Lets Hope Julio puts up Mike William numbers

[real_fan]

Buc WR Mike Williams rated #83 of Top 100 players in the the league currently scored eleven TD's as a rookie. Julio needs to make that kind of impact to justify the trade in 2011.

[Tribal Chief]

He may not have 11 TD's but he's gonna have a heck of a season. If he doesn't, MM needs to be fired.

[Tandy]

He was targeted 129 times and had 65 receptions for 50.4%.

No one else on the team was targeted over 40 times - and only 3 were targeted over 9 times. Winslow only had about 3 receptions - so he's not even a factor.

That's not to say he's not good - he was very good - he had a sick average per reception and 11 TD - he's an excellent receiver. That's to say that he was targeted 27.2% of the attempts made by Freeman.

Clearly, he was the #1 target in Tampa.

Here - we had Roddy who is Ryan's #1 target - he was targeted 179 times and had 115 receptions for 64.2%.

Jenkins was targeted 73 times, Harry Douglas 53 times, Finn 31 times, and then Gonzo was targeted 92 times.

I just don't see the same make-up here. I don't think Julio will get 129 targeted passes - but if he does - I hope he has a better reception ratio than Williams and can match the average per receptions.

[falcon70]

Buc WR Mike Williams rated #83 of Top 100 players in the the league currently scored eleven TD's as a rookie. Julio needs to make that kind of impact to justify the trade in 2011.

Well considering the fact that the Bucs personnel department had the skill to find that type of talent in the 4th round with the use of only ONE PICK.

I would say Julio needs to score at least 55 touchdowns next season to justify spending 5 draft picks on him.

[falcon70]

He was targeted 129 times and had 65 receptions for 50.4%.

No one else on the team was targeted over 40 times - and only 3 were targeted over 9 times. Winslow only had about 3 receptions - so he's not even a factor.

That's not to say he's not good - he was very good - he had a sick average per reception and 11 TD - he's an excellent receiver. That's to say that he was targeted 27.2% of the attempts made by Freeman.

Clearly, he was the #1 target in Tampa.

Here - we had Roddy who is Ryan's #1 target - he was targeted 179 times and had 115 receptions for 64.2%.

Jenkins was targeted 73 times, Harry Douglas 53 times, Finn 31 times, and then Gonzo was targeted 92 times.

I just don't see the same make-up here. I don't think Julio will get 129 targeted passes - but if he does - I hope he has a better reception ratio than Williams and can match the average per receptions.

Then where is the logic?

It seems that the conclusion to be drawn here is that Julio wont be relied upon here as much as Williams was there.

Therefore, it would seem more cost effective if the Bucs had spent 5 draft picks on a WR rather than us.

But they didn't need to do that because they did their homework didn't they.

He may not have 11 TD's but he's gonna have a heck of a season. If he doesn't, MM needs to be fired.

So is that how the game is gonna be played?

Dummytrioff makes a fool of this community on draft day. And if the draft pick in question doesn't pan out, it's somebody else whose head will roll.

Wow!

Edited May 16, 2011 by falcon70

[Borat]

Then where is the logic?

It seems that the conclusion to be drawn here is that Julio wont be relied upon here as much as Williams was there.

Therefore, it would seem more cost effective if the Bucs had spent 5 draft picks on a WR than us.

But they didn't need to do that because they did their homework didn't they.

So is that how the game is gonna be played?

Dummytrioff makes a fool of this community on draft day. And if the draft pick in question doesn't pan out, it's somebody else whose head will roll.

Wow!

Man... To bad I came from a Mr. Right post and now I'm out of negs. I could use a few more here...

[Tandy]

Then where is the logic?

It seems that the conclusion to be drawn here is that Julio wont be relied upon here as much as Williams was there.

Therefore, it would seem more cost effective if the Bucs had spent 5 draft picks on a WR than us.

But they didn't need to do that because they did their homework didn't they.

So is that how the game is gonna be played?

Dummytrioff makes a fool of this community on draft day. And if the draft pick in question doesn't pan out, it's somebody else whose head will roll.

Wow!

The logic is in the missing pieces from our offense. The logic is in the explosion and YAC needed to keep up with the high powered offenses that we face year in and year out.

We are not the Bucs. We can't take their picks and say - oh they did this so we should just ignore our game plan. They had some success - so let's just duplicate them and not continue striving towards our end goal.

The decision may prove to be a bad one - or it may prove to be one of the best we've ever made. When Roddy does retire - we have a possible future to put on that side. What he brings to us now is what the FO and coaching staff determined was needed not only to get us to the next step now, but to keep us competitive every year.

So far - they've made us competitive during the season - now they are trying to get us over that hump that keeps us moving forward when the regular season is over.

The front office and coaching staff views the Bucs pick as potential competition we must combat - not a game plan for our success.

[Borat]

Man... To bad I came from a Mr. Right post and now I'm out of negs. I could use a few more here...

No I meant I need some to use on Falcon70. Not on my posts lol

[dirtybird1989]

He was targeted 129 times and had 65 receptions for 50.4%.

No one else on the team was targeted over 40 times - and only 3 were targeted over 9 times. Winslow only had about 3 receptions - so he's not even a factor.

That's not to say he's not good - he was very good - he had a sick average per reception and 11 TD - he's an excellent receiver. That's to say that he was targeted 27.2% of the attempts made by Freeman.

Clearly, he was the #1 target in Tampa.

Here - we had Roddy who is Ryan's #1 target - he was targeted 179 times and had 115 receptions for 64.2%.

Jenkins was targeted 73 times, Harry Douglas 53 times, Finn 31 times, and then Gonzo was targeted 92 times.

I just don't see the same make-up here. I don't think Julio will get 129 targeted passes - but if he does - I hope he has a better reception ratio than Williams and can match the average per receptions.

You put in some research on that +1

[falcon70]

The logic is in the missing pieces from our offense. The logic is in the explosion and YAC needed to keep up with the high powered offenses that we face year in and year out.

We are not the Bucs. We can't take their picks and say - oh they did this so we should just ignore our game plan. They had some success - so let's just duplicate them and not continue striving towards our end goal.

The decision may prove to be a bad one - or it may prove to be one of the best we've ever made. When Roddy does retire - we have a possible future to put on that side. What he brings to us now is what the FO and coaching staff determined was needed not only to get us to the next step now, but to keep us competitive every year.

So far - they've made us competitive during the season - now they are trying to get us over that hump that keeps us moving forward when the regular season is over.

The front office and coaching staff views the Bucs pick as potential competition we must combat - not a game plan for our success.

Huh?

MattyRattic has a PRO-BOWL WR. PRO-BOWL RB. PRO-BOWL/HALL OF FAME (1ST BALLOT) TE. And the highest paid full-back in the game.

If there is a missing piece here, it's not at the WR position, it's behind center.

And then you are still insecure to the point of having to trade 5 picks to draft another WR?

Name the quarterbacks in the league that have that kind of support.

[Knight of God]

I disagree. Just some openings for other players and some explosion. That's all.

[Knight of God]

Huh?

MattyRattic has a PRO-BOWL WR. PRO-BOWL RB. PRO-BOWL/HALL OF FAME (1ST BALLOT) TE. And the highest paid full-back in the game.

If there is a missing piece here, it's not at the WR position, it's behind center.

And then you are still insecure to the point of having to trade 5 picks to draft another WR?

Name the quarterbacks in the league that have that kind of support.

Jones has won an SEC and BCS Championship. I also believe that he was awarded a Rhodes Scholarship as well.

[falcon70]

Jones has won an SEC and BCS Championship. I also believe that he was awarded a Rhodes Scholarship as well.

Name the quarterbacks in the league that have that kind of support.

I have heard of training wheels but this is getting ridiculous.

[Mr Pickle1]

Huh?

MattyRattic has a PRO-BOWL WR. PRO-BOWL RB. PRO-BOWL/HALL OF FAME (1ST BALLOT) TE. And the highest paid full-back in the game.

If there is a missing piece here, it's not at the WR position, it's behind center.

And then you are still insecure to the point of having to trade 5 picks to draft another WR?

Name the quarterbacks in the league that have that kind of support.

I used to be really insecure and and internet tough guy too. Then I turned 13. You'll get there. Although I'm concerned about your unhealthy fixation on Matt Ryan. He's married now, okay...it's not that he doesn't want to write you back, I'm sure your letters just keep getting misplaced.

[Knight of God]

Name the quarterbacks in the league that have that kind of support.

I have heard of training wheels but this is getting ridiculous.

McElroy and JPW must have kissed his feet so often that he finally got a fracture.

[falcon70]

I used to be really insecure and and internet tough guy too. Then I turned 13. You'll get there. Although I'm concerned about your unhealthy fixation on Matt Ryan. He's married now, okay...it's not that he doesn't want to write you back, I'm sure your letters just keep getting misplaced.

Ok... Do me a favor?

Don't ask him to throw an out route at a critical moment during a playoff game ok?

Edited May 16, 2011 by falcon70

[falcon70]

McElroy and JPW must have kissed his feet so often that he finally got a fracture.

I don't speak Spanish.

[Knight of God]

I don't speak Spanish.

LOL!!! +1

[phattywankenobi]

The deal is done. There are no do overs in the draft. The best thing to do is put away the measuring stick. Rookie WR's rarely have huge number and people don't know how to measure the sucess of surrounding players directly contribute to a speedy physical WR and can't be dismissed by putting your LB or nickel back on him.

[Borat]

Huh?

MattyRattic has a PRO-BOWL WR. PRO-BOWL RB. PRO-BOWL/HALL OF FAME (1ST BALLOT) TE. And the highest paid full-back in the game.

If there is a missing piece here, it's not at the WR position, it's behind center.

And then you are still insecure to the point of having to trade 5 picks to draft another WR?

Name the quarterbacks in the league that have that kind of support.

Hey moron. Have you considered that Of those players, only gonzo was a probowler before Matt came? Hmmmmmm....

[falcon70]

The deal is done. There are no do overs in the draft. The best thing to do is put away the measuring stick. Rookie WR's rarely have huge number and people don't know how to measure the sucess of surrounding players directly contribute to a speedy physical WR and can't be dismissed by putting your LB or nickel back on him.

Oh Really?

T. 'troff drops the ball royally and now it's time to put away the measuring stick?

Oh no no no my brother.

We are going back to the scene of the crime.

Trust and believe, I cherish the day when he is backed into a corner with microphones shoved in his face, no falcon logo in sight, and answering some tough questions.

Failure has a price and somebody has got to Pay!

This franchise has been rear ended for the last time!

[Knight of God]

What are we talking about?

[falcon70]

Hey moron. Have you considered that Of those players, only gonzo was a probowler before Matt came? Hmmmmmm....

Son please don't go there. It's grown folk talkin' over here ok.

Roddy White and Turner would be pro bowlers almost any where they played.

[Knight of God]

Son please don't go there. It's grown folk talkin' over here ok.

Roddy White and Turner would be pro bowlers almost any where they played.

That's awesome, they're here and will help us to be better and along with Julio we get even better. Quizz gives us more explosion at the position than we have had sice Norwood was healthy. Its exciting.

[phattywankenobi]

Oh Really?

T. 'troff drops the ball royally and now it's time to put away the measuring stick?

Oh no no no my brother.

We are going back to the scene of the crime.

Trust and believe, I cherish the day when he is backed into a corner with microphones shoved in his face, no falcon logo in sight, and answering some tough questions.

Failure has a price and somebody has got to Pay!

This franchise has been rear ended for the last time!

I am saying I don't think the average fan/poster understands how to properly measure their impact. Ready made fantasy football and Madden stats which completely ignore anything but a singular stat at a time makes the average fan think he knows more than he actually does.