Cris Carter Thinks Nnamdi Asomugha Should Sign With Atlanta

[#1 pick]

This is the one signing I really want. An impact player. We don't have one on defense right now outside of JA55.

[falconsd56]

so you're saying the guy that just traded 4 picks to move up to the 6th spot to draft Julio Jones wouldn't be interested in signing the best cb in the league?? Because thats something he doesn't go for? Really??

Normally I would say paying Aso would go against TD.......but the whole trade goes against tds philosophy.

If/when FA opens I fully expect/hope we are the most aggressive team in league when it comes to going after players.

[peoriabird]

i'm hoping Dunta's play will improve with one year with the team under his belt. i'm more concerned with the DE opposite JA55.. i hope we do sign a top tier DE this free agency

Giving up on Biermann already huh?

[RHEC]

I say we go for him, he would be a huge improvement.

[Tribal Chief]

Why worry about how much money he would demand or get? We just signed Roddy to a fat contract, then got a #6 overall pick. If they don't change the pay for rookies this year, we will have 2 highly paid WR. We only have 3 players making over 50 million. It wouldn't hurt anything if we actually signed him. Last I heard, we had plenty of cap space.

[Shredman]

Grimes it will be hard for him to become an UFA , it could happen under a new cba

right now he is a RFA, we can match any offer or get Picks if he leaves

i do see a chance that they would let grimes walk, and Sign #21

[peoriabird]

Grimes it will be hard for him to become an UFA , it could happen under a new cba

right now he is a RFA, we can match any offer or get Picks if he leaves

i do see a chance that they would let grimes walk, and Sign #21

It would be a mistake to let grimes walk! So I don't see it happening.

[Hezikiah]

I'm just gonna sit back and watch what happens. If they decide to sign Nnamdi, then I'm cool with it. At least we know hes gonna do his job. We would have a very talented secondary I would be eager to watch. That being said, I still don't see how that really improves our pass rush. I've seen some people say "if the secondary is better, then the pass rush will improve". This isn't entirely true in my opinion, it would be more like the lack of pass rush would be hidden by the fact that the secondary is playing better. Kinda like spilling a drink on the floor and just covering it up with a towel...It's still there. Only the need for a better pass won't dry up and go away

[Borat]

I'm just gonna sit back and watch what happens. If they decide to sign Nnamdi, then I'm cool with it. At least we know hes gonna do his job. We would have a very talented secondary I would be eager to watch. That being said, I still don't see how that really improves our pass rush. I've seen some people say "if the secondary is better, then the pass rush will improve". This isn't entirely true in my opinion, it would be more like the lack of pass rush would be hidden by the fact that the secondary is playing better. Kinda like spilling a drink on the floor and just covering it up with a towel...It's still there. Only the need for a better pass won't dry up and go away

Both Units need help, but I think we would be better serves with a Charles Johnson/Jonathan Joseph combo than just asomugha

[Hezikiah]

Both Units need help, but I think we would be better serves with a Charles Johnson/Jonathan Joseph combo than just asomugha

Hey I agree there, that would be just awesome. Now that I think of it though, was Jonathan J. out when we played Cinci? Don't remember seeing him. But yeah like I said that would be awesome, I just don't see it happening. Who knows though

[Borat]

Cowboys or redskins will sign him to an obscene contract. I think we have very little chance at scrabble (sadly)

[ukfalc]

If the whole anti-trust thing goes against the owners, as I suspect it will, they'll be throwing a massive number at the players to close that pandora's box. I could see a 150 Mill cap. It will almost certainly be substantially increased over 2009.

The lockout injucntion will be dealt with fairly quickly, but the anti-trust case won't be going against anyone for a long while. It will take a few years to be concluded unlerss the parties compromise.

Opening up their wallets and going on a mad spending spree would be suicide by the owners, as it would send all of the wrong messages to the players. It would be sending the the message (a) that the owners clearly are making enough money to spend signidficantly more on players (and thus don't need the extra money they are seeking) and ( that an uncapped and unregualted free agency market with no drfat ins in the players best interest as eveidence by the increased spending.

Look back at 2010. It's no coincindence that in an uncapped season spending on players fell. The owners kept a tight grip on the purse strings, because they would have played in to the NFLPA's hands - and lost all leverage in the CBA negotiations - had they embarked on a sending spree.

In any case, ecen if the cap is $150m or $200m.

[THE ICEMAN]

How many times do you have to post to be able to start a new topics? Or what do you have to do to be able to start a new topics? Thanks guys

[ukfalc]

Jenkins, Abe, and Turner will all be coming off the books over the next few years. The salary isn't a static figure that continues to grow if you add players. It'll grow, then shrink, and so on and so forth.

Jenkins, Abe and Gonzo will come off the books, but the increasing cap hits of some of our other players will off-set that. Plus - having built so heavily through the draft in the last 4 years - we have a lot of key players whose contracts will be running out. We could lost 10 starters in the next 12 months and they all have to be re-signed or replaced: and that's before we look at role player like Weems, Wire, Peterson, Snelling, HD. We also have to assume that Matt Ryan is going to get a very large contract extension in the next 2 years.

Adding 1 overpriced elite FA doens't necessarily make you better as a team, especially if/when it prevents you from resigning your best young players (Claybo, Dahl, Grimes, Lofton, Decoud, Biermann etc.).

The team that try to buy titles by overspending on top FA's rarely succeed in the NFL. The Skins have been a cellar dweller for over a decade because they try to do just that. It is no coincidence that the best teams in the NFL don't overspend on elite FA's.

[#1 pick]

Jenkins, Abe and Gonzo will come off the books, but the increasing cap hits of some of our other players will off-set that. Plus - having built so heavily through the draft in the last 4 years - we have a lot of key players whose contracts will be running out. We could lost 10 starters in the next 12 months and they all have to be re-signed or replaced: and that's before we look at role player like Weems, Wire, Peterson, Snelling, HD. We also have to assume that Matt Ryan is going to get a very large contract extension in the next 2 years.

Adding 1 overpriced elite FA doens't necessarily make you better as a team, especially if/when it prevents you from resigning your best young players (Claybo, Dahl, Grimes, Lofton, Decoud, Biermann etc.).

The team that try to buy titles by overspending on top FA's rarely succeed in the NFL. The Skins have been a cellar dweller for over a decade because they try to do just that. It is no coincidence that the best teams in the NFL don't overspend on elite FA's.

Huh? Dude we aren't Fulham in soccer. We actually are trying to win titles. Aso will give us a playmaker. We only have one on defense and he isn't as elite as Aso is.

[kiwifalcon]

UKFalc I gotta agree with you here and I no alot on here want an Aso type palymaker on defense but the FO have always preached fiscal responsibility and I see this year being no different.Think about it if they add Aso with Grimes basically going to be resigned and them paying decent cash for Dunta last year quite possibly we could have $20 mill plus per year tied up in Dunta Grimes and Aso now while at this stage it is still under 2010 uncapped year rule we'd be handicapping ourselves bigtime down the track and by the way this FO works they like to have that element of flexibilty moving foward.

So while Aso would be nice if its goping to cripple us financially no thanks.

[Mr Pickle1]

Jenkins, Abe and Gonzo will come off the books, but the increasing cap hits of some of our other players will off-set that. Plus - having built so heavily through the draft in the last 4 years - we have a lot of key players whose contracts will be running out. We could lost 10 starters in the next 12 months and they all have to be re-signed or replaced: and that's before we look at role player like Weems, Wire, Peterson, Snelling, HD. We also have to assume that Matt Ryan is going to get a very large contract extension in the next 2 years.

Adding 1 overpriced elite FA doens't necessarily make you better as a team, especially if/when it prevents you from resigning your best young players (Claybo, Dahl, Grimes, Lofton, Decoud, Biermann etc.).

The team that try to buy titles by overspending on top FA's rarely succeed in the NFL. The Skins have been a cellar dweller for over a decade because they try to do just that. It is no coincidence that the best teams in the NFL don't overspend on elite FA's.

Fine, you win. We won't grab elite FA's, and we will never win a SB. I hope you're happy.

The skins have been a cellar dweller because they suck at drafting, not because they bring in top FA's. They always bring in FA's with character issues, as well. Who promptly stop trying when they get paid.

And yet...year after year, teams like Washington DO bring in top FA's,....the cap is a myth. Even if it DID exist, you could basically just build up to "cap ****" for 5 years, try to win a title, and then blow up the team in one year, and start building again.

As you said, we build through the draft...well, what on earth would stop us CONTINUING to build through the draft? We keep drafting guys. If they're good, and we hope they are, they'll take over for the current players we drafted, at cheaper salaries. Unless you think we're no longer able to build through the draft, in which case our future is "F)_(CKED" anyway, and we might as well go for it all this year?

Resigning your own players is dang near as expensive as bringing in elite FA's. Roddy got a monster deal. It's really not THAT big a difference. Let some of our current players go. Sign some elite FA talent. CONTINUE to build through the draft, so we can afford it.

Yes, escalating cap hits from our players will take up most or all of the saving from turner/etc. But guess what? We're already way under the cap, not near the limit!

Quite frankly, there's no need to "save"...what on earth are we saving for, if not to put together a dominant team and win a championship? How can you be the best team you possibly can be with 40 mill in cap space? That's 3 more probowl caliber FA"s you could add. You can't possibly believe we're better without those players.

[Mr Pickle1]

Namdi would make a bigger impact on D than all of Lofton/Grimes/Biermann/Decould combined, assuming you replaced them with replacement level guys.

[Mr Pickle1]

UKFalc I gotta agree with you here and I no alot on here want an Aso type palymaker on defense but the FO have always preached fiscal responsibility and I see this year being no different.Think about it if they add Aso with Grimes basically going to be resigned and them paying decent cash for Dunta last year quite possibly we could have $20 mill plus per year tied up in Dunta Grimes and Aso now while at this stage it is still under 2010 uncapped year rule we'd be handicapping ourselves bigtime down the track and by the way this FO works they like to have that element of flexibilty moving foward.

So while Aso would be nice if its goping to cripple us financially no thanks.

Look:

1. If we got Namdi, we wouldn't resign grimes. It would be a trade. A trade WAY up.

2. Flexibility for what? If you're always looking to maintain that flexibility, it means you never USED the flexibility in any real way. Adding the best player at his position in the NFL is exactly the sort of thing we were maintaining our CURRENT flexibility for. And like it or not, even adding a 10 mill a year guy would NOT "cripple us". Lol. And even if it did, just cut him one year, take the hit, and then he's off the books. It's not like baseball or bball where small market teams who get stuck with a guy just can't do anything. It might be painful in the short term, but you can quickly improve your cap situation in the NFL.

3. We want to win a championship, not just be consistently good. You either have to take some chances to do that, or be insanely lucky.

4. The FO actually isn't preaching "fiscal responsibility" this year. They're preaching "aggression." In the draft. In FA. On the field. No more weak loser moves, like "oh no, we might lose some of cap flexibility by adding one of the 10 best players in the NFL...I"m scared....Dimitroff hold me." Weak. Scared. Loser. We aren't going to play that game anymore, despite some fan's fascination with saving Arther Blank's money. We actually intend to win a playoff game.

[ltstorm2]

Huh? Dude we aren't Fulham in soccer. We actually are trying to win titles. Aso will give us a playmaker. We only have one on defense and he isn't as elite as Aso is.

Actually Nnamdi is the exact opposite of a playmaker. He is an extremely good corner back, but he's not a playmaker and its not his fault. He had zero INT's zero sacks and 19 total tackles for the year. Asomugha is absolutely not a playmaker but **** I love his stat line. 19 Tackles for the year????? that's a little more than one tackle a game. I'd like to know how many hundreds of thousands of dollars he made per tackle. Anyways that spells shut down corner to me.

Asomugha - 19

Grimes - 87

Robinson - 55

[d#d#d#]

Aso would of been nice to have 3 years ago... He just came off of a 15M per year contract(which he'll want again), is 30 years of age and will be courted by Snyder/Jones etc. Not to mention we will have a chit ton of money tied up at CB and no money for anywhere else on the team.

We havnt got a hope in **** of signing him.

Edited May 15, 2011 by d#d#d#

[dmo_dlo]

The only way this could happen is if we intend to trade Grimes to get back into 1st round next year or for a pass rush player. For example, trading Grimes to Houston for Williams may work for both teams. I know they have talked about moving Williams to OLB and drafted two CBs this year but they would seriously consider a probowl playmaking CB. Remember that if 2010 rules stay, a trade could well be the only way to get a reliable DE.

[Zodiac]

Cowboys or redskins will sign him to an obscene contract. I think we have very little chance at scrabble (sadly)

Asomugha stated he onlyw ants to play with teams that have strong DB cores

AKA not the Redskins or Cowboys

[FalconFromSpain]

The only way this could happen is if we intend to trade Grimes to get back into 1st round next year or for a pass rush player. For example, trading Grimes to Houston for Williams may work for both teams. I know they have talked about moving Williams to OLB and drafted two CBs this year but they would seriously consider a probowl playmaking CB. Remember that if 2010 rules stay, a trade could well be the only way to get a reliable DE.

I will sign this every day of the week, if we got nmadi and mario for grimes, i know 1 signed and the other vie trade, wow that would be amazing, but i would be surprised if the texans traded supermario for only 1 player and that being grimes.

Edited May 15, 2011 by FalconFromSpain

[SIR.BLOGS ALOT]

The Falcons would never do this. When was the last time we signed a top tiered FA? Julius Peppers?

Albeit our defense would improve dramatically with Nnamdi locking down the number one WR. We can put Grimes at number 2 and Robinson in the slot (although he'd be an expensive slot CB). Then we could roll over a safety to help Grimes over the top, which is where he gets beat most of the time, i.e. have the safety lay the WR out when someone tries to throw a jump ball to Grimes' side.'

We can leave Nnamdi on a island.

Yea i did'nt think we would sign him either, but i also did'nt think we would trade up 21 spots and get a great WR in the draft. You never know what TD and coach smith is brewing up.