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Ricky Elmore, DE Arizona


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The more and more I watch this guy, the more I feel like he could be our guy if we don't grab a DE in the first round. He is a stud for real.

My analysis on him

Pros:

-Plays with leverage

-Solid pass rusher

-Good size and frame

-Good burst off the ball

-Sheds blocks well

-Gets pressure on the pocket

-Violent hands/Uses his hands well

-Variety of moves (bullrush, rip, bend)

-Surprising strength and power

-Good closing speed

-Plays the run nicely, holds the point of attack

-High motor, hard working guy

-Productive, 21.5 sacks in 2 years

When I watch him, for some reason I think of Clay Matthews type player

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To be honest, I don't see us going DE first if one of the top ones aren't there (RK, Bailey) . Our DLine isn't necessarily bad, it just can be better. We have dead weight in players like Davis and Lewis in my opinion that need replacing. Ricky Elmore would be a great second round selection (he may end up rising to a 3rd rounder making us take him early if we want him)

Elmore stands 6'5 265 and is highly underrated. He can play both the run and pass effectively and violently. If he can add about 10 lbs to his frame and not lose anything I think he can be a problem in the league. 21.5 sacks in 2 years isn't easy. Period. Plus, adding Sidbury will give us a better rotational DE corps.

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Positives: Solid pass rusher... Good length... Good burst off the ball... Good bend on the corner... Good suddenness... Gets good pressure on the pocket... Plays with good leverage... Does a solid job getting off blocks... Violent hands... Uses his hands well... Nice arsenal of moves... Good strength and power... Nice bull rush... Good rip and arm over moves... Good flexibility and body control... Good closing speed... Reasonably good bend... Plays the run well... Very solid anchor... Holds the edge reasonably well... Decent change of direction agility... Chases the ball... Stays active... Hard worker... Blue collar... Good motor... High energy... Plays low... Has the frame to add some weight... Had 10.5 sacks in 2009... All Pac-10 second team with 11 sacks in 2010.

Look at his negatives from this scouting report:

Negatives: Is not the most physically gifted athlete... Not overly explosive... Would needs to add an additional 10-15 lbs. if drafted to play defensive end, would be best off between 270-275 lbs... Could play outside linebacker in a 3-4 scheme, but lacks experience dropping into coverage and has lacked awareness when asked to do so.

Basically what I said in my earlier post. Give him more bulk and he could be a really good LE.

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Ive been talking about Elmore... I dont think he is the answer for a future stater but i think he would be a great rotational guy if we want to save some money over paying Jamaal all that money.

Elmore is a solid prospect, but how is he ANY different than Kroy Biermann? They are the same prospect in my opinion.

I think he has the body type to be more stouter against the run then Kroy but agree.. He is not the guy u want as a starter.

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I think he could start but he does draw Kroy comparisons. I think his ceiling is higher than Kroys but not much

I dont think he is a starter here but i def think we are looking at him... He could fit in our rotation.

I think his ceiling as a run stopper is higher but i think their pass rush ceiling is about the same.

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Seeing as how Biermann seemed to be more productive, at least sack wise, as a rotational DE rather than a every down starter; do ya'll see us drafting someone like Elmore later in the draft to rotate with Biermann to be LDE. Therefore, rather than having 1 guy to be LDE, we go with 2 DEs on a rotational basis like we are doing now by necessity.

To be honest, this scenario would not be my first choice but it would be better than "reaching" in 1st Rd if the DE we covet is not there. This could be what happens seeing how we will be drafting late in RD 1. The other option would to trade up....

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I do. Since we rotate our players to put them in situations ideal with their strengths. Yes a first round talent is good at both run and pass but the question is would he play 100% of the snaps? Odds are no. Not even 85%. Abe is our best pass rusher and he doesn't. Elmore is a really good DE and will rise up boards in the coming weeks. We already have a pass rush specialist in Sidbury (It is hard to get PT behind an All-Pro RE, regardless of if you guys feel he is the answer or not).

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Seeing as how Biermann seemed to be more productive, at least sack wise, as a rotational DE rather than a every down starter; do ya'll see us drafting someone like Elmore later in the draft to rotate with Biermann to be LDE. Therefore, rather than having 1 guy to be LDE, we go with 2 DEs on a rotational basis like we are doing now by necessity.

To be honest, this scenario would not be my first choice but it would be better than "reaching" in 1st Rd if the DE we covet is not there. This could be what happens seeing how we will be drafting late in RD 1. The other option would to trade up....

I see it as the last case scenario... If we cant find a DE in FA or in the 1st round .... Then i can see us doing that... I still go back to Coach Smith comments last year... We need a guy besides Abe that con consistently give us atleast 7.5 sacks (a year) .. We will blitz sometimes but we mainly need to generate a pass rush with our front 4....

Lets keep it real also... A GM's job is not to just think about this year but the future also... Our 2 best D-Linemen are Babs (29 years old) and Abe (32 years old) .. They still have juice but its time to bring in that next young guy to play along with them.

The perfect thing would be to bring in Charles Johnson

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I do. Since we rotate our players to put them in situations ideal with their strengths. Yes a first round talent is good at both run and pass but the question is would he play 100% of the snaps? Odds are no. Not even 85%. Abe is our best pass rusher and he doesn't. Elmore is a really good DE and will rise up boards in the coming weeks. We already have a pass rush specialist in Sidbury (It is hard to get PT behind an All-Pro RE, regardless of if you guys feel he is the answer or not).

Its not about playing 100% of the downs.... Its about what that player can bring to this team on his snaps.

Having a impact player that can rush the passer and stop the run in the 4th quarter would be huge... Teams recognize when Abe is not on the field.

We will rotate guys... That doesnt mean a complete player wouldnt be HUGE for us... because situations in a game.... It will show.

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I see it as the last case scenario... If we cant find a DE in FA or in the 1st round .... Then i can see us doing that... I still go back to Coach Smith comments last year... We need a guy besides Abe that con consistently give us atleast 7.5 sacks (a year) .. We will blitz sometimes but we mainly need to generate a pass rush with our front 4....

Lets keep it real also... A GM's job is not to just think about this year but the future also... Our 2 best D-Linemen are Babs (29 years old) and Abe (32 years old) .. They still have juice but its time to bring in that next young guy to play along with them.

The perfect thing would be to bring in Charles Johnson

After loosing Peppers and with the year he had I don't think Carolina will let him get away.

They have Brown and Hardy but they are not Johnson.

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Either way, I think the best way to go is to grab either Johnson or Edwards in FA. Both of them are still very young and have proven that they can rush the passer.

Neither of them may ever be in that "elite" group and that is why their teams may be hesitant to Tag them. Both are also in pretty bad situations that they probably want out of too. If we make a move in FA that is the position that I want to go with.

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Its not about playing 100% of the downs.... Its about what that player can bring to this team on his snaps.

Having a impact player that can rush the passer and stop the run in the 4th quarter would be huge... Teams recognize when Abe is not on the field.

We will rotate guys... That doesnt mean a complete player wouldnt be HUGE for us... because situations in a game.... It will show.

I'm not saying it wouldn't be huge, I'm just saying if the player is already going to be limited to certain situations, why not take a more specialized player? We could find one of those in the 2-3 rounds and take BPA in the 1st. That is why Elmore intrigues me. He does both the run and pass well, he just needs a little more bulk. Every profile I have found on him is that he needs to gain about 10 more pounds but mention him being good in both situations.

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