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I don't know why people (IE sportscasters) can't figure this one out.

ATL is 11-2 (if we lose every game we would be 11-5)

TB is 7-5 so the best they could do is 11-5

GB is 7-5 so the best they can do is 11-5

We own the tiebreaker over both....

Even is Philly, NO, NYG, TB, GB, and the west win out....which is not possible since there are common opponent games between them, WE WOULD BE IN!!!!

That said we need to win against SEATTLE to have the common opponent tiebreaker against NO (if they beat Baltimore) in order to win the division by beating CAR....

Either way 2 wins out of the last three opponents and we win the NFC South and the #1 seed. Either we beat NO so they are 12-4 or we beat CAR/SEA and end up tied with them at 13-3 (in which Tiebreaker goes to us)

Needless to say SEATTLE is the biggest game of the season right now. A loss and we must win out for the number one seed (or at least beat NO to win the NFC south - no guarantee of number one seed as Philly has tiebreaker over us if we end up 12-4), we win then we are down to needing to win 1 of 2 games.....if we beat NO we probably rest our starters....but with the bye in hand we will probably play them at least a quarter to try to get up on the panthers.....

Lots of scenarios most favor us for the number one seed. While losing out would be terrible and make our road to the superbowl hard as ****....make no mistakes..

ATLANTA WAS THE FIRST TEAM TO CLINCH A PLAYOFF SPOT THIS YEAR.

On a side note after SEATTLE it is all home games (including the Superbowl where the NFC is considered the home team this year!)

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actually we need the giants to loose tonight to clinch a playoff spot, since green bay lost yesterday. NE was the first team to clinch a spot since they clinched one yesterday.

No we don't need Giants to lose....DO THE MATH. Every sporting news out there is not doing the math.

Read the post carefully 2 of 7 teams with the best records will be left out of the playoffs, we own tiebreakers over both of them due to head to head wins. Therefore the worst we could do is be the 6th seed at this point.

If 3 or more teams finish 11-5 assuming a total ATL meltdown included we own the tie breaker over TB and GB due to our wins vs them. SIMPLE MATH, NFL tiebreaker rules......WE ARE ALREADY IN no matter what happens.

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No we don't need Giants to lose....DO THE MATH. Every sporting news out there is not doing the math.

Read the post carefully 2 of 7 teams with the best records will be left out of the playoffs, we own tiebreakers over both of them due to head to head wins. Therefore the worst we could do is be the 6th seed at this point.

If 3 or more teams finish 11-5 assuming a total ATL meltdown included we own the tie breaker over TB and GB due to our wins vs them. SIMPLE MATH, NFL tiebreaker rules......WE ARE ALREADY IN no matter what happens.

This was already discussed on all the NFL shows yesterday, the only was we clinch a playoff spot was if Green Bay and Philly lost, OR Green Bay and Giants lost, OR philly and giants lost. Green bay lost so we will need giants to loose.

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I'm sitting here thinking about it...I think you might be right. There have been a few years where the "experts" didn't quite get it right until more deliberation. Even if we lose out and the Giants surge past us that's one WC, the Saints would win our division, but the Packers lose the tiebreaker...

Wait, I think the Pack can win the division and not have to worry about a tiebreaker with us so if we finished with the same record as the Bears I think they might be able to get the last WC over us.

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I don't know why people (IE sportscasters) can't figure this one out.

ATL is 11-2 (if we lose every game we would be 11-5)

TB is 7-5 so the best they could do is 11-5

GB is 7-5 so the best they can do is 11-5

We own the tiebreaker over both....

Even is Philly, NO, NYG, TB, GB, and the west win out....which is not possible since there are common opponent games between them, WE WOULD BE IN!!!!

That said we need to win against SEATTLE to have the common opponent tiebreaker against NO (if they beat Baltimore) in order to win the division by beating CAR....

Either way 2 wins out of the last three opponents and we win the NFC South and the #1 seed. Either we beat NO so they are 12-4 or we beat CAR/SEA and end up tied with them at 13-3 (in which Tiebreaker goes to us)

Needless to say SEATTLE is the biggest game of the season right now. A loss and we must win out for the number one seed (or at least beat NO to win the NFC south - no guarantee of number one seed as Philly has tiebreaker over us if we end up 12-4), we win then we are down to needing to win 1 of 2 games.....if we beat NO we probably rest our starters....but with the bye in hand we will probably play them at least a quarter to try to get up on the panthers.....

Lots of scenarios most favor us for the number one seed. While losing out would be terrible and make our road to the superbowl hard as ****....make no mistakes..

ATLANTA WAS THE FIRST TEAM TO CLINCH A PLAYOFF SPOT THIS YEAR.

On a side note after SEATTLE it is all home games (including the Superbowl where the NFC is considered the home team this year!)

This is not correct. If we lose out, there are several scenarios where we could miss the playoffs.

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So if Green Bay and the Giants win their divisions.

Us, Chicago and Philly vie for a wc spot, we're out.

i don't know why we are debating this we are not going to lose to SEA and CAR and NO..

I still think someone will have to walk me thru the tiebreaker between us Chicago and Philly. I don't think the logic of philly beat us and Chicago beat them would decide it since we never had an opportunity to play Chicago.

that hardly would seem right. doesn't matter we are gonna beat Seattle and then we will win at least 1 of 2 and be the number one seed

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i don't know why we are debating this we are not going to lose to SEA and CAR and NO..

I still think someone will have to walk me thru the tiebreaker between us Chicago and Philly. I don't think the logic of philly beat us and Chicago beat them would decide it since we never had an opportunity to play Chicago.

that hardly would seem right. doesn't matter we are gonna beat Seattle and then we will win at least 1 of 2 and be the number one seed

ok here are tiebreakers for wild card

Three or More Clubs

(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club format.)

Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants.

Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.) (IE Philly win against us means nothing)

Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.(philly after losing to the giants would have an 8-4 conference record and Bears after losing to GB 8-4 conf record ...we would have a conf record of 9-3....

Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.

Strength of victory.

Strength of schedule.

Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.

Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.

Best net points in conference games.

Best net points in all games.

Best net touchdowns in all games.

Coin toss

So if that is the case and there is a three way for the wild card we will beat both philly and the bears due to conference record.....so take that NFL stat guys....

So can anyone tell me how their own tiebreaker rules are irrelevant?

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ok here are tiebreakers for wild card

Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.(philly after losing to the giants would have an 8-4 conference record and Bears after losing to GB 8-4 conf record ...we would have a conf record of 9-3....

Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.

Strength of victory.

Strength of schedule.

Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.

Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.

Best net points in conference games.

Best net points in all games.

Best net touchdowns in all games.

Coin toss

So if that is the case and there is a three way for the wild card we will beat both philly and the bears due to conference record.....so take that NFL stat guys....

So can anyone tell me how their own tiebreaker rules are irrelevant?

Uh..... if we lost out, out conf record would be 8-4. L to- Philly, Seattle, NO, Panthers

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i don't know why we are debating this we are not going to lose to SEA and CAR and NO..

I still think someone will have to walk me thru the tiebreaker between us Chicago and Philly. I don't think the logic of philly beat us and Chicago beat them would decide it since we never had an opportunity to play Chicago.

that hardly would seem right. doesn't matter we are gonna beat Seattle and then we will win at least 1 of 2 and be the number one seed

That's not the premise of your thread. You've changed your argument. You said we are already in mathematically. That's is factually inaccurate.

Sure the chances that we lose out, that all those things go against us aren't very high, but playoff scenarios aren't about what's likely they are about if the worst possible scenario happened could your team still make the post-season and because of tiebreaker loss to Philly if they were wildcard team and we lost out, the answer is NO.

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That's not the premise of your thread. You've changed your argument. You said we are already in mathematically. That's is factually inaccurate.

Sure the chances that we lose out, that all those things go against us aren't very high, but playoff scenarios aren't about what's likely they are about if the worst possible scenario happened could your team still make the post-season and because of tiebreaker loss to Philly if they were wildcard team and we lost out, the answer is NO.

except in this scenario it is a three way tie which means since we did not play chicago, those tiebreakers don't mean snot unless one team is eliminated (IE gets a wild card spot then it reverts to head to head.

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Could someone explain how GB could win the division if the Bears win 11? Clearly GB has to win out (meaning a win against the Bears week 17). If the Bears win 11 then they win week 15 against Minny. Tie-Breaker #1 is H2H (they will have split). Tie-Breaker #2 is division record. If GB wins out they will be 4-2. If Chicago beats Minny and loses to GB they are 5-1 and would win the division.

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I don't know why people (IE sportscasters) can't figure this one out.

ATL is 11-2 (if we lose every game we would be 11-5)

TB is 7-5 so the best they could do is 11-5

GB is 7-5 so the best they can do is 11-5

We own the tiebreaker over both....

Even is Philly, NO, NYG, TB, GB, and the west win out....which is not possible since there are common opponent games between them, WE WOULD BE IN!!!!

That said we need to win against SEATTLE to have the common opponent tiebreaker against NO (if they beat Baltimore) in order to win the division by beating CAR....

Either way 2 wins out of the last three opponents and we win the NFC South and the #1 seed. Either we beat NO so they are 12-4 or we beat CAR/SEA and end up tied with them at 13-3 (in which Tiebreaker goes to us)

Needless to say SEATTLE is the biggest game of the season right now. A loss and we must win out for the number one seed (or at least beat NO to win the NFC south - no guarantee of number one seed as Philly has tiebreaker over us if we end up 12-4), we win then we are down to needing to win 1 of 2 games.....if we beat NO we probably rest our starters....but with the bye in hand we will probably play them at least a quarter to try to get up on the panthers.....

Lots of scenarios most favor us for the number one seed. While losing out would be terrible and make our road to the superbowl hard as ****....make no mistakes..

ATLANTA WAS THE FIRST TEAM TO CLINCH A PLAYOFF SPOT THIS YEAR.

On a side note after SEATTLE it is all home games (including the Superbowl where the NFC is considered the home team this year!)

Yeah I don't get it either. Don't the Giants and Philly play next week too? One of them obviously will lose then.

no matter what happens we can't finish lower than the 6th seed.

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I agree...I was just trying to settle what I STILL think is faulty stat guys. I think PAt actually had it right and then his story was retracted....

But I absolutely know one thing, WE NEED TO WIN IN SEATTLE. That is the biggest and easiest route to us winning the division. Then we only have to take out either NO or CAR (or both to keep our home streak going)

Personally I prefer to win out and take the trophy home. On a side note I wouldn't mind the Giants winning and beating Philly next week as that would put them closer to being eliminated....I am not scared of them but I would prefer to not have to listen about Vick coming back to the Dome....We are going to hear enough of that on our way to the superbowl.....though i would like to see Matty and our Defense Whip Vick's behind so there is no question...

i don't hate Vick (I just don't want to hear about how he sent our Franchise towards a death spiral which we recovered then he comes back to haunt us again....) THAT MY FRIENDS WOULD SUCK BIG TIME.....

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Yeah, I was thinking the same thing last night after hearing that the Patriots were the 1st team to make the playoffs. I couldn't see how we finished worse than the 6th seed, but I must not be seeing it.

Anyway, I'm not settling for anything. I want homefield throughout. I believe all we have to do is beat Seattle and Carolina to do it or beat Carolina and have Baltimore beat the Saints.

So, let's start by winning our last road game of the year!

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Yeah, I was thinking the same thing last night after hearing that the Patriots were the 1st team to make the playoffs. I couldn't see how we finished worse than the 6th seed, but I must not be seeing it.

Anyway, I'm not settling for anything. I want homefield throughout. I believe all we have to do is beat Seattle and Carolina to do it or beat Carolina and have Baltimore beat the Saints.

So, let's start by winning our last road game of the year!

The one and only scenario:

Atl, GB, NYG, Philly all finish 11-5 and Chicago wins at least 11.

If Chicago wins 11, they win the North based on divsion record vs GB.

If GB, Philly, and NYG all win 11 that means GB beats NY week 16 and NY beats Phi week 15. If this happens then NY will win East based on conference record (H2H split and same division record of 4-2).

We would then be in a 3-way tie with Philly and GB. No team would be in or out based on H2H and all would have same NFC record of 8-4. There would not be enough common games for a tie-breaker, so it would come down to SOV. I have to imagine we would be in good shape based on 5 wins vs very good teams, but who knows.

Any other situation and we are in.

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