It is absolutely ******* ******** how good Jose Reyes is.Good? That was pure luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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