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HBO: Game of Thrones

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I haven't started reading the books yet, but this clearly has to be an error by whoever HBO got to write their synopsis for last night's episode.

In the courtyard at Winterfell, Theon addresses the castle's residents, offering a grotesque message of what happens to those who defy him: the charred remains of the Stark boys. Maester Luwin lets out a bereaved howl, as even Theon is disgusted by what he's done.

http://www.hbo.com/#...r/synopsis.html

I never for a second that those 2 charred bodies were Bran and Rickon.. I thought it was clearly supposed to be those 2 orphans that Bran sent to live on that farm last week. We even saw them run into the farm house toward the middle of the episode before Theon sent Maester Luwin back to Winterfell.

I do hope somebody stops Theon from committing anymore atrocities in Winterfell's courtyard soon though.dry.png

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I haven't started reading the books yet, but this clearly has to be an error by whoever HBO got to write their synopsis for last night's episode.

I never for a second that those 2 charred bodies were Bran and Rickon.. I thought it was clearly supposed to be those 2 orphans that Bran sent to live on that farm last week. We even saw them run into the farm house toward the middle of the episode before Theon sent Maester Luwin back to Winterfell.

I do hope somebody stops Theon from committing anymore atrocities in Winterfell's courtyard soon though.dry.png

It isn't nearly so obvious in the books

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Taking a big chance just coming into this thread.

Everyone here is respectful of the non-readers and puts things from the books in spoiler tags. The only real danger you run is missing an episode and coming in here.

Well, almost everyone here is respectful. Captain ****-****-Fart-opotomus out in California thought he would be cool and drop the spoiler to end all spoilers in here.

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Everyone here is respectful of the non-readers and puts things from the books in spoiler tags. The only real danger you run is missing an episode and coming in here.

Well, almost everyone here is respectful. Captain ****-****-Fart-opotomus out in California thought he would be cool and drop the spoiler to end all spoilers in here.

dumbledor dies? F*CK

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Everyone here is respectful of the non-readers and puts things from the books in spoiler tags. The only real danger you run is missing an episode and coming in here.

Well, almost everyone here is respectful. Captain ****-****-Fart-opotomus out in California thought he would be cool and drop the spoiler to end all spoilers in here.

The books are full of holy $hit moments and despite the best of intentions, accidents will happen.

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I'm going to be really, really, really disappointed if Dagmer Cleftjaw

ends up being Ramsay Snow. At first I thought it was stupid that people were coming to that conclusion, but the more I see of him the more the thought kinda starts creeping into my head too. Ramsay Snow's reveal in the book is in my opinion the biggest WTF moment in the entire series, and it's going to make absolutely zero sense if Dagmer ends up revealing himself as Ramsay, but he's taking all of Reek's lines and moments of being the devil on Theon's shoulder.

Not to mention the fact that Dagmer looks way too old and it wouldn't make any sense for him to have been on Pyke in the first place.

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Cappy doesn't post in this thread so this should be safe...

You made it way too easy.

A Sprite brain freeze will make ya say the darndest things!

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It's pretty amazing to think how successful the show has become. I doubt that even HBO believed that an epic fantasy series would appeal to such a wide audience. They're killing it in the Sunday 10:00PM ratings, and actually just cable ratings in general.. regardless of day/time. But when you factor in all the replays and pirating, the numbers are just crazy.

‘Game of Thrones’ again crowned cable ratings lord over ‘Mad Men,’ ‘Real Housewives’

Fantasy drama drew 3.7 million viewers and won the most 18- to 49-year-old viewers as well

HBO's "Game of Thrones" delivered its weekly smackdown to everything else on cable TV Sunday night.

The complex drama about a fantasy kingdom, which has not shied from ultra-violence this season, drew about 3.7 million viewers.

That topped everything else in sight on cable, including "SpongeBob Squarepants" (3 million) and the Disney movie "Good Luck Charlie" (3.6 million).

"Game of Thrones" also far outdistanced every other cable show among the advertiser-coveted 18- to 49-year-olds. The only show that came close was "Break," which follows "Thrones" on HBO.

Audiences for other Sunday night cable shows, which were competing with finales of "Desperate Housewives" and "Survivor" on broadcast networks, included 2.27 million for Lifetime's "The Client List," 2.26 million for Bravo's "Real Housewives of New Jersey and 2.13 million for AMC's "Mad Men."

Cable shows often add several million viewers with repeat showings and time-shifting.

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Game Of Thrones Tops 2012 Piracy Charts, Copyright Wars Continue

The second season of Game of Thrones is on track to be 2012's most pirated television show with more than 25 million downloads for the first six episodes since the series' debut on April 1. The show hit its highpoint after episode 5, "The Ghosts of Harrenhal," was downloaded more than 2.5 million times in a single day, according to Forbes citing numbers from media monitoring firm Big Champagne.

It's not clear if you can legitimately count each download as a single viewer, but consider this: the season finale for Game of Thrones Season One had just 3 million viewers, according to Entertainment Weekly. So in a single day, a mid-season episode from season two gained almost as much attention from pirates, as the show's first season finale did from paying subscribers.

This is just the latest sign of the ever widening gap between the desire of content producers to protect their content with digital rights management (DRM) and the desire of audiences to consume content on their terms and for free. This has prompted a seemingly never ending battle between pirates and Hollywood. Recent skirmishes include the addition of more unskippable piracy warnings on DVD and Blu-ray discs, while some Internet service providers block their customers from accessing torrent-related sites – namely ThePirateBay. There are even reports that a new service called Pirate Pay wants to resurrect the idea of using technical means to disrupt and shut down popular BitTorrent swarms, according to Torrent Freak.

Stop the Madness

It's no surprise that popular shows from specialty channels such as HBO and Showtime consistently top piracy charts. Showtime's Dexter Season Six and Game of Thrones Season One, for example, were the two most-pirated shows of 2011, Torrent Freak said in a separate report.

Not only do you need a cable television subscription to view these shows when they debut, but high-profile series from HBO and Showtime rarely see digital distribution soon after their initial broadcasts. Some HBO subscribers can use the HBO Go service to view their favorite shows online, but non-subscribers are left out in the cold waiting for shows to land on Amazon on Demand, Hulu, iTunes, Netflix, or DVD and Blu-ray.

That leaves two choices: wait for the disc and digital release (more than seven months later, Dexter fans are still waiting for season six or choose piracy. Millions of people, it seems, are choosing the latter.

Competing With Free

So the solution is clear, right? Soon after their broadcast debuts release shows like Game of Thrones on Amazon and iTunes and all those pirates will disappear with the wildlings behind the Wall. Well, not necessarily.

AMC sells the latest season of Mad Men on iTunes allowing you to download episodes the day after initial broadcast. And yet, Sunday's episode of Mad Men still made the Pirate Bay's top 200 torrents list on Monday morning.

Chalk it up to impatience, a distaste for pre-roll video ads, the need to have DRM-free material, or international audiences that can't access the content any other way, but it's clear digital availability doesn't kill piracy. Even the recent trend of comedians such as Aziz Ansari, Louis C.K. and Jim Gaffigan releasing DRM-free comedy specials for the rock-bottom price of $5 hasn't stopped all pirating of their content.

The alternative, however, is for content creators to lock down their content, wage war against viewers, and cling to still lucrative but antiquated contracts with national cable providers.

It may not be time yet for content creators to embrace the future and go digital, but have no doubt: broadcast television's summertime youth is over and winter is coming.

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It's pretty amazing to think how successful the show has become. I doubt that even HBO believed that an epic fantasy series would appeal to such a wide audience. They're killing it in the Sunday 10:00PM ratings, and actually just cable ratings in general.. regardless of day/time. But when you factor in all the replays and pirating, the numbers are just crazy.

‘Game of Thrones’ again crowned cable ratings lord over ‘Mad Men,’ ‘Real Housewives’

Fantasy drama drew 3.7 million viewers and won the most 18- to 49-year-old viewers as well

HBO's "Game of Thrones" delivered its weekly smackdown to everything else on cable TV Sunday night.

The complex drama about a fantasy kingdom, which has not shied from ultra-violence this season, drew about 3.7 million viewers.

That topped everything else in sight on cable, including "SpongeBob Squarepants" (3 million) and the Disney movie "Good Luck Charlie" (3.6 million).

"Game of Thrones" also far outdistanced every other cable show among the advertiser-coveted 18- to 49-year-olds. The only show that came close was "Break," which follows "Thrones" on HBO.

Audiences for other Sunday night cable shows, which were competing with finales of "Desperate Housewives" and "Survivor" on broadcast networks, included 2.27 million for Lifetime's "The Client List," 2.26 million for Bravo's "Real Housewives of New Jersey and 2.13 million for AMC's "Mad Men."

Cable shows often add several million viewers with repeat showings and time-shifting.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Game Of Thrones Tops 2012 Piracy Charts, Copyright Wars Continue

The second season of Game of Thrones is on track to be 2012's most pirated television show with more than 25 million downloads for the first six episodes since the series' debut on April 1. The show hit its highpoint after episode 5, "The Ghosts of Harrenhal," was downloaded more than 2.5 million times in a single day, according to Forbes citing numbers from media monitoring firm Big Champagne.

It's not clear if you can legitimately count each download as a single viewer, but consider this: the season finale for Game of Thrones Season One had just 3 million viewers, according to Entertainment Weekly. So in a single day, a mid-season episode from season two gained almost as much attention from pirates, as the show's first season finale did from paying subscribers.

This is just the latest sign of the ever widening gap between the desire of content producers to protect their content with digital rights management (DRM) and the desire of audiences to consume content on their terms and for free. This has prompted a seemingly never ending battle between pirates and Hollywood. Recent skirmishes include the addition of more unskippable piracy warnings on DVD and Blu-ray discs, while some Internet service providers block their customers from accessing torrent-related sites – namely ThePirateBay. There are even reports that a new service called Pirate Pay wants to resurrect the idea of using technical means to disrupt and shut down popular BitTorrent swarms, according to Torrent Freak.

Stop the Madness

It's no surprise that popular shows from specialty channels such as HBO and Showtime consistently top piracy charts. Showtime's Dexter Season Six and Game of Thrones Season One, for example, were the two most-pirated shows of 2011, Torrent Freak said in a separate report.

Not only do you need a cable television subscription to view these shows when they debut, but high-profile series from HBO and Showtime rarely see digital distribution soon after their initial broadcasts. Some HBO subscribers can use the HBO Go service to view their favorite shows online, but non-subscribers are left out in the cold waiting for shows to land on Amazon on Demand, Hulu, iTunes, Netflix, or DVD and Blu-ray.

That leaves two choices: wait for the disc and digital release (more than seven months later, Dexter fans are still waiting for season six or choose piracy. Millions of people, it seems, are choosing the latter.

Competing With Free

So the solution is clear, right? Soon after their broadcast debuts release shows like Game of Thrones on Amazon and iTunes and all those pirates will disappear with the wildlings behind the Wall. Well, not necessarily.

AMC sells the latest season of Mad Men on iTunes allowing you to download episodes the day after initial broadcast. And yet, Sunday's episode of Mad Men still made the Pirate Bay's top 200 torrents list on Monday morning.

Chalk it up to impatience, a distaste for pre-roll video ads, the need to have DRM-free material, or international audiences that can't access the content any other way, but it's clear digital availability doesn't kill piracy. Even the recent trend of comedians such as Aziz Ansari, Louis C.K. and Jim Gaffigan releasing DRM-free comedy specials for the rock-bottom price of $5 hasn't stopped all pirating of their content.

The alternative, however, is for content creators to lock down their content, wage war against viewers, and cling to still lucrative but antiquated contracts with national cable providers.

It may not be time yet for content creators to embrace the future and go digital, but have no doubt: broadcast television's summertime youth is over and winter is coming.

Oddly, I just recently read a news report that said most networks are befuddled at how to gain the all-impotant 18-49 demographic.

In the coming seasons I suspect we will see everything from a "Hunger Games" series to a "World of Warcraft" series by the networks in an attempt to capture this swell, much as we did with the reality genre... Too bad they will all epically fail without HBO's brilliant production...

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