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browns: "We have the number 6 pick in the draft and will entertain offers for it"

falcons: "We will give you our first, second and fouth this year...and our first and fourt next year for that #6 pick"

browns: "DEAL!!!"

Question: How many picks did the falcons give to the browns for that #6 pick?

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1. #27 this year

2. #59 this year

3. #124 this year

4. First round next year

5. Fourth round next year

How is this even debateable? They traded 5 picks to the browns for the #6 pick.

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browns: "We have the number 6 pick in the draft and will entertain offers for it"

falcons: "We will give you our first, second and fouth this year...and our first and fourt next year for that #6 pick"

browns: "DEAL!!!"

Question: How many picks did the falcons give to the browns for that #6 pick?

Answer (typing very slowly):

1. #27 this year

2. #59 this year

3. #124 this year

4. First round next year

5. Fourth round next year

How is this even debateable? They traded 5 picks to the browns for the #6 pick.

yes and got one in return.

good God...how is anybody having trouble with this?

the Falcons sent 5 picks to the Browns and got one back. that is a NET LOSS of 4 picks to the Browns.

Then they used that one pick to get JJ.

in summation, 4 NET picks lost to Cleveland. 5 total picks spent to get JJ.

and 5 total picks to get the second best of anything in the draft is too damned much IMO

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lets see if they can do with them what TD did in 08....

Jury still out on this deal

If Jones and Rodgers have a big impact, all this will be forgotten

if those 2 players give everything they got , with the team they are on, by oct this will be a dead issue

either way even if they bust

its not gonna set Falcons back 4 yrs like it would most teams because falcons are already stacked with young signed pro bowl type talent,

it could have been a bad move,

we better win i know that lol

ppl are saying Super Bowl or Bust

I feel more like its a playoff game win or Bust

Falcons Window is not even fully open yet much less starting to Close

To Me Falcons look like a Team that can Compete for the Super Bowl not only this yr, but for yrs to come

guess we will see

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yes and got one in return.

good God...how is anybody having trouble with this?

the Falcons sent 5 picks to the Browns and got one back. that is a NET LOSS of 4 picks to the Browns.

Then they used that one pick to get JJ.

in summation, 4 NET picks lost to Cleveland. 5 total picks spent to get JJ.

and 5 total picks to get the second best of anything in the draft is too damned much IMO

And the phrase people use is "The Falcons gave 5 picks to the Browns to get JJ.". And that is accurate. /end argument.

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And the phrase people use is "The Falcons gave 5 picks to the Browns to get JJ.". And that is accurate. /end argument.

since you are looking to get technical about it, no it is not accurate.

your statement would indicate that JJ was a Cleveland Brown and that the Falcons gave the Browns 5 picks to acquire him.

your end was premature to say the least. hope that isn't a habitual problem :D

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since you are looking to get technical about it, no it is not accurate.

your statement would indicate that JJ was a Cleveland Brown and that the Falcons gave the Browns 5 picks to acquire him.

your end was premature to say the least. hope that isn't a habitual problem :D

Not necessarily. If it was the falcons intent to get the #6 only to acquire Jones, then not only is that statement accurate, it is a fact. They gave up five (5) draft picks to the browns to get Jones, unless all they wanted was the #6 pick with no certain player in mind. Do you think the falcons were making that move to draft anyone other than Jones? If so, you may have a decent argument but if not, bradael's end appears to be not premature but overdue. Way overdue.

Seems like you agree:

in summation, 4 NET picks lost to Cleveland. 5 total picks spent to get JJ.

From 3 or 4 or maybe 5 posts above. I'm not going to actually count and say for sure, that's a sure fire debate around here.

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lets see if they can do with them what TD did in 08....

Jury still out on this deal

If Jones and Rodgers have a big impact, all this will be forgotten

if those 2 players give everything they got , with the team they are on, by oct this will be a dead issue

either way even if they bust

its not gonna set Falcons back 4 yrs like it would most teams because falcons are already stacked with young signed pro bowl type talent,

it could have been a bad move,

we better win i know that lol

ppl are saying Super Bowl or Bust

I feel more like its a playoff game win or Bust

Falcons Window is not even fully open yet much less starting to Close

To Me Falcons look like a Team that can Compete for the Super Bowl not only this yr, but for yrs to come

guess we will see

What??? You must be basing this on Ryan only going into his 4th year. Which in itself is extremely puzzling seeing as he's nothing more than a game manager.

What about Turner? What about Gonzalez? What about Abraham? Just to mention a few. It's pretty obvious TD & Artie believe the time is now! Truth is, if you all don't win a Super Bowl this season or next you might as well resign your self to the fact that it's highly unlikely you will for another 10 to 20 years.tongue.gif

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What??? You must be basing this on Ryan only going into his 4th year. Which in itself is extremely puzzling seeing as he's nothing more than a game manager.

What about Turner? What about Gonzalez? What about Abraham? Just to mention a few. It's pretty obvious TD & Artie believe the time is now! Truth is, if you all don't win a Super Bowl this season or next you might as well resign your self to the fact that it's highly unlikely you will for another 10 to 20 years.tongue.gif

It's the same false argument JB that they use saying they are so young. The only team in the NFCS OLDER than them is the Saints and that's just barely. They are the 19th youngest team, which puts them well past the middle of 32 teams. As a matter of fact, only 6 teams in the NFC were OLDER than them heading into 2010. Falcon fans have a problem, and that problem is that they think if they repeat it enough times it's true. " we're a young team!" " we're on the cusp of a Super Bowl" " we are elite at every position!" a 13-3 record is a guarantee of a beter record next year. "

But truth? The Falcons went into 2010 older than Tampa, Carolina, Dallas, NY Giants, Philly, Green Bay, Chicago and 11 other NFL teams, Oh but they are younguns on the cusp! :lol:

the oldest younguns.

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Not necessarily. If it was the falcons intent to get the #6 only to acquire Jones, then not only is that statement accurate, it is a fact. They gave up five (5) draft picks to the browns to get Jones, unless all they wanted was the #6 pick with no certain player in mind. Do you think the falcons were making that move to draft anyone other than Jones? If so, you may have a decent argument but if not, bradael's end appears to be not premature but overdue. Way overdue.

1)doesn't matter who Atlanta intended to draft. The trade for picks and the drafting of the player are two separate and distinct actions, not one.

2)does anybody understand the concept of net loss?

the Saints had a net loss of 1 draft pick as they sent 2 to New England and got one in return. They then used that 1 return pick to get Ingram which means we used two total picks to get Ingram

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It's semantics really...

Six of one, half a dozen of another...

To-may-to, To-mah-to...

Po-tay-to, Po-tah-to...

The Falcons picked Julio Jones #6 and lost a 2011 2nd Rounder and 4th Rounder along with 2012 1st Rounder and 4th Rounder. However you figure this year's #27 pick is irrelevant.

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1)doesn't matter who Atlanta intended to draft. The trade for picks and the drafting of the player are two separate and distinct actions, not one.

2)does anybody understand the concept of net loss?

the Saints had a net loss of 1 draft pick as they sent 2 to New England and got one in return. They then used that 1 return pick to get Ingram which means we used two total picks to get Ingram

1) I don't even think you believe that.

2) This is the last time I'm going to whip this dead horse.

Net loss is a very easy concept to grasp and I think we all get it. When the question is, "What was the falcons net loss in the trade with the browns?", your answer is valid. On the other hand, when the question is, as it has always been, "How many picks did the falcons trade to the browns to get the #6 pick (Jones)?", the concept of net loss has nothing to so with obtaining that answer. The only concept you need for that is addition and the ability to count by ones up to five.

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