Jump to content

Overcheiving Ryan may lead team to 'accidental' playoff birth...


Mr. Right
 Share

Recommended Posts

There is a saying around the NFL that a good QB can make a head coach look like a genius. (Just look at the impact of Peyton Manning and Tom Brady on their respective coaches). However, in Atlanta a reverse phenomenon may be true. A good coach may make a sub-par QB look like a superstar. While Mike Smith has yet to win a Superbowl, and it waits to be seen if he actually is a good coach, Smith has largely prevented Matt Ryan from making mistakes.

This past weekend, Falcons fans witnessed a tough win at Raymond James Stadium. While the win allowed us to maintain our first place position in the NFC South, the Falcons may have been better off if they avoided the game altogether. This is because the Buccaneers showed the NFL not only how to beat the Falcons, but also the true nature of Matt Ryan. That is, Matt Ryan is no more than a Joey Harrington with favorable surroundings.

Falcons fans tend to point out how 'good' Ryan is by reciting his stats. Ryan is one of the least sacked QBs. Ryan is one of the best against the blitz. Ryan has only been defeated once at home. But if you delve deeper into the stats, you will see that Ryan is only successful because of the Falcons scheme. One of the stats that is not often mentioned is that Ryan has a measly 6.6 yards per attempt this season, which ties him with Mark Sanchez. For comparison, the league leader Phillip Rivers has 8.8 y/a and second behind him is Michael Vick with 8.4 y/a. More importantly Falcons averaged 6.3 yards net of yards after catch per passing completion and 4.0 yards net of yards after catch per pass attempt.

What this tells you is that Matt Ryan is 'successful' only because the Falcons run a 'dink and dunk' passing game that is complemented by a solid running game. Ryan is successful against the blitz because of the fact that all he has to do is dump the ball off. Ryan is also one of the fewest sacked QBs because the 'dink and dunk' offense allows him to get rid of the ball quickly. And finally, Ryan has one of the fewest interceptions because he doesn't have to pass more than 4 yards per attempt.

The Buccaneers exposed Matt Ryan this past weekend by playing the short passing game. While Ryan was only intercepted twice, anyone who watched the game would know that he should have been picked off at least 5 times. When Ryan did throw deep, he was horribly inaccurate (as he was throughout the season).

From this we can tell that Ryan is only a 'game manager' and has been successful because of the scheme he is in. Just like Joey Harrington, Ryan excels at the 'dink and dunk' offense and minimizes turnovers by checking the ball down. However, unlike elite QBs like Manning and Brady, who also can minimize turnovers, Ryan cannot expand the passing game vertically. While Joey Harrington has largely been unsuccessful, his lack of success can be attributed to a lack a complimentary run game - which is crucial for the success of a 'dink and dunk' QB.

Unlike Manning and Brady, Ryan is only successful because of a power running game and HOF TE and all-star WR. Just ask yourself this: Do you think Ryan would be successful without White and Gonzalez? Manning and Brady are able to succeed even without top WRs.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 122
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST

DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST

DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST

DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST

DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST

DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST

DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST

DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST

DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST

DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST

DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST

DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST

DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST

DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST

DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST

DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST

DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST

DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST

DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST

DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST

DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST

DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST

DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST

DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST

DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST

DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST

DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST

DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST DO NOT POST

Link to comment
Share on other sites

:D You think everyone here is a "QB" fan, like yourself. But I don't care if it's Matt Ryan or JPW III. We're 10-2, so suck it Mr. Right.

It doesn't matter to me if Ryan succeeds because of Mike Smith, Roddy White and Tony G... He's a Falcon, so as long as he wins, we ALL win! ...Except you, which makes it all the sweeter.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

There is a saying around the NFL that a good QB can make a head coach look like a genius. (Just look at the impact of Peyton Manning and Tom Brady on their respective coaches). However, in Atlanta a reverse phenomenon may be true. A good coach may make a sub-par QB look like a superstar. While Mike Smith has yet to win a Superbowl, and it waits to be seen if he actually is a good coach, Smith has largely prevented Matt Ryan from making mistakes.

This past weekend, Falcons fans witnessed a tough win at Raymond James Stadium. While the win allowed us to maintain our first place position in the NFC South, the Falcons may have been better off if they avoided the game altogether. This is because the Buccaneers showed the NFL not only how to beat the Falcons, but also the true nature of Matt Ryan. That is, Matt Ryan is no more than a Joey Harrington with favorable surroundings.

Falcons fans tend to point out how 'good' Ryan is by reciting his stats. Ryan is one of the least sacked QBs. Ryan is one of the best against the blitz. Ryan has only been defeated once at home. But if you delve deeper into the stats, you will see that Ryan is only successful because of the Falcons scheme. One of the stats that is not often mentioned is that Ryan has a measly 6.6 yards per attempt this season, which ties him with Mark Sanchez. For comparison, the league leader Phillip Rivers has 8.8 y/a and second behind him is Michael Vick with 8.4 y/a. More importantly Falcons averaged 6.3 yards net of yards after catch per passing completion and 4.0 yards net of yards after catch per pass attempt.

What this tells you is that Matt Ryan is 'successful' only because the Falcons run a 'dink and dunk' passing game that is complemented by a solid running game. Ryan is successful against the blitz because of the fact that all he has to do is dump the ball off. Ryan is also one of the fewest sacked QBs because the 'dink and dunk' offense allows him to get rid of the ball quickly. And finally, Ryan has one of the fewest interceptions because he doesn't have to pass more than 4 yards per attempt.

The Buccaneers exposed Matt Ryan this past weekend by playing the short passing game. While Ryan was only intercepted twice, anyone who watched the game would know that he should have been picked off at least 5 times. When Ryan did throw deep, he was horribly inaccurate (as he was throughout the season).

From this we can tell that Ryan is only a 'game manager' and has been successful because of the scheme he is in. Just like Joey Harrington, Ryan excels at the 'dink and dunk' offense and minimizes turnovers by checking the ball down. However, unlike elite QBs like Manning and Brady, who also can minimize turnovers, Ryan cannot expand the passing game vertically. While Joey Harrington has largely been unsuccessful, his lack of success can be attributed to a lack a complimentary run game - which is crucial for the success of a 'dink and dunk' QB.

Unlike Manning and Brady, Ryan is only successful because of a power running game and HOF TE and all-star WR. Just ask yourself this: Do you think Ryan would be successful without White and Gonzalez? Manning and Brady are able to succeed even without top WRs.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

:blink: Do you even watch football? Payton is not successful this year, and Brady (DInks and Dunks). Your QB is your Field General. He has thrown long passes on target. If you actually watched the game you would know that.

Like I said, elite QBs are able to both check down and expand the field vertically. Ryan is not able to do the latter. Manning is the NFL passing leader this year.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Like I said, elite QBs are able to both check down and expand the field vertically. Ryan is not able to do the latter. Manning is the NFL passing leader this year.

Manning is the passing leader and Ryan is tied with Brady as the wins leader. You're already running out of fake criticisms and it's only Ryan's 3rd year.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Manning is the passing leader and Ryan is tied with Brady as the wins leader. You're already running out of fake criticisms and it's only Ryan's 3rd year.

Ryan is not winning because of his exceptional play, but because of a complimentary run game and a defense that is in the top 10 for points given up.

Edited by Mr. Right
Link to comment
Share on other sites

As a rookie, Ryan average 7.9 yards per attempt. So, you're criticism is entirely invalid. Our scheme this year is not built to cover up his weaknesses. It is built to win games, and the way the Falcons win games is to put together long drives that chew up a lot of time off the clock.

Try again, sir.

Edited by Ice2White
Link to comment
Share on other sites

There is a saying around the NFL that a good QB can make a head coach look like a genius. (Just look at the impact of Peyton Manning and Tom Brady on their respective coaches). However, in Atlanta a reverse phenomenon may be true. A good coach may make a sub-par QB look like a superstar. While Mike Smith has yet to win a Superbowl, and it waits to be seen if he actually is a good coach, Smith has largely prevented Matt Ryan from making mistakes.

This past weekend, Falcons fans witnessed a tough win at Raymond James Stadium. While the win allowed us to maintain our first place position in the NFC South, the Falcons may have been better off if they avoided the game altogether. This is because the Buccaneers showed the NFL not only how to beat the Falcons, but also the true nature of Matt Ryan. That is, Matt Ryan is no more than a Joey Harrington with favorable surroundings.

Falcons fans tend to point out how 'good' Ryan is by reciting his stats. Ryan is one of the least sacked QBs. Ryan is one of the best against the blitz. Ryan has only been defeated once at home. But if you delve deeper into the stats, you will see that Ryan is only successful because of the Falcons scheme. One of the stats that is not often mentioned is that Ryan has a measly 6.6 yards per attempt this season, which ties him with Mark Sanchez. For comparison, the league leader Phillip Rivers has 8.8 y/a and second behind him is Michael Vick with 8.4 y/a. More importantly Falcons averaged 6.3 yards net of yards after catch per passing completion and 4.0 yards net of yards after catch per pass attempt.

What this tells you is that Matt Ryan is 'successful' only because the Falcons run a 'dink and dunk' passing game that is complemented by a solid running game. Ryan is successful against the blitz because of the fact that all he has to do is dump the ball off. Ryan is also one of the fewest sacked QBs because the 'dink and dunk' offense allows him to get rid of the ball quickly. And finally, Ryan has one of the fewest interceptions because he doesn't have to pass more than 4 yards per attempt.

The Buccaneers exposed Matt Ryan this past weekend by playing the short passing game. While Ryan was only intercepted twice, anyone who watched the game would know that he should have been picked off at least 5 times. When Ryan did throw deep, he was horribly inaccurate (as he was throughout the season).

From this we can tell that Ryan is only a 'game manager' and has been successful because of the scheme he is in. Just like Joey Harrington, Ryan excels at the 'dink and dunk' offense and minimizes turnovers by checking the ball down. However, unlike elite QBs like Manning and Brady, who also can minimize turnovers, Ryan cannot expand the passing game vertically. While Joey Harrington has largely been unsuccessful, his lack of success can be attributed to a lack a complimentary run game - which is crucial for the success of a 'dink and dunk' QB.

Unlike Manning and Brady, Ryan is only successful because of a power running game and HOF TE and all-star WR. Just ask yourself this: Do you think Ryan would be successful without White and Gonzalez? Manning and Brady are able to succeed even without top WRs.

:huh::huh: I guess you missed the whole first half of the Ravens game where Matt Ryan ran a no huddle and had their defense looking confused and uncertain on what to do. :rolleyes:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I love this hate. It shows how insecure other fans are. As annoying as it is, keep it up. Its good perspective. Mr. Right I'm not sure who you root for but if it makes you feel any better, the chances of it being your team we beat to get to Dallas is slim so, hey at least this grudge might not be personal.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I agree, he is very good at game managing.

If you're going to call yourself Mr. Right and come to a Falcons message board with the intention of taking on every willing member in a debate about the skills of the Falcons' quarterback, you can't pass up responses like the one I made and solely respond to the the less valid responses which make it easy for you to continue with your pompousness.

What do you have to say about the fact that Matt Ryan averaged 7.9 yards per attempt as a rookie? Roddy White and Michael Jenkins each averaged over 15 yards per catch that year. Your entire point has just been shot down. Like I said, try again.

Edited by Ice2White
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


×
×
  • Create New...