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I was just reading some of the Panther's messsage boards, as I do to all our upcoming games, and I noticed alot of them talking about drafting Luck, and how as long as they keep number one draft spot they will get him.

Now im not coach or GM, but after drafting Claussen, as well as what 2 other Qbs? Wouldn't it make sense to try to build around Claussen. Im not saying he is great, but to draft another QB, even though Luck will probably twice as good as Claussen, just seemed a bit out of sync to me.

Anybody have an opinion on this?

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We'll have a new HC. More times than not, a new HC brings in their own guy to qb.

I don't see the team passing up on a guy that most claim is the best prospect since Elway.

They have the WRs, RBs, TEs, Most of the Oline (With Otah back next year) in place for whoever the new HC wants to bring in.

Clausen will likely fall victim to horrible play calling and horrible protection from the Oline and be judged accordingly.

Added- Clausen was just a mid second round pick, the money tied up in him is very little. If they do get Luck or someone else, I can see them using Clausen as trade bait, trying to get anything they can for him.

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http://newerascouting.com/2010/andrew-luck-nfl-draft-scouting-report/

Height: 6’4 | Weight: 235 | Stanford

Accuracy:Very good accuracy in the 5-15yd and 15-25yd ranges. Throws the ball to an area that the receiver will be in the best position to make the catch. Does a good job putting enough touch on the ball, so the ball is never thrown too hard or too soft. Can over throw receivers past the 30 yard range, especially to his right. Will look effortless as times throwing routes under 25 yards. Has great short accuracy but will let a few float deep. Would prefer to see him completing a higher percentage of throws past 25 yards.

Arm strength: Has shown the ability to push the ball down field. Luck has consistently connected on deep passes over 50 yards. There are no concerns about his ability to throw deep routes. Luck can spread the ball outside the hashes and deep up the seam. Stanford does run a pro system that does not ask Luck to throw deep often, preferring more of a West Coast attack. However, in workouts and few game opportunities, Luck has looked sharp throwing deep. Throws come out with a very tight spiral and do not flutter as they gain height or depth.

Decision making: Generally makes the decisions you would want him to make. Luck will improvise when the opportunity is there. Does a good job making line calls and audibles. Is a very smart player, on par with Peyton Manning and Matt Ryan as college players. His decision making skills are everything you would want in a franchise quarterback. The biggest knock on Luck will be his lack of game experience. He has been a two-year starter at Stanford, but does not have 30+ starts. He will make mistakes and try to force plays. This is a sign of his immaturity in the position and not a flaw in his mechanics or intelligence.

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http://nflmocks.com/2010/06/30/2011-nfl-draft-scouting-report-andrew-luck-stanford/

Andrew Luck- QB- Stanford

Pros:

I am not sure if I can remember a redshirt Sophomore getting so much NFL Draft attention but Andrew Luck is gliding along on the hype train. Some draft experts are proclaiming Luck the next Peyton Manning and have settled with Luck being their top prospect. When you watch Luck there is a lot to like about the 6-4 quarterback prospect. The thing that impressed me the most was his poise and pocket awareness. Luck seemed unflappable in what was a pressure situation during this first season as a full time starter. Luck makes quick and smart decisions which is an obvious result of the tutelage from Coach Jim Harbaugh. Luck’s technique is exceptional with great footwork and no wasted motion in his throwing delivery. He gets the ball out quickly which is a very important skill to have in the NFL. Luck combines his technical skills with a strong arm and good accuracy. While watching some film I noticed that Luck is very accurate while on the run and rolling out of the pocket, which are two things he will be expected to do in the NFL.

Cons:

It is really hard to find many flaws in Luck’s game. He has all the physical tools coupled with the proper techniques. However, there is such a small sampling and he needs to prove he can maintain his high level of play over a longer stretch. It’s a known fact that quarterbacks need game experience to develop properly. They need to be able to encounter different defensive packages and schemes, so this will be something weighing on the minds of NFL scouts and GMs. Something else that is going to be closely watched this season is the way Luck responds after losing Heisman candidate Toby Gerhart. There is going to be a lot more pressure placed on the shoulders of Luck.

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/feed/2010-10/draft-dish/story/draft-dish-andrew-luck-looks-better-all-the-time

Sporting News draft expert Russ Lande and his team of former NFL scouts identify the players whose stock is rising and falling for the 2011 NFL draft:

Often when scouting NFL prospects, the more we see an elite player the more we're able to spot chinks in his body of work. That doesn't seem to apply to Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck.

The more we see of Luck, the more impressive he becomes.

Luck has looked like an NFL quarterback in every game we have evaluated, but his performance in Stanford's 37-35 win over Southern Cal was one of his best. He looked poised and confident in the pocket and showed great accuracy throughout the game. Nearly every pass he threw was on target.

Luck answered every USC comeback. He showed great composure and clutch play in driving Stanford down the field for the game-winning field goal in a minute.

He shows the arm strength to make every NFL throw and consistently makes accurate passes even with defenders in his face or throwing into tight windows downfield. Luck, as a redshirt sophomore, is eligible for the '11 draft and he no doubt will be the No. 1 overall pick whatever year he chooses to leave Stanford.

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http://www.nfldraftbible.com/Players/List/2013-Big-Board/Andrew-Luck.html

Pros: What stands out immediately about Luck is that he has one of the quickest throwing motions since Dan Marino. When Luck lets it fly his passes are laser fast and accurate—truly beautiful. Aside from that, Luck has quintessential NFL measurables; he is 6’4” and 230-plus pounds, very intelligent and instinctual. The red-shirt sophomore has wonderful footwork in his drop backs and when throwing the football. Luck has light and graceful feet that give him unexpected mobility, allowing him to almost glide through the pocket to avoid would-be sackers (he was sacked only six times in 2009). At Stanford, he is currently playing in a pro-style offense and getting pro-style coaching under Head Coach and former NFL quarterback Jim Harbaugh. That gives him a leg up on prospects that play in spread offenses with everything called from the sideline. Luck also has “it”, the ability to play well in big games and in big moments, which is a must for NFL quarterbacks. In other words, Luck does not just feast on weak Pac-10 opponents; he saves his best for the likes of USC and Oregon. Luck has a very strong arm, he is not all release; he can easily drive the ball down the field and has little trouble fitting the ball into tight windows. Not only did the Stanford signal caller put up some impressive numbers (13 touchdown passes, four interceptions), including leading the Pac-10 in passing efficiency (143.47), he won games (eight) and directed the Cardinal to their first winning season since 2001. The Texas boy also has the intangibles. The high school valedictorian is one of the brightest student athletes in the nation and despite his youth, Luck displayed leadership skills from day one, which he backs up with work ethic and toughness.

Cons: The biggest issue with Luck is his awkward throwing motion. He has a windup that causes him to drop the ball below his waist before he throws it which, unlike Tim Tebow’s, doesn’t appear to add momentum to Luck’s passes. In many ways the windup is separate from his actual throwing motion; Luck simply has to learn to **** the ball and throw. He was injured towards the end of the Cardinal’s season and will have to prove he is healthy—surgery on an injured finger in his throwing hand forced the quarterback to sit out the Sun Bowl. Luck also has to do a better job of going through his progressions before running or locking onto a single receiver. While the Stanford man had incredible moments during his red-shirt freshman year, he still needs to be more consistent. Luck’s release point is a bit to the side even under the best of circumstances.

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Most Panther fans I know would love to have Luck here. To build the offense around him.

Agreed. The Clausen pick will prove to be a waste if we get Luck. I think we trade Clausen. His value will be dependent on how he performs these last four games, imo.

If a miracle happens and he has around a 85+ qb rating these last 4 games, and puts forth a solid game, then I can see a late 2nd for him. If he does what he has done so far though, maybe a late 3rd.

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Most Panther fans I know would love to have Luck here. To build the offense around him.

Agreed. The Clausen pick will prove to be a waste if we get Luck. I think we trade Clausen. His value will be dependent on how he performs these last four games, imo.

If a miracle happens and he has around a 85+ qb rating these last 4 games, and puts forth a solid game, then I can see a late 2nd for him. If he does what he has done so far though, maybe a late 3rd.

In regards to value, coming from ND, they may consider him Brady Quinn, Part Deux.

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Clausen will be unfairly judged. He was destined to fail. Our Oline is responsible for every qb we have being injured at least once and the vanilla play calling didn't help matters. The Quinn comparisons will probably come up a lot.

I just worry that if we stick with him, then the abuse he has had to endure this season will leave him shell shocked moving forward. It's a big risk for a new HC, imo.

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yea you should say that to you and DEF to REV! all yall worry about is us saints fans.

JEEZ get off our nuts! i mean i like a BJ like anyone else but slow down :lol:

You'd like a BJ from one of the many male members of this board?

No one is going to judge you, but you might want to take your fantasies somewhere else.

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A Harbaugh + Luck combo would be similar to the Payton + Brees combo in terms of a HC doing everything it takes to make his qb look like a superstar.

New coach and rookie qb has been working well lately around the league. Even if not the first year,like in Tampa, it's definitely working.

I am kind of surprised that you guys aren't shooting for Newton. I guess winning the press conference just isn't important to Panther fans. Kudos.

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Newton is a project. A Qb that many claim to be a young Vick caliber qb, but lacks most of the speed that Vick possessed.

Up to this point, Luck is still widely considered the best qb prospect in almost two decades.

If Luck declares, we'll see how both do just before the draft. Who knows? Newton may surprise a few people.

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