HashMark Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Jamie Dukes ...Wait for it ... Giving us Huge Props I Had to Rewind it!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HouTexFalcon Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Jamie Dukes ...Wait for it ... Giving us Huge Props I Had to Rewind it!!!Didn't get a chance to see it. What was he saying about us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banned Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 (edited) The reason Joe Flacco does not anticipate where he is going to throw the ball is become he has a big arm so the ball gets there on time. Whereas Matt Ryan has to compensate for his lack of arm strength by anticipating where the receiver is going to be. I'm not saying Ice has a weak arm just not as strong as Flacco's.Haters gonna hate. Edited May 11, 2011 by Adenusi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIR.BLOGS ALOT Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Jamie Dukes ...Wait for it ... Giving us Huge Props I Had to Rewind it!!!Hey i just started an account and it will not let me start a new topic. can anyone help me out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Zodiac Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 The reason Joe Flacco does not anticipate where he is going to throw the ball is become he has a big arm so the ball gets there on time. Whereas Matt Ryan has to compensate for his lack of arm strength by anticipating where the receiver is going to be. I'm not saying Ice has a weak arm just not as strong as Flacco's.Umm Flacco throws many more Ints because he doesn't anticipate and trys to squeeze balls into coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karst41 Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 The reason Joe Flacco does not anticipate where he is going to throw the ball is become he has a big arm so the ball gets there on time. Whereas Matt Ryan has to compensate for his lack of arm strength by anticipating where the receiver is going to be. I'm not saying Ice has a weak arm just not as strong as Flacco's.The above statement is exactly why Ryan is the better QB.Anticipation is everything....! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don™ Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Hey i just started an account and it will not let me start a new topic. can anyone help me out?Gotta have 100 posts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulitik Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Here's the LINK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandy Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Give him Peyton's line if they want him to become a passer like Peyton. How silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuswap Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Hey i just started an account and it will not let me start a new topic. can anyone help me out?+1 for the bad *** name !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific_Falcon Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 +1 for the bad *** name !!!To **** with the Vancouver Canucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KANE337 Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 I luv Matt Ryan but he needs to be able to keep defenses honest by throwing the deep ball occasionally. The Falcons don't do that enough IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 The reason Joe Flacco does not anticipate where he is going to throw the ball is become he has a big arm so the ball gets there on time. Whereas Matt Ryan has to compensate for his lack of arm strength by anticipating where the receiver is going to be. I'm not saying Ice has a weak arm just not as strong as Flacco's.But anticipation throws is what makes Peyton Manning and Brady as good as they are... The arm size doesnt matter... anticipation throws are nearly impossible for DB's to read because they are paying attention to the WR and/or their backs are turned... Doesnt have to do with arm strength at all.. It has to do with knowing the scheme, the game, and your WR'sHaving a rocket arm is awesome... But that has nothing to do with what Dukes was talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistermist Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 To **** with the Vancouver Canucks.To **** with you good sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandy Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 But anticipation throws is what makes Peyton Manning and Brady as good as they are... The arm size doesnt matter... anticipation throws are nearly impossible for DB's to read because they are paying attention to the WR and/or their backs are turned... Doesnt have to do with arm strength at all.. It has to do with knowing the scheme, the game, and your WR'sHaving a rocket arm is awesome... But that has nothing to do with what Dukes was talking about.I agree. What Jamie was saying is that anticipation throws are not something you can learn. You can strengthen your arm - you can correct your mechanics - but there are some intangibles which can't be learned. The ability to anticipate the actions and reactions of the defense and your receiver and make the throw before the guy even starts his break - so that the ball is there when the receiver does get there - that is something special that can not be learned. We are lucky we have him. I know a lot of Falcon fans don't appreciate what we have yet - but I really believe this kid is the one who will finally land us the Lombardi. I really do and that's one of the reasons I support him so strongly. Falcon fans - especially the long time fans who have suffered through so much with this team - regardless of how they feel about Ryan - deserve to see this team finally bring home the prize. When I support, root for and argue about Ryan - I do it as much for what I believe he's going to bring to us fans - on every side of the argument as anything else. He has IT. He's going to use IT to get us what we long for the most from this team. I truly believe that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banned Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 The reason Joe Flacco does not anticipate where he is going to throw the ball is become he has a big arm so the ball gets there on time. Whereas Matt Ryan has to compensate for his lack of arm strength by anticipating where the receiver is going to be. I'm not saying Ice has a weak arm just not as strong as Flacco's.I like Matt Ryan's anticipation better than Flak's arm anyday because it results in less int's and the ball is placed correctly I was just making a point as to why Joe Flacco does not have that anticipation that Matt Ryan does is because he does not need it. I guess some people only hear what they want to hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandy Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 I like Matt Ryan's anticipation better than Flak's arm anyday because it results in less int's and the ball is placed correctly I was just making a point as to why Joe Flacco does not have that anticipation that Matt Ryan does is because he does not need it. I guess some people only hear what they want to hear.I don't think that is what he was responding to though.Anticipation is not as much a learned skill, but more of a trait. Regardless of arm strength - you have it or you don't. There have been big armed QB's with great anticipation and touch and guys without the arm so much who couldn't anticipate where and when the receiver would break and where and when they would end up at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karst41 Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 I don't think that is what he was responding to though.Anticipation is not as much a learned skill, but more of a trait. Regardless of arm strength - you have it or you don't. There have been big armed QB's with great anticipation and touch and guys without the arm so much who couldn't anticipate where and when the receiver would break and where and when they would end up at all.HOWEVERThrough proper mentoring, and a willingness to learn (humble), anticipation canbe acquired,This also requires a relentless work ethic and extra hours of practice.At this point through high repetition, any looks no matter how subtleare then recognized by the athlete and then anticipation has been learnedto either a greater or lesser degree depending on the individual.This also depends on who is doing the mentoring.What play into Matt Ryan's mindset is the Brat will be giving Matt some newPoints of View to add to his skill set.Even if it is a minor detail, it will pay off.I would also venture to say that Flacco has the desire to compete and become a better QBand sooner or later he will have "It" too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 I agree. What Jamie was saying is that anticipation throws are not something you can learn. You can strengthen your arm - you can correct your mechanics - but there are some intangibles which can't be learned. The ability to anticipate the actions and reactions of the defense and your receiver and make the throw before the guy even starts his break - so that the ball is there when the receiver does get there - that is something special that can not be learned. We are lucky we have him. I know a lot of Falcon fans don't appreciate what we have yet - but I really believe this kid is the one who will finally land us the Lombardi. I really do and that's one of the reasons I support him so strongly. Falcon fans - especially the long time fans who have suffered through so much with this team - regardless of how they feel about Ryan - deserve to see this team finally bring home the prize. When I support, root for and argue about Ryan - I do it as much for what I believe he's going to bring to us fans - on every side of the argument as anything else. He has IT. He's going to use IT to get us what we long for the most from this team. I truly believe that.I agree... I dont think some appreciate what we have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karst41 Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 I agree... I dont think some appreciate what we haveRyan is great and he is learning and like Peyton and Brady, hisentire career will be that of constant learning and perfecting his craft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandy Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 HOWEVERThrough proper mentoring, and a willingness to learn (humble), anticipation canbe acquired,This also requires a relentless work ethic and extra hours of practice.At this point through high repetition, any looks no matter how subtleare then recognized by the athlete and then anticipation has been learnedto either a greater or lesser degree depending on the individual.This also depends on who is doing the mentoring.What play into Matt Ryan's mindset is the Brat will be giving Matt some newPoints of View to add to his skill set.Even if it is a minor detail, it will pay off.I would also venture to say that Flacco has the desire to compete and become a better QBand sooner or later he will have "It" too. Most traits can be acquired - that is true - but only to a certain degree. The intangibles they speak of - the natural ability of a player - is not something that is learned - but can be honed and mimicked through hard work and training.Being a great leader is a natural trait of most - but everyone can learn the skill to a degree. Training a natural behavior or trait will result in greatness while learning an unnatural skill will result in being able to mimic the ability to varying degrees.I can learn to play basketball - practice hard every day for hours on end - train under the best in the business - and become very good at it. I will never, however, be Jordan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Ryan is great and he is learning and like Peyton and Brady, hisentire career will be that of constant learning and perfecting his craft.I agree......just would like to see Ryan develop a little bit more arm strength on his longer throws.The night before the Falcons drafted Matt Ryan, Mayock compared Matt to Tom Brady and said, through hard work Brady developed his arm strength when his was not the best coming out of Michigan.I have not seen a dramatic improvement of Matt's arm strength yet - hoping it comes soon. If Matt can get his arm strength up to Tom Brady's(which is very good by the way), then you truly, at that point, are talking about Matt Ryan being an upper-tier QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychic Gibbon Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 I think he finally has the offense he needs to really take the next step. Jones will take a great deal of pressure off of White and will give Ryan a #2 WR who can beat his match up when left in 1-on-1 match ups more often than not which will give Ryan a powerful one-two punch just with the starting receivers. Focus will shift to both sides of the field to try to stop this which opens the inside for Gonzalez and the other tight ends or for Jenkins, who will be much more effective in the slots where he can take advantage of match ups against nickel backs and OLBs, Douglas, and the other receivers in the slots to pick up a good deal of YAC there. Likewise, the box won't be constantly stuffed which will help the O-line with its blocking schemes and open up holes for the running game which will help Turner, Snelling, and now Rodgers a great deal.The front office gave up a good deal to get him but Jones really does push the offense over the edge. Both portions of the offense are huge threats and those NFL Network guys were right; Defenses will either have to try to stop one or the other to slow the Falcons down but at the risk of being torched by the other. I fully expect Ryan to pass for over 4,000 yards and 34 TDs, mostly because he seems to have a trend of throwing six more TDs than the previous season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Right Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Elite QBs like Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, and Drew Brees win playoff games and Superbowls. I don't know how Ryan got put into that group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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