Big_L Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 It's not as nice of place as the books would have you believe. Like every big city!Doesn't even have to be a big city my friend. I'm here in Wichita and half this place reminds me Desire projects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dago Posted June 4, 2011 Author Share Posted June 4, 2011 ouch. that 'secret' meeting that the owners and players had?the owners used that against them in court to say that it was proof that the players union had not decertified dirty dealing there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dago Posted June 5, 2011 Author Share Posted June 5, 2011 The union decertifies and still tries to act like a union Dago. Enough blame to go all the way around.actually no. the union decertified and had not been acting as a union since they had not been back to the negotiating table until that secret meeting.plus when both sides decide to agree to a secret meeting where there is progress, what does it serve to do this? the only way for it to have been productive would have been for both sides to forget the legal maneuvering (the tv contracts and the decertification) to this point and focus on getting the deal done. how long will it be before the players negotiate in good faith again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REV.2000 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Or peach trees in GA. Or crackheads in DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dago Posted June 8, 2011 Author Share Posted June 8, 2011 talks continuing. Goodell reporting good progresshttp://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6641580here is something that stands out:The federal appeals court has said it will rule in "due course." Judge Kermit Bye, however, advised the two sides to work it out, saying the court's decision likely will be "something both sides aren't going to like."I have the feeling that both sides have been made aware of what the ruling will likely be and, as Judge Bye said, they don't much care for it. That would definitely explain the new willingness to talk and find a middle ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shredman Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Man I sure would love to see that Breaking News Clip on ESPN and NFL NetworkNew CBA in Place, FA to start at Midnight I believe we will see it, and we will see Before July I Thinkthen again who know lolI Guess who Knows is better than what it will be by SeptIf July Rolls aroundwe will not being seeing to many who knowsbut alot of Who Cares...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dago Posted June 8, 2011 Author Share Posted June 8, 2011 Man I sure would love to see that Breaking News Clip on ESPN and NFL NetworkNew CBA in Place, FA to start at Midnight I believe we will see it, and we will see Before July I Thinkthen again who know lolI Guess who Knows is better than what it will be by SeptIf July Rolls aroundwe will not being seeing to many who knowsbut alot of Who Cares......I keep waiting to see that ticker myself. they can still have the entire season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightsCameronAction Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Going to shred your paper thin defensive front: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shredman Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Hey its a new Panther Fan , we sure missed you guys lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REV.2000 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Going to shred your paper thin defensive front:SURE YOU ARE .... AIN'T THAT WHAT THEY ALL SAY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightsCameronAction Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 And most do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REV.2000 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 And most do.YOU DIDN'T ... WE SWEPT YOU .... TWO STRAIGHT.SORRY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shredman Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 i wont hijack Dagos Lockout thread, I think the new guy just saw the title and thought it was a players thread, so i wont blast him and his team with the REAL STATS , and The REAL STATS look very very Ugly for Panthers heads up Vs Atlanta Falcons.... but back to lock out... now they are telling jokes at these meetings i hear... the joke is on us , waiting for FA to start and to know there will be a season.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dago Posted June 9, 2011 Author Share Posted June 9, 2011 i wont hijack Dagos Lockout thread, I think the new guy just saw the title and thought it was a players thread, so i wont blast him and his team with the REAL STATS , and The REAL STATS look very very Ugly for Panthers heads up Vs Atlanta Falcons.... but back to lock out... now they are telling jokes at these meetings i hear... the joke is on us , waiting for FA to start and to know there will be a season....while I appreciate the sentiment...COME ON MAN!!!do you not know a shiny lure when you see one? and her rig ain't bad either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REV.2000 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 while I appreciate the sentiment...COME ON MAN!!!do you not know a shiny lure when you see one? and her rig ain't bad either SOME RIG ... AIN'T IT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dago Posted June 21, 2011 Author Share Posted June 21, 2011 http://www.saintsreport.com/forums/showthread.php?t=199621instead of trying to gather all this info together, just link to this threadall signs are positive that a new agreement will be in place by mid July, training camps starting on time, and even having the HOF gamethis is going to be a wild FA period. someone is going to get screwed because the bidding will be fast and furious for the top FAs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dago Posted June 21, 2011 Author Share Posted June 21, 2011 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6687485Among the details NFL commissioner Roger Goodell is revealing to owners Tuesday at the owners' meeting in Rosemont, Ill., is that in the next proposed agreement players will receive a 48 percent share of "all revenue," without the $1-billion-plus credit off the top that had been a point of contention in earlier negotiations, according to sources familiar with the presentation.Under the new formula being negotiated, players will receive 48 percent of all revenue and will never dip below a 46.5 percent take of the money, sources said.Proposed CBA DetailsDetails of a proposed collective bargaining agreement being pitched to NFL owners Tuesday, according to sources:• Players get 48 percent of "all revenue," without extra $1-billion-plus off top that previously had been requested by owners.• Players' share will never dip below 46.5 percent, under new formula being negotiated.• Teams required to spend minimum 90-93 percent of the salary cap.• Rookie wage scale part of deal but still being "tweaked."• 18-game regular season designated only as negotiable item and at no point is mandated in deal.• New 16-game Thursday night TV package beginning in 2012.• Owners still will get some expense credits that will allow funding for new stadiums.• Retirees to benefit from improved health care, pension benefits as revenue projected to double to $18 million by 2016.-- ESPN's Chris MortensenIn the previous collective bargaining agreement, players received approximately 60 percent of "total revenue" but that did not include $1 billion that was designated as an expense credit off the top of the $9 billion revenue model. Owners initially were seeking another $1 billion in credit only to reduce that amount substantially before exercising the lockout on March 13.Ultimately, the two sides have decided to simplify the formula, which will eliminate some tedious accounting audits of the credit the players have allowed in the previous deal. NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith has stated that players were actually receiving around 53 percent of all revenues instead of the much advertised 60 percent.Owners still will get some expense credits that will allow funding for new stadium construction, sources said.A rookie wage scale will be part of the new deal but is still being "tweaked," and the much-discussed 18-game regular season will be designated only as a negotiable item with the players and at no point is mandated in a potential agreement. A new 16-game Thursday night TV package beginning in 2012 will be the source of new revenue.As revenues are projected to possibly double by 2016 to $18 billion annually, retired players will benefit from improved health and pension funding that is expected to increase significantly.Players believe they can justify a 48 percent take because of the projected revenue growth, as well as built-in mechanisms that require teams to spend a minimum of 90-93 percent of the salary cap, sources said. The mandatory minimum spending increase is an element that concerns lower-revenue clubs, sources say.A league source told ESPN's Sal Paolantonio that there will not be a vote on a new collective bargaining agreement Tuesday."This is strictly informational. There is nothing to vote on," the source told ESPN.The negotiating teams for the owners and players, led by Goodell and Smith, are expected to return to the table most likely Wednesday and Thursday at an undisclosed site, hoping to build off the momentum of three strong weeks of talks under the supervision of a court-appointed mediator, U.S. Magistrate Judge Arthur Boylan.A source told ESPN.com's John Clayton that talks are scheduled to resume Wednesday in Boston.Cautious expectations on the two sides reaching an agreement in principle are varied, ranging from one-to-three weeks with the hopes of beginning a new league year (free agency, etc.) by mid-July.If and when there an agreement is reached, all players with four or more years of experience are expected to be unrestricted free agents, according to sources familiar with the talks. Certain tags will be retained but that still is being discussed.Players are willing to commit to at least a 10-year labor agreement if the sides can agree on the terms, sources told Clayton. The first preseason game, at the Pro Football Hall of Fame, is scheduled for Aug. 7.Any breakdown in talks could result in the loss of preseason games and threaten the opening of the regular season."This is the season to get a deal," Indianapolis Colts owner Jim Irsay said before entering the conference room where representatives from all 32 teams were being updated by Goodell and his negotiating committee. "I think the logic that you're pushing on both sides is saying why get a deal Oct. 1, or whenever, when you could have had July 7, or whatever."Tuesday marks Day 98 of the lockout, the NFL's first work stoppage since 1987 and the longest in NFL history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 while I appreciate the sentiment...COME ON MAN!!!do you not know a shiny lure when you see one? and her rig ain't bad either :wub: :wub: :wub: Gotta love a woman who know's how to handle a rod like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pencilpusher. just because Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 while I appreciate the sentiment...COME ON MAN!!!do you not know a shiny lure when you see one? and her rig ain't bad either I dunno man, little too much of a bulge going on down there...something aint right.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jb aka johnnybuc Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I dunno man, little too much of a bulge going on down there...something aint right..Oh Jesus...I just threw up in my mouth............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REV.2000 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I dunno man, little too much of a bulge going on down there...something aint right.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dago Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share Posted June 22, 2011 http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/NFL-labor-momentum-carrying-owners-players-to-new-CBA-062111awesome news. at most there were 5 owners who had problems with the new proposals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/NFL-labor-momentum-carrying-owners-players-to-new-CBA-062111awesome news. at most there were 5 owners who had problems with the new proposalsNice read thanks for posting.one thing that stuck out to me"Said one NFC owner: "The purpose of the meeting was to get things out on the table, but it sure looks like there's nothing close to nine ('no') votes." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dago Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share Posted June 22, 2011 Nice read thanks for posting.one thing that stuck out to me"Said one NFC owner: "The purpose of the meeting was to get things out on the table, but it sure looks like there's nothing close to nine ('no') votes."before I say this, I am gonna find some damned wood to knock on but....THERE GONNA BE NFL FOOTBALL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_L Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 i wont hijack Dagos Lockout thread, I think the new guy just saw the title and thought it was a players thread, so i wont blast him and his team with the REAL STATS , and The REAL STATS look very very Ugly for Panthers heads up Vs Atlanta Falcons.... but back to lock out... now they are telling jokes at these meetings i hear... the joke is on us , waiting for FA to start and to know there will be a season....C'mon Shred, since when do you need stats!!!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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