Per Cris Collinsworth Via Rotoworld...

[NetGain]

Matty

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9COk3x-8Vk

[phattywankenobi]

Hello. I have been watching this board and a few other teams in the NFC South for some time. I work for a team in the NFC, however we are no longer recieving paychecks during this lockout.

[Tandy]

I happen to think both are rising stars. Freeman is going to be a great QB if he continues studying and working hard and barring injury. So is Ryan. No need to compare them now. Both are just starting their careers.

But, I have to say you guys are way off base about Freeman throwing more in the air than Ryan - that is just not statistically a fact.

In 2010 -

Ryan threw for an average of 6.3 Yards In The Air Per Completion - an average of 143.3 Yards In The Air Per Game and a total of 2,292 Yards In The Air for the Year.

Freeman threw for an average of 6.1 Yards In The Air Per Completion - an average of 117.1 Yards In The Air Per Game and a total of 1,874 Yards In The Air for the Year.

All this talk about more yards being thrown by Freeman - more "deep balls" - is really ridiculous when you consider that those passes are judged by the total distance traveled - not thrown. For instance - if he throws a ball 5 yards and the receiver goes 40 - he gets credited with a 45 yard pass.

When you consider that the Falcons are dead LAST in YAC - that accounts for a lot of those deep passes. To further that - how about these charts - the first one is YIA - or Yards in the Air, which I outlined above. You can see where the Falcons fall there for 2010 and where the Bucs fall.

The second one is YAC - or Yards after the Catch - Look at where the Bucs are compared to the Falcons.

The facts speak for themselves.

HERE IS THE YIA:

AND FOR THE YAC:

[Borat]

I happen to think both are rising stars. Freeman is going to be a great QB if he continues studying and working hard and barring injury. So is Ryan. No need to compare them now. Both are just starting their careers.

But, I have to say you guys are way off base about Freeman throwing more in the air than Ryan - that is just not statistically a fact.

In 2010 -

Ryan threw for an average of 6.3 Yards In The Air Per Completion - an average of 143.3 Yards In The Air Per Game and a total of 2,292 Yards In The Air for the Year.

Freeman threw for an average of 6.1 Yards In The Air Per Completion - an average of 117.1 Yards In The Air Per Game and a total of 1,874 Yards In The Air for the Year.

All this talk about more yards being thrown by Freeman - more "deep balls" - is really ridiculous when you consider that those passes are judged by the total distance traveled - not thrown. For instance - if he throws a ball 5 yards and the receiver goes 40 - he gets credited with a 45 yard pass.

When you consider that the Falcons are dead LAST in YAC - that accounts for a lot of those deep passes. To further that - how about these charts - the first one is YIA - or Yards in the Air, which I outlined above. You can see where the Falcons fall there for 2010 and where the Bucs fall.

The second one is YAC - or Yards after the Catch - Look at where the Bucs are compared to the Falcons.

The facts speak for themselves.

HERE IS THE YIA:

AND FOR THE YAC:

Very nice research. Where is it from?

[NetGain]

You've pointed out a difference in 400 yards YIA and 200 yards in YAC

Over a 16 game season the difference per game is 25 YIA and 12 YAC. That stats tells me that Matty is throwing more attempts and is not leading his receiver to make a play.

If i were you, i wouldn't rest my case there. i would never rest my laurels on YIA and YAC when judging a QB.

[Tandy]

Very nice research. Where is it from?

I compile the charts myself - because you have to pull the numbers from a variety of statistics - and then I can sort them either by YAC or YIA. I keep it up during the year and post it here and on the other MB.

Here is the stats location - you can get the YAC by team or the YIA by team and the total yards, etc. - but not together. They sort it by total YAC or total Yards - which is not a good sort for those teams that do not throw as often.

I sort it by YAC or YIA per completion - because that is the more accurate tale of how they average when completing a pass.

[Tandy]

You've pointed out a difference in 400 yards YIA and 200 yards in YAC

Over a 16 game season the difference per game is 25 YIA and 12 YAC. That stats tells me that Matty is throwing more attempts and is not leading his receiver to make a play.

If i were you, i wouldn't rest my case there. i would never rest my laurels on YIA and YAC when judging a QB.

Dude, if you are going to claim to "work" for a team - at least make sense.

By the way, we have plenty of people who "work" for the team who come on these boards- there are no restrictions - so you can stop the BS.

Now - as for the numbers - Ryan is known for his anticipation of where the receiver will be - and the ball is out of his hands long before the receiver breaks. His passes are timing based - and he is excellent at it and getting better.

Further, The numbers are compiled by completion - not attempt - and have been given to you on a completion basis, completions per game basis and completions for the year - so I'm not sure what you are trying to dissect about attempts - they don't play here.