Cris Carter Thinks Nnamdi Asomugha Should Sign With Atlanta

[BucdUp]

Dude, we've swept you guys the last two years. No wins against the Falcons since 2008. If our team sucks so bad, the Bucs should have easily handled them. Nice try though.

Who, besides you, said the Falcons suck? My point was that 3 above .500 seasons in a row don't a "winner" make, in the sense that players will flock to your organization.

[RHEC]

I'd rather sign a DE because a great DE can make your whole defense better but a CB can only make one side of the field better

Well don't expect the top available DE's, their not worthy of a 1st or 2nd round pick.

[blizzard_falcon]

I'd rather sign a DE because a great DE can make your whole defense better but a CB can only make one side of the field better

Asomugha has had 52 passes completed against him in THREE SEASONS. Last year he only allowed FOURTEEN completions... 0 for touchdowns. That is less than one reception allowed per game. This guy doesn't just "make one side of the field better," he basically eliminates the offense on his side of the field. The improvement in the secondary if Robinson became the #2 and Grimes became the nickel back would allow our defensive line to have a field day.

All those times last season that Biermann or Abe or Davis ALMOST got to an opposing quarterback would definitely be sacks this year. I'm confident in saying that adding Nnamdi would boost our sack production by 8-10 and would also improve our scoring defense by 3 points a game.

[alexander1.9.71]

Who, besides you, said the Falcons suck? My point was that 3 above .500 seasons in a row don't a "winner" make, in the sense that players will flock to your organization.

Um...yes it does. We have an elite team now in an elite city. We have an owner willing to spend and a GM willing to make moves. You Bucs have one championship, and with no sarcasm, congrats. But your franchise has sucked since cause you don't know how to build a team. We obviously do. There is no team in the NFL that has as much potential as the Falcons over the next 3-5 years to not just get one championship, maybe more. So yes we look very good to FA. Athletes love living here and all of our other sport teams are very solid (minus the Thrashers). We did get the best tightend of all time to come here, so why not Nnamdi?

[abcranford2]

Who, besides you, said the Falcons suck? My point was that 3 above .500 seasons in a row don't a "winner" make, in the sense that players will flock to your organization.

Well, having the best young qb in the game, along with the best receiver in the game, along with the best young reciever in the game, along with the best te in the history of the nfl, not to mention a pretty darn good running game...yea, i'd say that team is in charlie sheen mode

[THE ICEMAN]

good one Charlie sheen mode

[THE ICEMAN]

But Nnamdi would basically shut down half of the field Biermann is the guy who could benefit the most as his QB hurries/Pressures indicates he should've have had more like 7-10 sacks and not 2 it would also allow the Falcons to Blitz a lot more and that would cause more turn overs when you really think about Nnamdi could make a bigger impact than Ray Edwards simply because he shuts down half of the field but in my opinion it would be a lot of pressure on Kroy Biermann as he would have to have a at worst 7-8 sack year if not better but He11 why not just get them both to be on the safe side as were all playing GM

Edited May 16, 2011 by joe 1982

[alexander1.9.71]

But Nnamdi would basically shut down half of the field Biermann is the guy who could benefit the most as his QB hurries/Pressures indicates he should've have had more like 7-10 sacks and not 2 it would also allow the Falcons to Blitz a lot more and that would cause more turn overs when you really think about Nnamdi could make a bigger impact than Ray Edwards simply because he shuts down half of the field but in my opinion it would be a lot of pressure on Kroy Biermann as he would have to have a at worst 7-8 sack year if not better but **** why not just get them both to be on the safe side as were all playing GM

What no one has discussed here is if Nnamdi did come in what does it do for the other cornerbacks...We know Dunta is a physical guy (see Desean Jackson hit amongst others). Having Nnamdi would not only help our defensive ends tremendously but would free up Dunta for more corner blitzes. Have your safety roll over or Grimes in the nickel for #2 receiver coverage. I look at free agency like the draft when it comes to signing. Our two glaring needs are DE and DB. You have to take the best player available if you can. In this case it is Nnamdi. You just have to hope that it does make our DE's/D line better. It will definitely give us more challenging looks for competing OC's.

Edited May 16, 2011 by alexander1.9.71

[Neki Ecko]

I really that Asomugha will be probably sign with us, I hope. He can help out the defense so much and right now, Falcons is dead serious about getting to the show and they are willing to spend the cash for it. He said that he wants to win now and I think with this team with Grimes and Dunta, he can win.

Also, if we look at our schedule this year, most of our games we will have to face against teams like like to Air it out alot. Josh Freeman (x2), Dree Brees (x2), Jay Culter, Mike Vick, Rogers (yall remember what he did the last time we played him). Yea i think Aso would be Number #1 choice this year to go after.

[ukfalc]

Fine, you win. We won't grab elite FA's, and we will never win a SB. I hope you're happy.

The skins have been a cellar dweller because they suck at drafting, not because they bring in top FA's. They always bring in FA's with character issues, as well. Who promptly stop trying when they get paid.

And yet...year after year, teams like Washington DO bring in top FA's,....the cap is a myth. Even if it DID exist, you could basically just build up to "cap ****" for 5 years, try to win a title, and then blow up the team in one year, and start building again.

As you said, we build through the draft...well, what on earth would stop us CONTINUING to build through the draft? We keep drafting guys. If they're good, and we hope they are, they'll take over for the current players we drafted, at cheaper salaries. Unless you think we're no longer able to build through the draft, in which case our future is "F)_(CKED" anyway, and we might as well go for it all this year?

Resigning your own players is dang near as expensive as bringing in elite FA's. Roddy got a monster deal. It's really not THAT big a difference. Let some of our current players go. Sign some elite FA talent. CONTINUE to build through the draft, so we can afford it.

Yes, escalating cap hits from our players will take up most or all of the saving from turner/etc. But guess what? We're already way under the cap, not near the limit!

Quite frankly, there's no need to "save"...what on earth are we saving for, if not to put together a dominant team and win a championship? How can you be the best team you possibly can be with 40 mill in cap space? That's 3 more probowl caliber FA"s you could add. You can't possibly believe we're better without those players.

How many super bowl winners in the last 20 years were built around expensive elite FA's? The Packers, Patriots, Steelers and Colts weren't. Going back further, neither were the Ravens, Bucs, Broncos or Cowboys.

Only 3 teams in 20 years even come close, any it is highly questionable whether they even qualify. The Rams acquired marshall faulk in free agency, and they wouldn't have won a super bowl without the forture to find a near HOF QB playing in NFL Europe. The Saints acquired Brees in 2005, althouhg he wasn't considered an elite QB or paid like one at the time, so that's a stretch. Maybe you could include the 9ers acquirng Deion, although he wasn't paid elite money either. He took a short term low money deal to play for a neam that a 49er team that was a lock for the NFCCG at the time.

Football is a team game where you need a deep, talented roster to succeed. The problem with the skins, is that they over invest in big name FA's leaving them with insufficient cap space to surround their overpaid stars with the talent to succeed. They have compounded this in recent years by trading high and mid picks away for expensive veterans in pursuit of instant success. A handful of overpaid great players surrounded by trash, will never win a super bowl. The Skins failures are evidence that the cap exist and it punishes teams that recklessly overspend in pursuit of instant success.

Who said anything about "saving" money, or just sitting on a bunch of unused cap room? We will spend up to the cap. Its all a question of how we spend it and who we spend it on. The good teams get value for money in free agency. They find a $6m a season DE who fits their scheme and will give them 8 sacks a year, rathen than spend $15m a year on a guy who will give them 10 sacks - because it leaves them with $9m a season left to keep their best players or to strengthen 1 or 2 other areas of need.

If you want to pay $15m-20m a year for CB who will be 30 before next season starts and who has already given his best years to another team that's fine, but don't complain if it leaves us with a minimum salary OL that can't protect Matt Ryan, or if we can't afford to keep guys like Lofton, Biermann, Decoud, Moore down the line.

[kiwifalcon]

How many super bowl winners in the last 20 years were built around expensive elite FA's? The Packers, Patriots, Steelers and Colts weren't. Going back further, neither were the Ravens, Bucs, Broncos or Cowboys.

Only 3 teams in 20 years even come close, any it is highly questionable whether they even qualify. The Rams acquired marshall faulk in free agency, and they wouldn't have won a super bowl without the forture to find a near HOF QB playing in NFL Europe. The Saints acquired Brees in 2005, althouhg he wasn't considered an elite QB or paid like one at the time, so that's a stretch. Maybe you could include the 9ers acquirng Deion, although he wasn't paid elite money either. He took a short term low money deal to play for a neam that a 49er team that was a lock for the NFCCG at the time.

Football is a team game where you need a deep, talented roster to succeed. The problem with the skins, is that they over invest in big name FA's leaving them with insufficient cap space to surround their overpaid stars with the talent to succeed. They have compounded this in recent years by trading high and mid picks away for expensive veterans in pursuit of instant success. A handful of overpaid great players surrounded by trash, will never win a super bowl. The Skins failures are evidence that the cap exist and it punishes teams that recklessly overspend in pursuit of instant success.

Who said anything about "saving" money, or just sitting on a bunch of unused cap room? We will spend up to the cap. Its all a question of how we spend it and who we spend it on. The good teams get value for money in free agency. They find a $6m a season DE who fits their scheme and will give them 8 sacks a year, rathen than spend $15m a year on a guy who will give them 10 sacks - because it leaves them with $9m a season left to keep their best players or to strengthen 1 or 2 other areas of need.

If you want to pay $15m-20m a year for CB who will be 30 before next season starts and who has already given his best years to another team that's fine, but don't complain if it leaves us with a minimum salary OL that can't protect Matt Ryan, or if we can't afford to keep guys like Lofton, Biermann, Decoud, Moore down the line.

Exactly by making an impulsive move now it can hamstring you going foward and as you mentioned in the next year or 2 the bulk of our core guys drafted 08-09 will need to be resigned great point.I mean that phrase that TD has preached fiscally responsible comes to mind.Now I understand the fanbase wants the win now but I really think the move for Aso is unrealistic and with how we have been built and by looking what how the FO has used FA your reply above basically hits the nail on the head.

[Neki Ecko]

How many super bowl winners in the last 20 years were built around expensive elite FA's? The Packers, Patriots, Steelers and Colts weren't. Going back further, neither were the Ravens, Bucs, Broncos or Cowboys.

Only 3 teams in 20 years even come close, any it is highly questionable whether they even qualify. The Rams acquired marshall faulk in free agency, and they wouldn't have won a super bowl without the forture to find a near HOF QB playing in NFL Europe. The Saints acquired Brees in 2005, althouhg he wasn't considered an elite QB or paid like one at the time, so that's a stretch. Maybe you could include the 9ers acquirng Deion, although he wasn't paid elite money either. He took a short term low money deal to play for a neam that a 49er team that was a lock for the NFCCG at the time.

Football is a team game where you need a deep, talented roster to succeed. The problem with the skins, is that they over invest in big name FA's leaving them with insufficient cap space to surround their overpaid stars with the talent to succeed. They have compounded this in recent years by trading high and mid picks away for expensive veterans in pursuit of instant success. A handful of overpaid great players surrounded by trash, will never win a super bowl. The Skins failures are evidence that the cap exist and it punishes teams that recklessly overspend in pursuit of instant success.

Who said anything about "saving" money, or just sitting on a bunch of unused cap room? We will spend up to the cap. Its all a question of how we spend it and who we spend it on. The good teams get value for money in free agency. They find a $6m a season DE who fits their scheme and will give them 8 sacks a year, rathen than spend $15m a year on a guy who will give them 10 sacks - because it leaves them with $9m a season left to keep their best players or to strengthen 1 or 2 other areas of need.

If you want to pay $15m-20m a year for CB who will be 30 before next season starts and who has already given his best years to another team that's fine, but don't complain if it leaves us with a minimum salary OL that can't protect Matt Ryan, or if we can't afford to keep guys like Lofton, Biermann, Decoud, Moore down the line.

UKFalc,

You got to look at the market right now, besides I understand what you saying that if going for better value but if you can get a person that can make your chance going to Super Bowl much better and a true shut-down corner not since the days of Deion Sanders (I dont believe he was a shut-down but its each its own) then you have to take chances, that is what FA and Draft is all about, its a roll in the Dice.

IMO Aso would look good as a Falcon and he can make this Defense alot better but his price range will be too deep for us.

[unstawpable_falconsfan88]

Exactly by making an impulsive move now it can hamstring you going foward and as you mentioned in the next year or 2 the bulk of our core guys drafted 08-09 will need to be resigned great point.I mean that phrase that TD has preached fiscally responsible comes to mind.Now I understand the fanbase wants the win now but I really think the move for Aso is unrealistic and with how we have been built and by looking what how the FO has used FA your reply above basically hits the nail on the head.

Resigning players wouldnt be a problem if there is no cap going forward. Just looking at the Packers signing another aging player that left OAK, Charles Woodson, who signed with GB at around the age of 30 in 2006. Just look at his impact on that team. Im not going to say Aso is the same type of player, but he can have just as big of an impact. He literally shuts down a side of the field. In games against the top tier teams that we play next year. Imagine not having to worry about a Reggie Wayne, Greg Jennings, etc...