Cris Carter Thinks Nnamdi Asomugha Should Sign With Atlanta

[Zodiac]

I hope your right. If we could add those two, bundle that with Julio and Quizz bolstering our offense and we have to be one of the leadrunners for the Lombardi.

Any chance you can provide that Pat Y link?

It was a while back let me see if I can find it.

[paulitik]

I have to be honest, I'd rather overpay for Asomugha, than overpay for Ray Edwards. We know what Asomugha brings. We are not sure how Edwards plays without Jared Allen and the Williams wall lined up with him.

If we can get Babin for a cheaper, shorter contract, let Sid and Kroy developand get Asomugha, I'd be fine with that.

Then we can rotate our DBs in and out of the nickel depending on the situation. Just a thought.

[Game Blouses™]

It was a while back let me see if I can find it.

hey i saw this before he says we r at 97 mill

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcsouth/post/_/id/17742/nfc-south-2011-salary-cap-figures

[Zodiac]

I hope your right. If we could add those two, bundle that with Julio and Quizz bolstering our offense and we have to be one of the leadrunners for the Lombardi.

Any chance you can provide that Pat Y link?

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/35721/nfc-south-2011-salary-cap-figures

here it is,

the Leauge Average is around 97 Mil, and Pat Y said he expects it to be anywhere from 140 Mil to 150 Mil

he said we're slight above that, I'm guessing 1 or 2 Mil above that, if we count retirement, and palyers we know are leaving such as Finn, and Clabo. I think I averaged it out to our best case scenario being about 56 Mil.

Realistically we could have anywhere from 49-59 Mil In cap space if a new CBA is signed, like let's say if they put it at 150 Mil, Im guessing were at 99 Mil in cap space. Including FAs leaving, Clabo, Koenen, Nicolas(im guessing he's the odd man out) and Finneran, I think thats around 5-6 Mil combined which would drop us to about 93 Mil in space, so if they set is at 150 Mil cap space, realistically our best case scenarios starting out FA would be 56-57 mil in cap space, including roster cuts pushing up around the 60 Mils.

Like I said this is me speculating. Pat Y just throws averages out there.

[Zodiac]

hey i saw this before he says we r at 97 mill

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcsouth/post/_/id/17742/nfc-south-2011-salary-cap-figures

97 Mil towards cap, where if the 2011 rules are in place the Cap base would be anywhere from 140 Mil and 150 Mil

Subtract that and we have around 49-57 Mil depending on where it's set.

We cartinaly dont have 97 mil in cap space lol

[Game Blouses™]

97 Mil towards cap, where if the 2011 rules are in place the Cap base would be anywhere from 140 Mil and 150 Mil

Subtract that and we have around 49-57 Mil depending on where it's set.

We cartinaly dont have 97 mil in cap space lol

lol yeh man thats what i meant i just didnt type it out right to explain it better

Edited May 14, 2011 by sspeedd23

[an2rew27]

i'm hoping Dunta's play will improve with one year with the team under his belt. i'm more concerned with the DE opposite JA55.. i hope we do sign a top tier DE this free agency

[*TMo*]

Nnamdi rather sign with Packers or Jets then with us.

Why?

[DirtyNastyBird]

On NFL Live, an ESPN program, analyst Cris Carter thinks that the Atlanta Falcons would be the best fit for free-agent corner Nnamdi Asomugha. This is a big statement, because if it were to happen it would create all sorts of problems on the depth chart.

I look for the Atlanta Falcons. They traded most of their draft picks to move up in the draft because they had a player they targeted in Julio Jones. Now they need to address their defensive needs, especially their secondary. He [Asomugha] would give them the ability to play zone coverage and man, which most teams don't have because they don't have versatility at the corner-back spot.

While Carter makes a great point that having versatility opens up the playbook defensively, I still have no idea how this would go down with Dunta Robinson and Brent Grimes. The depth chart would be messed up with Grimes most likely being demoted to the nickel spot which would upset him a great deal because he's been terrific at intercepting passes.

Demote Robinson? Then you've upsetted your big, free-agent signing from a year before, limiting his playing time. This would never happen unless Brent Grimes left the football team. I don't see that happening any time soon because just recently he was training with Matt Ryan and the guys at a local high school.

Carter had more to say though:

The Philadelphia's and Atlanta's, I think because he's been in Oakland and hasn't played on that high level like were used to seeing great players. I think he wants that stage.

The Falcons have more pressing issues, mainly at the Defensive End position. Atlanta has been linked to Ray Edwards and Charles Johnson two highly sought after, potential free-agents.

http://atlanta.sbnation.com/2011/5/14/2170506/cris-carter-thinks-nnamdi-asomugha-should-sign-with-atlanta

OMG, if this happens i will sh** my self..... GO GET HIM TD!

[youngbloodz]

Aso would be a huge get for us. He instantly improves our pass rush without even getting a DE. QBs just don't throw to his side. I would love to get him but I doubt it happens

[Zodiac]

Aso would be a huge get for us. He instantly improves our pass rush without even getting a DE. QBs just don't throw to his side. I would love to get him but I doubt it happens

Blank has made it clear he's willing to spend the money.

Aso has also stated he wants to go to teams with Strong Corners already there, like the Jets and Packers, niether the packers and jets can afford him though.

Well the Jets can, but they'd probably have to give up Cromartie, edwards, and Holmes to get the money for him.

We have 2 Probowl corners on our team, realistically I think we're his third choice.

[Borat]

Have him lock the #1 down, give Dunta free reign to play his aggressive pressing style and smash the #2. That would force the ball to grimes in the slot- not a good thong for opposing qbs!

[d#d#d#]

In an uncapped year and a front loaded contract, who knows?

[Zodiac]

Have him lock the #1 down, give Dunta free reign to play his aggressive pressing style and smash the #2. That would force the ball to grimes in the slot- not a good thong for opposing qbs!

This, **** this would allow us to play Dent and Lofton full time to support the Run D.

As we could technically use Asomugha at the FS position too.

so it's basically pick your poision.

[youngbloodz]

Hey I'm all for Aso. I think he is the best corner in the NFL. I hope we get him

[kiwifalcon]

Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE to have Nnamdi. Just don't think it will work fiscally. We just paid Dunte a huge contract and another premier CB is risky, financially. What if we went a different path and did something like this. Good, young, lot's of upside... sign Cullen Jenkins DE Green Bay. Josh Wilson DB Baltimore, Owens out. I have faith Robinson will play better this year and I am more than cool with Grimes. I would love to sign Trueblood RT (Boston College, 2nd round pick) from the Bucs. This would help with draft picks lost without as much risk as drafting.

I'm with you here the rumour mill is in fully blowing to much with this ASO business I see in no way we'll be giving up that much in 1 position I think ASO will be after a min. of 12-13 mill per season and to remember if we were to do this I'm sorry but Grimes would be gone as he is negotiating a contract aswell so porientially we would have upwards of 20 mill per invested in 3 CB's nah it's not happening.But I could live with the Ray Edwards or Charles Johnson LDE FA move and throw in Josh Wilson I like alot but I'm afraid the ASO move is just not what TD will go for.

[I Even Bleed Red]

Yes, NA is one of the best in the league. Yes, that will make us the best secondary in the NFL. No, we're not gonna go after him! Don't get me wrong, I would love to have him, but we made it clear last year that DR is our primary CB when we signed him to a lucrative contract. I don't wanna be the party pooper, but sorry I doubt this will happen. I know it's exciting to pretend, however, let us not forget about reality.

Edited May 14, 2011 by I Even Bleed Red

[phattywankenobi]

What's good for Nnamdi obviously isn't good for the Falcons.

[iDash]

U Tell them Chris!

[Borat]

What's good for Nnamdi obviously isn't good for the Falcons.

It could be (but probably isn't)

[ukfalc]

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/35721/nfc-south-2011-salary-cap-figures

here it is,

the Leauge Average is around 97 Mil, and Pat Y said he expects it to be anywhere from 140 Mil to 150 Mil

he said we're slight above that, I'm guessing 1 or 2 Mil above that, if we count retirement, and palyers we know are leaving such as Finn, and Clabo. I think I averaged it out to our best case scenario being about 56 Mil.

Realistically we could have anywhere from 49-59 Mil In cap space if a new CBA is signed, like let's say if they put it at 150 Mil, Im guessing were at 99 Mil in cap space. Including FAs leaving, Clabo, Koenen, Nicolas(im guessing he's the odd man out) and Finneran, I think thats around 5-6 Mil combined which would drop us to about 93 Mil in space, so if they set is at 150 Mil cap space, realistically our best case scenarios starting out FA would be 56-57 mil in cap space, including roster cuts pushing up around the 60 Mils.

Like I said this is me speculating. Pat Y just throws averages out there.

I think that is being hugley optimistic.

We are currently committed to at or just under $100m in 2011. In the last capped year, 2009, the cap was $128m.

There is no way that the cap increases by over 15% fom the 2009 number, to 150m. The whole CBA dispute is about the owners clawing money back from the players. If you believe the NFLPA, the owners' proposals would result in the cap falling by as much as $10m, altough l've seen some suggestion that the 2011 cap figure would be about the same as 2009. I suspect that the end result will probably be a modest increase to about $135m or so.

The $100m doesn't include anything for Snelling, Claybo, Dahl, Nicholas, Peterson, Grimes, Weems or the other FA's that we could stand to lose. Up to 10 of our starters could be lost to retirement or free agancy in the next 12 months. With that many players to re-sign or replace (an no 1st or 4th round picks next year to help reppace any losss), I don't expect to sink all out money in to 1 or 2 elite FA's. If we do, we will almost certainly leave gaping holes elsewhere in the roster as a result of doing so.

This FO badly want to win, but they also recognise that we need to be prudent enough financially to remain competitive over the medium/long term, rather than totally selling out for a 1 or 2 year push.

[Mr Pickle1]

I think that is being hugley optimistic.

We are currently committed to at or just under $100m in 2011. In the last capped year, 2009, the cap was $128m.

There is no way that the cap increases by over 15% fom the 2009 number, to 150m. The whole CBA dispute is about the owners clawing money back from the players. If you believe the NFLPA, the owners' proposals would result in the cap falling by as much as $10m, altough l've seen some suggestion that the 2011 cap figure would be about the same as 2009. I suspect that the end result will probably be a modest increase to about $135m or so.

The $100m doesn't include anything for Snelling, Claybo, Dahl, Nicholas, Peterson, Grimes, Weems or the other FA's that we could stand to lose. Up to 10 of our starters could be lost to retirement or free agancy in the next 12 months. With that many players to re-sign or replace (an no 1st or 4th round picks next year to help reppace any losss), I don't expect to sink all out money in to 1 or 2 elite FA's. If we do, we will almost certainly leave gaping holes elsewhere in the roster as a result of doing so.

This FO badly want to win, but they also recognise that we need to be prudent enough financially to remain competitive over the medium/long term, rather than totally selling out for a 1 or 2 year push.

If the whole anti-trust thing goes against the owners, as I suspect it will, they'll be throwing a massive number at the players to close that pandora's box. I could see a 150 Mill cap. It will almost certainly be substantially increased over 2009.

[Mr Pickle1]

I think that is being hugley optimistic.

We are currently committed to at or just under $100m in 2011. In the last capped year, 2009, the cap was $128m.

There is no way that the cap increases by over 15% fom the 2009 number, to 150m. The whole CBA dispute is about the owners clawing money back from the players. If you believe the NFLPA, the owners' proposals would result in the cap falling by as much as $10m, altough l've seen some suggestion that the 2011 cap figure would be about the same as 2009. I suspect that the end result will probably be a modest increase to about $135m or so.

The $100m doesn't include anything for Snelling, Claybo, Dahl, Nicholas, Peterson, Grimes, Weems or the other FA's that we could stand to lose. Up to 10 of our starters could be lost to retirement or free agancy in the next 12 months. With that many players to re-sign or replace (an no 1st or 4th round picks next year to help reppace any losss), I don't expect to sink all out money in to 1 or 2 elite FA's. If we do, we will almost certainly leave gaping holes elsewhere in the roster as a result of doing so.

This FO badly want to win, but they also recognise that we need to be prudent enough financially to remain competitive over the medium/long term, rather than totally selling out for a 1 or 2 year push.

Jenkins, Abe, and Turner will all be coming off the books over the next few years. The salary isn't a static figure that continues to grow if you add players. It'll grow, then shrink, and so on and so forth.

[Borat]

Honestly, I'm still pretty POed that we didn't wait for Aso last year. We could be giving his money to scrabble right now...

[abcranford2]

I'm with you here the rumour mill is in fully blowing to much with this ASO business I see in no way we'll be giving up that much in 1 position I think ASO will be after a min. of 12-13 mill per season and to remember if we were to do this I'm sorry but Grimes would be gone as he is negotiating a contract aswell so porientially we would have upwards of 20 mill per invested in 3 CB's nah it's not happening.But I could live with the Ray Edwards or Charles Johnson LDE FA move and throw in Josh Wilson I like alot but I'm afraid the ASO move is just not what TD will go for.

so you're saying the guy that just traded 4 picks to move up to the 6th spot to draft Julio Jones wouldn't be interested in signing the best cb in the league?? Because thats something he doesn't go for? Really??