Guest JoeSr Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Matthew Ryanhttp://www.nfl.com/player/mattryan/310/careerstatsMichael Vickhttp://www.nfl.com/player/michaelvick/2504531/careerstats/thread Quote Link to post Share on other sites
REV.2000 1,888 Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 HERES THE THING: MATT PLAYS FOR ATLANTA,AND MIKE PLAYS FOR PHILLY, AND "THEY BOTH ...MAKE MORE THAN ALL OF US." :wacko: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alwaysfallforward 410 Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 Internet Klansman? What the **** is that even suppost to mean? Are you saying that law-abiding fans that have set standards for who they want to take their children to cheer for are Klansmen? You are a fool.he apparently is one of those fans that thinks every Vick hater hates him because of his race...I agree that's dumbhowever all this "law abiding fans" crap is nonsense...he's already done his time, you need to get over it. Do the crime, do the time, get out, move on with your life..thats how the world worksthis is a football league, not a role models league..as long as the system decides they can be out on the street, they can play football if their good enoughif someone's kid would actually fight dogs because Vick did it IN THE PAST, and now says its wrong and admits to deserving his time...then its not Vick's problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alwaysfallforward 410 Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 Vicks first 3 years he won 3 playoff games, Ryan has been in the league going on 4 yrs and hadnt won one. I'd much rather have Vick. Vick had a horrible offensive line last season. It was worst than any Oline the Falcons have ever had. Specifically at the RG and RT position. The Eagles addressed those issues already with RT Ryan Harris from the Broncos. The kids a stud and signed RG Evan Mathis from Bengals.Kevin Kolb got hurt the very first game last season so what did that tell you about the Eagles Oline? Any other qb playing behind that line wouldve been on IR.I agree Vick's better, but because of his actual playyour argument for Vick is one of the worst that could be made..firstly, because of the "playoff winner" thing...the team wins games..**** the "cant win a SB" argument is used against Vick all the time when comparing him to say, Ben...who he is better than despite Ben's 2 SBsand your argument about Kolb getting hurt is flawed..any time a QB gets hit there is a chance of an unlucky injury...Kolb's injury tells us he was hit atleast once. By your logic-o-line sucks if QB gets hit once all game.plenty of QBs could have survived on the Eagles line...Cutler survived all year getting knocked around behind the Bears line, which may have been the worst pass blocking one in the league, don't exaggerate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dabootyman 283 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 (edited) Matthew Ryanhttp://www.nfl.com/player/mattryan/310/careerstatsMichael Vickhttp://www.nfl.com/player/michaelvick/2504531/careerstats/thread Vick won in the playoffs as a falcon. Ryan still cant win one, been in the league longer and has more weapons. So u might as well rip up them B.S stat sheets. Ryan got blown out in the playoffs against GB, Vick only lost by 5 pts. Do the math. Fans walked out on Ryan and the ridiculous Falcons team.Eagles fans didnt walk out on Vick because they know you can never count a talent out like Vick. Anybody even attempting to say something as stupid as Ryan is better than Vick please go get your brain checked and one more thing Watch " Miracle at the Meadowlands. Vick scored 28 f'n points in 7 minutes. Some of you people need to use your brain. Ryan WONT EVER DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT.MONDAY NIGHT GAME AGAINST THE REDSKINS WAS ONE OF THE MOST DOMINATING PERFORMANCES BY QB EVER. VICK SCORED 6 TDS AND DESTROYED THE REDSKINS. THATS SOMETHING RYAN WONT EVER DO AS WELL. YEAH KEEP THOSE CRAPPY STAT SHEETS.Because this weak organization Failed to surround Vick with half the talent Ryan has while he was here. All Vick had in that NFC game was a TE(crumpler) and a RB. LIKE I SAID KEEP THE STAT SHEETS AND USE YOUR BRAIN KID. Edited September 6, 2011 by Dabootyman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alwaysfallforward 410 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Vick won in the playoffs as a falcon. Ryan still cant win one, been in the league longer and has more weapons. So u might as well rip up them B.S stat sheets. Ryan got blown out in the playoffs against GB, Vick only lost by 5 pts. Do the math. Fans walked out on Ryan and the ridiculous Falcons team.Eagles fans didnt walk out on Vick because they know you can never count a talent out like Vick. Anybody even attempting to say something as stupid as Ryan is better than Vick please go get your brain checked and one more thing Watch " Miracle at the Meadowlands. Vick scored 28 f'n points in 7 minutes. Some of you people need to use your brain. Ryan WONT EVER DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT.MONDAY NIGHT GAME AGAINST THE REDSKINS WAS ONE OF THE MOST DOMINATING PERFORMANCES BY QB EVER. VICK SCORED 6 TDS AND DESTROYED THE REDSKINS. THATS SOMETHING RYAN WONT EVER DO AS WELL. YEAH KEEP THOSE CRAPPY STAT SHEETS.Because this weak organization Failed to surround Vick with half the talent Ryan has while he was here. All Vick had in that NFC game was a TE(crumpler) and a RB. LIKE I SAID KEEP THE STAT SHEETS AND USE YOUR BRAIN KID.Vick is better but stop using bad arguments, and don't tell people to use their brain when your arguments don't make any sense.firstly,the Eagles scored 16 points on GB...3 at the half, Atlanta scored 21..14 at the half...the Eagles offense was inept against Green Bay until they got in a hole...the DEFENSE is what kept Philly in the game,not Vick...the DEFENSE is what made Atlanta get blown out, not Ryan****, your argument could even be used against you because Atlanta was atleast able to beat GB once this year, Philly lost twice to them.when Vick was here Atlanta's defense was better than has been w/Ryan..different team,different coach..it isn't as if Vick left but the team stayed the samebottom line..Vick is better than Ryan, but your arguments suck..your like a terrible lawyer defending an innocent client Quote Link to post Share on other sites
I Want a Sam Baker Beard 9 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 This season will determine all the talk comparing Matt Ryan and Vick most certainley. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nawlins4lyfe 14 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
passepartout 7 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Matt is young and will be staying with the team, for a long time to come. That was his first time in the playoffs. So give him time. Michael does have the experience. But needs to prove it that he can get into the big one or win the Super Bowl. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dabootyman 283 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 This season will determine all the talk comparing Matt Ryan and Vick most certainley.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7KSkZxt_zo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alwaysfallforward 410 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 This season will determine all the talk comparing Matt Ryan and Vick most certainley.Vick is definitely a better QB than Ryan..this guy's reasons and arguments are just awful so it may make it seem like he isn't Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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