ATL Doc Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 (edited) John Agraham and Bierman are solid DEs but Babs is our only solid DT. There are a few good DTs that will be available:Haloti Ngata (BAL)Richard Seymour (OAK)Pat Williams (MIN) John Henderson (OAK)Albert Hainsworth (WAS)If we can collapse the pocket and have Beirman and Abraham storming the outside or entire defense will improve drastically. Edited May 22, 2011 by ATL Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockerfalcon Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 I agree with the concept but I believe williams is the only free agent on your list. Ngata was franchinsed the rest are under contract and would require a trade to get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ICEMAN Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Kris Jenkins 6-4 360 Would be much cheaper than any of those guysAnd Richard Seymour resigned with Oakland before the lockout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyHighFalcons Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 John Agraham and Bierman are solid DEs but Babs is our only solid DT. There are a few good DTs that will be available:Haloti Ngata (BAL)Richard Seymour (OAK)Pat Williams (MIN) John Henderson (OAK)Albert Hainsworth (WAS)If we can collapse the pocket and have Beirman and Abraham storming the outside or entire defense will improve drastically.Seymour got tagged, isn't going anywhere. Albert Haynesworth isn't available and would cost too much in a trade for his out of shape, crime lovin' ***. Pat Williams isn't that good anymore, just a big body and might just retire (has one more year in the league at most). John Henderson is another that isn't anything good anymore, wouldn't be an upgrade. Our DT rotation is solid with Babs, Jerry and Peters. Ngata is the only guy that is actually available that would be an upgrade.Biermann is a perfect rotational guy, but isn't a starting DE in the league. If we can get Ray Edwards then this will be our awsome rotation:RDE: Abe/Sid/AndersonLDE: Edwards/Biermann/AndersonDT: Babs/Peters/Jerry/Anderson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Carasik Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 too bad Atlanta's scheme isn't predicated on big DT's. It's predicated on penetrating types. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hustle Up Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Well, the FO has to do something, because DT is a problem. I'm sure they'll take a look at sum UDFA too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Well, the FO has to do something, because DT is a problem. I'm sure they'll take a look at sum UDFA too.I agree 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madman88 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 umm babs is one of our smaller DTs, so where are we going with this???? have we last hope in jerry and peters??? what about walker, who plays the run pretty solid when given the chance.,... to many young guys to bring in a vet thats going to want to START and not rotate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 TOMMIE FREAKIN HARRIS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 umm babs is one of our smaller DTs, so where are we going with this???? have we last hope in jerry and peters??? what about walker, who plays the run pretty solid when given the chance.,... to many young guys to bring in a vet thats going to want to START and not rotate...Don't bring in a Vet.Walker is an FA. Man I hate the DT rotation right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Actually Nagta has been tagged too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Actually Nagta has been tagged too.Yeah. I remember Ray Lewis having a lot to do with bringing him in after Tony Siragusa retired. He said that just like a RB a MLB needs a big body in the middle no matter what the scheme. That little guy thing never works. They brought in Ngata and after one year of talking about Lewis losing a step, it went to Lewis being the best of all time.Was he wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*TMo* Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 I think we're set at the defensive tackle position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 I think we're set at the defensive tackle position.A lot of people do, including the FO. Doesn't mean I have to like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 TOMMIE FREAKIN HARRIS If healthy, this guy is the perfect fit for us. He's only 28 or 29 I think. But when you talk penetrating, but solid run stuffing 43 DTs--this guy is the one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WFColonel56 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 John Agraham and Bierman are solid DEs but Babs is our only solid DT. There are a few good DTs that will be available:Haloti Ngata (BAL) Not gunna happenRichard Seymour (OAK) not gunna happenPat Williams (MIN) slim chanceJohn Henderson (OAK)worth looking intoAlbert Hainsworth (WAS)great move from a talent perspective, but do we want that baggage that comes with himIf we can collapse the pocket and have Beirman and Abraham storming the outside or entire defense will improve drastically.We do need to look into DTs but i feel as if that spot has more of an upside than our current DE situation. Jerry might be just what we need who knows, and Trey L might come through. I think the upside is better for our players already there at DT (than at DE) But if we can bring Hainsworth in for cheap we could cut him if he starts with his BS. I think that would be the best move to make for that position. If it doesnt work out than i think we will still be solid there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM12 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 it is not often that you get DTs who produce at a younger age.Granted, Suh is in beast mode, but most DTs take some time to develop. Another year battling NFL OLinemen will do Peters, Jerry, Walker the world of good. I have not lost faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironhead1970 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Yeah. I remember Ray Lewis having a lot to do with bringing him in after Tony Siragusa retired. He said that just like a RB a MLB needs a big body in the middle no matter what the scheme. That little guy thing never works. They brought in Ngata and after one year of talking about Lewis losing a step, it went to Lewis being the best of all time.Was he wrong?No! He wasn't wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delaigle Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 I'm more concerned about other positions on the D.Safety there are 5 on the roster but only 2 have played any, the other 3 are RAW what if a starter gets hurt??CB there are only 4 on the roster 3 have playing time and one of them is a FALB ok there are 9 on the roster but only 5 have playing time and 2 of them are FA.DT has 5 all with playing time and I think all have started games at some time (not sure on Walker)I would look to fix safety and CB before going after DTs, if one of the starters at safety or at CB goes down the Falcons are in a world of hurt. Not so true at DT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borat Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 This is really, really weird, but last night I actually had a dream that we resigned Grady Jackson... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATL Doc Posted June 7, 2011 Author Share Posted June 7, 2011 Ngata may not be an option but Hainsworth will be cut and we need someone that requires a double team at DT. If we don't get Willaims or Hainsworth we need someone. QB pressure is key in making a defense. Most QBs aren't as accurrate on the move which helps CB's tremendously. Moore and Decoud are both hard hitters and great at the position. They may need back ups but they are great starters. Our biggest need on defense is at DT.I'd like to give our O-line credit because I think they are the true strongest point on our team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler11 Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 I'm more concerned about other positions on the D.Safety there are 5 on the roster but only 2 have played any, the other 3 are RAW what if a starter gets hurt??CB there are only 4 on the roster 3 have playing time and one of them is a FALB ok there are 9 on the roster but only 5 have playing time and 2 of them are FA.DT has 5 all with playing time and I think all have started games at some time (not sure on Walker)I would look to fix safety and CB before going after DTs, if one of the starters at safety or at CB goes down the Falcons are in a world of hurt. Not so true at DT.100% agreed! We have much bigger needs. Another DT would be a luxury if we did sign one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATL Doc Posted June 7, 2011 Author Share Posted June 7, 2011 What does it matter how many we have on the roster if our D plays well? DE, CB, Safety and LB have solid starters. DT does not. I would match our staters against anyother defense in the league and I think we'd match up very well. G-Bay showed how our middle was week. They doubled Abraham all game and made the TE or RB help on Biermann which gave the DTs 1 on 1 and they didn't get it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler11 Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 What does it matter how many we have on the roster if our D plays well? DE, CB, Safety and LB have solid starters. DT does not. I would match our staters against anyother defense in the league and I think we'd match up very well. G-Bay showed how our middle was week. They doubled Abraham all game and made the TE or RB help on Biermann which gave the DTs 1 on 1 and they didn't get it done.I would take our starters at DT (Babs, Peters and Jerry) over our starters at DE and LB. You have to remember JA98 finished the year starting in our base package at DE and Biermann was less productive when given more snaps. At linebacker we have Lofton who is a stud, Weatherspoon who is unproven, but I think he'll be a stud, 2 potential FA's in MP and Nicholas and a rookie in Dent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATL Doc Posted June 7, 2011 Author Share Posted June 7, 2011 I would take our starters at DT (Babs, Peters and Jerry) over our starters at DE and LB. You have to remember JA98 finished the year starting in our base package at DE and Biermann was less productive when given more snaps. At linebacker we have Lofton who is a stud, Weatherspoon who is unproven, but I think he'll be a stud, 2 potential FA's in MP and Nicholas and a rookie in Dent.We rotate our players but Biermann and Abraham are a better duo at DE that Babs and Peters or any combination of DTs that we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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