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I think this is an easy one and its Matt Ryan all he done is set most TD passes in a single season for the Falcons and lead the team to its first back to back winning seasons and he's only 33-13 as a starter he's way ahead of Vick and when I say way I mean he's way ahead of where Mike Vick was and I also think he's the better QB now as well and there's only one guy I'd take over Ryan and thats Aaron Rodgers. Besides Mike Vick doesn't have the Want/Drive to want to win that Ryan does. And in week 2 when the Falcons not just beat the Eagles but destroy them I think this subject will be laid to rest. And all I here people saying well he has more heart and drive now well thats great but just wait and see how hard the Falcons play for Arthur Blank and how much they'll want to win that game.

Well thats my "opinion" lets here what you guys think

Matt Ryan vs. Mike Vick who's better?

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Matt Ryan = Best QB for the Falcons.

Mike Vick = Best QB for the Eagles.

Please just let it go. Vick is an ex-Falcon who gave us some thrilling moments. Ryan is our QB now.

You can't compare them fairly because Vick was drafted into the NFL 10 years ago and Ryan 3. Ryan has a lot of maturing and developing to do to reach the level of an 8th year QB (not counting the 2 Vick was out). Vick has natural athletic ability that most football players don't have. Ryan has great leadership, great intangibles and is a straight up winner.

Stop living in the past and trying to always compare them. Ryan is Ryan and Vick is Vick. Neither one of them have done anything to the other to cause either of them harm.

They got along great at the Pro-Bowl. Seems they have learned to move on. Maybe it's time some of our fans learn the same.

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Matt Ryan = Best QB for the Falcons.

Mike Vick = Best QB for the Eagles.

Please just let it go. Vick is an ex-Falcon who gave us some thrilling moments. Ryan is our QB now.

You can't compare them fairly because Vick was drafted into the NFL 10 years ago and Ryan 3. Ryan has a lot of maturing and developing to do to reach the level of an 8th year QB (not counting the 2 Vick was out). Vick has natural athletic ability that most football players don't have. Ryan has great leadership, great intangibles and is a straight up winner.

Stop living in the past and trying to always compare them. Ryan is Ryan and Vick is Vick. Neither one of them have done anything to the other to cause either of them harm.

They got along great at the Pro-Bowl. Seems they have learned to move on. Maybe it's time some of our fans learn the same.

_+1 for truth

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Look here folks:

Mike Vick: Matt Ryan:

Games 12 16

Attempts 372 571

Completions 233 375

Percent 62.6 62.5

Att/G 31.0 35.7

Yards 3018 3705

YPA 8.1 6.5

Yards/G 251.5 231.6

TD 21 28

TD/G 1.75 1.75

INT 6 9

LONG 91T 46 (lol)

20+ 48 32

40+ 12 6

Rate 100.2 91

Folks, they are pretty much equally accurate (MV7 has a slight edge), but unlike Captain Checkdown, MV7 makes impact plays: more YPA, and many more large gains (despite playing in 25% less games)

And this isn't even taking into account MV7's best attribute, his running.

Let's admit we made a mistake by releasing him, and focus our energies on getting him back instead of falsely building up Ryan.

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Look here folks:

Mike Vick: Matt Ryan:

Games 12 16

Attempts 372 571

Completions 233 375

Percent 62.6 62.5

Att/G 31.0 35.7

Yards 3018 3705

YPA 8.1 6.5

Yards/G 251.5 231.6

TD 21 28

TD/G 1.75 1.75

INT 6 9

LONG 91T 46 (lol)

20+ 48 32

40+ 12 6

Rate 100.2 91

Folks, they are pretty much equally accurate (MV7 has a slight edge), but unlike Captain Checkdown, MV7 makes impact plays: more YPA, and many more large gains (despite playing in 25% less games)

And this isn't even taking into account MV7's best attribute, his running.

Let's admit we made a mistake by releasing him, and focus our energies on getting him back instead of falsely building up Ryan.

Like I said, bait thread.

You happy now OP?

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Don't be surprised if this thread hit's more than 5 pages.

Not if we all pledge not to post in it anymore. Here's my pledge:

You won't see me in this thread again.

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As it will be for me. The stats and analysis I posted have effectively ended all reason for further discussion. There is no need for further debate; MV7>Captain Checkdown

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Look here folks:

Mike Vick: Matt Ryan:

Games 12 16

Attempts 372 571

Completions 233 375

Percent 62.6 62.5

Att/G 31.0 35.7

Yards 3018 3705

YPA 8.1 6.5

Yards/G 251.5 231.6

TD 21 28

TD/G 1.75 1.75

INT 6 9

LONG 91T 46 (lol)

20+ 48 32

40+ 12 6

Rate 100.2 91

Folks, they are pretty much equally accurate (MV7 has a slight edge), but unlike Captain Checkdown, MV7 makes impact plays: more YPA, and many more large gains (despite playing in 25% less games)

And this isn't even taking into account MV7's best attribute, his running.

Let's admit we made a mistake by releasing him, and focus our energies on getting him back instead of falsely building up Ryan.

As I've posted before:

Actual Quarterback stats:

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Mike: 98 games over 8 years (not counting 2 out of football) = average 12.3 games per year, Record = 46-31-1 for 59%

Career

1169 of 2115 for 55.3%, 14,609 yards, 6.9 average, 93 TD for 4.4% , 58 Int for 2.7% - Rating 80.2

Per Year

146 of 265, 1826 yards, 11.6 TD, 7.3 Int

Per Game

11.9 / 21.6, 149.1 yards, 0.9 TD, 0.6 Int

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Postseason = 6 games over 8 years, Record = 2-3 for 40%

Career

78 of 139 for 56.1%, 901 yards, 6.5 yds avg, 4 TD, 4 INT, Rating = 73.5

Per Game

13 of 23.2, 150.2 yards, 0.67 TD, 0.67 INT

Per Year

9.8 of 17.4, 112.6 yards, 0.5 TD, 0.5 INT

==============================================================================

Ryan: 46 games over 3 years = average 15.3 games per year, Record = 33-13 for 71.7%

Career

885 of 1456 for 60.8%, 10,061 yards, 6.9 average, 66 TD for 4.5% , 34 Int for 2.3% - Rating 86.9

Per Year

295 of 485, 3353.7 yards, 22 TD, 11 Int

Per Game

19.2 /31.7, 218.7 yards, 1.4 TD, 0.7 Int

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Postseason: 2 games over 3 years, Record = 0-0 for 0%

Career

46 of 69 for 66.7%, 385 yards, 3 TD, 4 INT, Rating 71.2

Per Game

23 for 34.5, 192.5 yards, 1.5 TD, 2 INT

Per Year

15.3 for 23, 128.3 yards, 1 TD, 1.3 INT

============================================================================

Both QBs have good points and bad points. Let it go. You can like one, both or neither - it doesn't change who QBs where.

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I think this is an easy one and its Matt Ryan all he done is set most TD passes in a single season for the Falcons and lead the team to its first back to back winning seasons and he's only 33-13 as a starter he's way ahead of Vick and when I say way I mean he's way ahead of where Mike Vick was and I also think he's the better QB now as well and there's only one guy I'd take over Ryan and thats Aaron Rodgers. Besides Mike Vick doesn't have the Want/Drive to want to win that Ryan does. And in week 2 when the Falcons not just beat the Eagles but destroy them I think this subject will be laid to rest. And all I here people saying well he has more heart and drive now well thats great but just wait and see how hard the Falcons play for Arthur Blank and how much they'll want to win that game.

Well thats my "opinion" lets here what you guys think

Matt Ryan vs. Mike Vick who's better?

I don't think Aaron rodgers is that good.

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The only advantage Vick has is his speed. If you pay or only watch to see him scramble then you must honestly have no clue about what makes a TRUE qb. I personally like watching the traditional qb that only scrambles when needed. That's the way the position should be played. Big Ben and Aaron Rodgers are perfect examples

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The only advantage Vick has is his speed. If you pay or only watch to see him scramble then you must honestly have no clue about what makes a TRUE qb. I personally like watching the traditional qb that only scrambles when needed. That's the way the position should be played. Big Ben and Aaron Rodgers are perfect examples

Folks, this is exactly what I am talking about. Why post if you're too lazy to read the previous posts? My stats proved that regardless of running ability, Vick is more accurate, and throws for more yards per attempt.

And yes, Spot on Dtan2 was banned.

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Folks, this is exactly what I am talking about. Why post if you're too lazy to read the previous posts? My stats proved that regardless of running ability, Vick is more accurate, and throws for more yards per attempt.

And yes, Spot on Dtan2 was banned.

Why would I read a previous post from a 15 year old vick fan that clearly doesn't even have a clue as to why he isn't apart of this team anymore

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As I've posted before:

Actual Quarterback stats:

==========================================================================

Mike: 98 games over 8 years (not counting 2 out of football) = average 12.3 games per year, Record = 46-31-1 for 59%

Career

1169 of 2115 for 55.3%, 14,609 yards, 6.9 average, 93 TD for 4.4% , 58 Int for 2.7% - Rating 80.2

Per Year

146 of 265, 1826 yards, 11.6 TD, 7.3 Int

Per Game

11.9 / 21.6, 149.1 yards, 0.9 TD, 0.6 Int

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Postseason = 6 games over 8 years, Record = 2-3 for 40%

Career

78 of 139 for 56.1%, 901 yards, 6.5 yds avg, 4 TD, 4 INT, Rating = 73.5

Per Game

13 of 23.2, 150.2 yards, 0.67 TD, 0.67 INT

Per Year

9.8 of 17.4, 112.6 yards, 0.5 TD, 0.5 INT

==============================================================================

Ryan: 46 games over 3 years = average 15.3 games per year, Record = 33-13 for 71.7%

Career

885 of 1456 for 60.8%, 10,061 yards, 6.9 average, 66 TD for 4.5% , 34 Int for 2.3% - Rating 86.9

Per Year

295 of 485, 3353.7 yards, 22 TD, 11 Int

Per Game

19.2 /31.7, 218.7 yards, 1.4 TD, 0.7 Int

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Postseason: 2 games over 3 years, Record = 0-0 for 0%

Career

46 of 69 for 66.7%, 385 yards, 3 TD, 4 INT, Rating 71.2

Per Game

23 for 34.5, 192.5 yards, 1.5 TD, 2 INT

Per Year

15.3 for 23, 128.3 yards, 1 TD, 1.3 INT

============================================================================

Both QBs have good points and bad points. Let it go. You can like one, both or neither - it doesn't change who QBs where.

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How dare you use statistics and facts as an arguement against my unhealthy obsession with Vick and his man parts.

Vick's butt < Ryan's Butt.

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Let me break this down real simple...

Matt Ryan:

- Rookie of the Year

- Winning Seasons every year he has played

- 2 playoff appearances in 3 yrs

- No Federal Jail Time

Mike Vick:

- Never had back to back winning seasons

- Had such great touch on the ball that anyone running a slant was in danger of a concusion

- Flicked off his own fans

- Admitted that he didnt take practice serious

- Spread herpes

- Busted w/ weed at Miami Airport

- Did federal jail time

- Is now an Eagle

*** No TRUE falcons fan can support this guy. I know alot of black people want so badly to see a true sucessful black QB but for now, there just isnt one so they cling on to Vick. Yea, that may sound racist, but sometimes the truth hurts. Mike Vick is a great athlete, mediocre QB, and a P.O.S. person...thats not opinion, thats fact.

Good day

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