Tandy Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Start a franchise with Josh Freeman?By Pat Yasinskas Scouts Inc.'s Matt Williamson is one of the people I rely on most when it comes to personnel evaluation. Williamson has front-office and scouting experience in the league and his opinions are valuable tools to the writers on the ESPN.com blog network. I didn't have to call Williamson for this nugget because it appeared on his Twitter account. When asked to list five young quarterbacks he would start a team with, the first two guys Williamson mentioned were Tampa Bay's Josh Freeman and Atlanta's Matt Ryan. He followed them with Sam Bradford, Matthew Stafford and Joe Flacco. No argument here. I don't think you could go wrong with Freeman or Ryan. Freeman's only had one full season as a starter, but it was a very good one and his upside is tremendous. Ryan's led the Falcons to three consecutive winning seasons since he's entered the league. The one knock on Ryan is that he hasn't won a playoff game, but I think the Falcons are working hard to do everything they can to change that. That drafting of receiver Julio Jones should help. But I also think coach Mike Smith and offensive coordinator Mike Mularkey need to tweak their offensive philosophy just a bit. With Michael Turner, the running game always is going to be important. That's fine. But I don't think the Falcons have truly freed Ryan up to put him in positions where he can make more big plays. I think the minds in Flowery Branch, Ga., have realized that this offseason and I think you'll see Ryan have some limitations taken off him next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyhateme : ) Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Start a franchise with Josh Freeman?By Pat Yasinskas Scouts Inc.'s Matt Williamson is one of the people I rely on most when it comes to personnel evaluation. Williamson has front-office and scouting experience in the league and his opinions are valuable tools to the writers on the ESPN.com blog network. I didn't have to call Williamson for this nugget because it appeared on his Twitter account. When asked to list five young quarterbacks he would start a team with, the first two guys Williamson mentioned were Tampa Bay's Josh Freeman and Atlanta's Matt Ryan. He followed them with Sam Bradford, Matthew Stafford and Joe Flacco. No argument here. I don't think you could go wrong with Freeman or Ryan. Freeman's only had one full season as a starter, but it was a very good one and his upside is tremendous. Ryan's led the Falcons to three consecutive winning seasons since he's entered the league. The one knock on Ryan is that he hasn't won a playoff game, but I think the Falcons are working hard to do everything they can to change that. That drafting of receiver Julio Jones should help. But I also think coach Mike Smith and offensive coordinator Mike Mularkey need to tweak their offensive philosophy just a bit. With Michael Turner, the running game always is going to be important. That's fine. But I don't think the Falcons have truly freed Ryan up to put him in positions where he can make more big plays. I think the minds in Flowery Branch, Ga., have realized that this offseason and I think you'll see Ryan have some limitations taken off him next season.They are gonna have to....LET RYAN THROW!! LET RYAN THROW!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Start a franchise with Josh Freeman?By Pat Yasinskas Scouts Inc.'s Matt Williamson is one of the people I rely on most when it comes to personnel evaluation. Williamson has front-office and scouting experience in the league and his opinions are valuable tools to the writers on the ESPN.com blog network. I didn't have to call Williamson for this nugget because it appeared on his Twitter account. When asked to list five young quarterbacks he would start a team with, the first two guys Williamson mentioned were Tampa Bay's Josh Freeman and Atlanta's Matt Ryan. He followed them with Sam Bradford, Matthew Stafford and Joe Flacco. No argument here. I don't think you could go wrong with Freeman or Ryan. Freeman's only had one full season as a starter, but it was a very good one and his upside is tremendous. Ryan's led the Falcons to three consecutive winning seasons since he's entered the league. The one knock on Ryan is that he hasn't won a playoff game, but I think the Falcons are working hard to do everything they can to change that. That drafting of receiver Julio Jones should help. But I also think coach Mike Smith and offensive coordinator Mike Mularkey need to tweak their offensive philosophy just a bit. With Michael Turner, the running game always is going to be important. That's fine. But I don't think the Falcons have truly freed Ryan up to put him in positions where he can make more big plays. I think the minds in Flowery Branch, Ga., have realized that this offseason and I think you'll see Ryan have some limitations taken off him next season.I have maintained for the last two seasons and the last 1/2 of Matt Ryan's rookie season that the offensive playcalling has been a detriment to Matt.The one game where I think the playbook was really loosened up for Matt was the Baltimore Ravens game. The Ravens were confident they could beat the Falcons because of the Falcons reputation for being stubborn with the run game and throwing mainly on obvious situations - this plays right into the hands of a Ravens/Steelers type of defense.Matt threw the ball over 40 times in that game and this really was an issue for the Ravens - if Mularkey had called his normal game, Falcons would have lost by 10 points.We need more games like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominique is Manufique Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I have maintained for the last two seasons and the last 1/2 of Matt Ryan's rookie season that the offensive playcalling has been a detriment to Matt.The one game where I think the playbook was really loosened up for Matt was the Baltimore Ravens game. The Ravens were confident they could beat the Falcons because of the Falcons reputation for being stubborn with the run game and throwing mainly on obvious situations - this plays right into the hands of a Ravens/Steelers type of defense.Matt threw the ball over 40 times in that game and this really was an issue for the Ravens - if Mularkey had called his normal game, Falcons would have lost by 10 points.We need more games like that.as i was reading your response i knew you'd point to that ravens game. it was apparent ATL knew they had to take advantage of their weak secondary.i don't want to see that every week personally. i like the grind it out control the clock philosophy, but a deep throw every now and then should be added just to keep the defense a little more honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyhateme : ) Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I have maintained for the last two seasons and the last 1/2 of Matt Ryan's rookie season that the offensive playcalling has been a detriment to Matt.The one game where I think the playbook was really loosened up for Matt was the Baltimore Ravens game. The Ravens were confident they could beat the Falcons because of the Falcons reputation for being stubborn with the run game and throwing mainly on obvious situations - this plays right into the hands of a Ravens/Steelers type of defense.Matt threw the ball over 40 times in that game and this really was an issue for the Ravens - if Mularkey had called his normal game, Falcons would have lost by 10 points.We need more games like that.I enjoyed watching that game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyhateme : ) Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 as i was reading your response i knew you'd point to that ravens game. it was apparent ATL knew they had to take advantage of their weak secondary.i don't want to see that every week personally. i like the grind it out control the clock philosophy, but a deep throw every now and then should be added just to keep the defense a little more honest.I get what you've said, but that's kinda been the problem. We can't expect to connect on a deep ball (when we really need it) if we are only throwing them "every now and then." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyNastyBird Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Start a franchise with Josh Freeman?By Pat Yasinskas Scouts Inc.'s Matt Williamson is one of the people I rely on most when it comes to personnel evaluation. Williamson has front-office and scouting experience in the league and his opinions are valuable tools to the writers on the ESPN.com blog network. I didn't have to call Williamson for this nugget because it appeared on his Twitter account. When asked to list five young quarterbacks he would start a team with, the first two guys Williamson mentioned were Tampa Bay's Josh Freeman and Atlanta's Matt Ryan. He followed them with Sam Bradford, Matthew Stafford and Joe Flacco. No argument here. I don't think you could go wrong with Freeman or Ryan. Freeman's only had one full season as a starter, but it was a very good one and his upside is tremendous. Ryan's led the Falcons to three consecutive winning seasons since he's entered the league. The one knock on Ryan is that he hasn't won a playoff game, but I think the Falcons are working hard to do everything they can to change that. That drafting of receiver Julio Jones should help. But I also think coach Mike Smith and offensive coordinator Mike Mularkey need to tweak their offensive philosophy just a bit. With Michael Turner, the running game always is going to be important. That's fine. But I don't think the Falcons have truly freed Ryan up to put him in positions where he can make more big plays. I think the minds in Flowery Branch, Ga., have realized that this offseason and I think you'll see Ryan have some limitations taken off him next season.Matty Ice All the Way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominique is Manufique Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I get what you've said, but that's kinda been the problem. We can't expect to connect on a deep ball (when we really need it) if we are only throwing them "every now and then."that's the $1,000,000 question. if ATL slings it around like glanville did with the run & shoot you'll see more 3 and outs and more defensive snaps which nobody wants.this is a tricky subject in terms of how many down field attempts are enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyhateme : ) Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 that's the $1,000,000 question. if ATL slings it around like glanville did with the run & shoot you'll see more 3 and outs and more defensive snaps which nobody wants.this is a tricky subject in terms of how many down field attempts are enough.By know means am I saying that. I'd like for us to mix it up at the very least like we did during Ryan's Rookie year. He was also getting the ball out much quicker...the only knock that year was our refusal to adjust the snap count in the playoffs which resulted in Phoenix's defense timing the count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconmaniac Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 From that list (in order)RyanBradfordFlaccoFreemanStaffordRyan and Bradford seem to have the most "football inteligence" of that bunch.They will not loose a game for you.It is really hard to say because football is the biggest TEAM sport!You can have a great QB but so so wr's and a bad D and get your butt kicked week end and week out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdogg Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Mularkey holds the key to just how good Ryan and our offense can be. He needs to let Ryan fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandy Posted May 16, 2011 Author Share Posted May 16, 2011 From that list (in order)RyanBradfordFlaccoFreemanStaffordRyan and Bradford seem to have the most "football inteligence" of that bunch.They will not loose a game for you.It is really hard to say because football is the biggest TEAM sport!You can have a great QB but so so wr's and a bad D and get your butt kicked week end and week out.As much as I hate to talk well of a Buc - Freeman seems extremely intelligent to me. Just listening to him talk - he's a really smart kid. The only issue I've seen with him is patience.If I was starting a franchise - I'd take Ryan first. If Ryan wasn't available - I'd take Freeman then Bradford then Flacco then Stafford in that order.If Stafford could show he can stay healthy - he's got the ability to be one of the best in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlantaFalconPokerPro Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Start a franchise with Josh Freeman? I think you'll see Ryan have some limitations taken off him next season.How many years have we been hearing this. They need to turn the whole offense over to Matt. He is a smart kid that can do better than MM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlantaFalconPokerPro Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 As much as I hate to talk well of a Buc - Freeman seems extremely intelligent to me. Just listening to him talk - he's a really smart kid. The only issue I've seen with him is patience.Anyone who disagrees is in denial. As much as I hate to admit it, Freeman has really impressed me. He's make some big time plays, and is only going to get better. I think the NFC South is by far the best division in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyhateme : ) Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Mularkey holds the key to just how good Ryan and our offense can be. He needs to let Ryan fly.Very well said! +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltstorm2 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I get what you've said, but that's kinda been the problem. We can't expect to connect on a deep ball (when we really need it) if we are only throwing them "every now and then."Our "every now and then" will be when safeties are creeping up to the line to stop Turner because he's been gashing them all day."Ryan takes the snap... fakes the handoff to Turner, Ryan stops...steps...throws... hits Jenkins(for you )down the sidelines for a 45 yard gain. Move the chains." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyhateme : ) Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Our "every now and then" will be when safeties are creeping up to the line to stop Turner because he's been gashing them all day."Ryan takes the snap... fakes the handoff to Turner, Ryan stops...steps...throws... hits Jenkins(for you )down the sidelines for a 45 yard gain. Move the chains." !! Any WR picking up a 45 yard reception would be be cool with me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolUsernameHere Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 As much as I hate to talk well of a Buc - Freeman seems extremely intelligent to me. Just listening to him talk - he's a really smart kid. The only issue I've seen with him is patience.If I was starting a franchise - I'd take Ryan first. If Ryan wasn't available - I'd take Freeman then Bradford then Flacco then Stafford in that order.I totally agree. Freeman could be a legend. And his problem with patience will probably improve as he gets older. He's only 23.But as impressive as Freeman has been, I'd still take Matt Ryan first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raysnill1 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 How many years have we been hearing this. They need to turn the whole offense over to Matt. He is a smart kid that can do better than MM.I actually like our offense better when Matt is running the no-huddle. he makes good decisions and he usually takes quit a bit of time off the clock. I wonder what his QB rating is in the no-huddle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander1.9.71 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 (edited) Start a franchise with Josh Freeman?By Pat Yasinskas Scouts Inc.'s Matt Williamson is one of the people I rely on most when it comes to personnel evaluation. Williamson has front-office and scouting experience in the league and his opinions are valuable tools to the writers on the ESPN.com blog network. I didn't have to call Williamson for this nugget because it appeared on his Twitter account. When asked to list five young quarterbacks he would start a team with, the first two guys Williamson mentioned were Tampa Bay's Josh Freeman and Atlanta's Matt Ryan. He followed them with Sam Bradford, Matthew Stafford and Joe Flacco. No argument here. I don't think you could go wrong with Freeman or Ryan. Freeman's only had one full season as a starter, but it was a very good one and his upside is tremendous. Ryan's led the Falcons to three consecutive winning seasons since he's entered the league. The one knock on Ryan is that he hasn't won a playoff game, but I think the Falcons are working hard to do everything they can to change that. That drafting of receiver Julio Jones should help. But I also think coach Mike Smith and offensive coordinator Mike Mularkey need to tweak their offensive philosophy just a bit. With Michael Turner, the running game always is going to be important. That's fine. But I don't think the Falcons have truly freed Ryan up to put him in positions where he can make more big plays. I think the minds in Flowery Branch, Ga., have realized that this offseason and I think you'll see Ryan have some limitations taken off him next season.I really can't even believe honestly that the 2 are being compared. I think this should have been saved for next year. Freeman looked good, no doubt but he looked terrible his rookie season. Ryan had us in the playoffs his rookie year. Ryan missed two games in 2009, Freeman's rookie year and still had a good season. Ryan was in the probowl and playoffs last year with a 13-3 record. The Bucs haven't beaten us one time since Matt tookover. I just don't know how they can be compared. Edited May 16, 2011 by alexander1.9.71 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HouTexFalcon Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 I really can't even believe honestly that the 2 are being compared. I think this should have been saved for next year. Freeman looked good, no doubt but he looked terrible his rookie season. Ryan had us in the playoffs his rookie year. Ryan missed two games in 2009, Freeman's rookie year and still had a good season. Ryan was in the probowl and playoffs last year with a 13-3 record. The Bucs haven't beaten us one time since Matt tookover. I just don't know how they can be compared.My sentiments exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtybird1989 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 How many years have we been hearing this. They need to turn the whole offense over to Matt. He is a smart kid that can do better than MM.He probally knows the play book better than MM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buc-man™® Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Josh freeman... Joshie poo! Y'all will see in a few years. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulitik Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Josh freeman... Joshie poo! Y'all will see in a few years. :PWhen you guys dump him like Steve Young and he wins a Superbowl for the Niners? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buc-man™® Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 When you guys dump him like Steve Young and he wins a Superbowl for the Niners?If we dump free im going on a rampage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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