theProf Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 How I See It: NFC South Stock WatchNovember, 17, 2010 9:57AM By Pat YasinskasRISING Michael Jenkins, receiver, Falcons. He’s one of those underrated guys, who doesn’t do a lot of flashy things. But Jenkins had a big catch late in the victory against Baltimore and, since his return from injury, his presence as a role player has made the entire Atlanta offense better. FALLING Harry Douglas, wide receiver, Falcons. Atlanta coaches and officials thought this would be a breakout year for Douglas, but it hasn’t been anything close to that. He largely has been a nonfactor. Douglas has been playing the slot in recent weeks and that’s where the Falcons thought he would excel, but he’s remained very quiet. http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcsouth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porkins Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 How I See It: NFC South Stock WatchNovember, 17, 2010 9:57AM By Pat YasinskasRISING Michael Jenkins, receiver, Falcons. He's one of those underrated guys, who doesn't do a lot of flashy things. But Jenkins had a big catch late in the victory against Baltimore and, since his return from injury, his presence as a role player has made the entire Atlanta offense better. FALLING Harry Douglas, wide receiver, Falcons. Atlanta coaches and officials thought this would be a breakout year for Douglas, but it hasn't been anything close to that. He largely has been a nonfactor. Douglas has been playing the slot in recent weeks and that's where the Falcons thought he would excel, but he's remained very quiet. http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcsouthI think Harry just needs this year to get his legs back under him. I wasn't really expecting him to be a major contributor the first year back after knee surgery. I do expect big things next year though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slamee101 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 It may be a confidence thing with Harry...(dropping balls) I'm hopeful that he can get it together down the stretch. Another weapon is just gonna make us that much tougher to stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crankdatfalcon Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 funny how everybody and they momma was on this board talkin about HD83 was gonna eventually take MJ12'S position this season..now yall want to come out and say they was never on the mj12 hatewagon..smh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statick Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 What needs to happen is replacing Weems with Douglas on the return teams. If he's not catching any balls with any regularity, at least use Harry's speed. I can't think of any better way to get him on the field and shake the rust off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin' In DC Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I would agree with Pat. He seems to hit it on the head all the time. You can tell he actually does his research before writing.You can see flashes of HD83 from 2 years ago and I think once he feels more confident/strong about his knee he will be back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin' In DC Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 What needs to happen is replacing Weems with Douglas on the return teams. If he's not catching any balls with any regularity, at least use Harry's speed. I can't think of any better way to get him on the field and shake the rust off.Good point. At least get the ball in his hands more than once a game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Tzu 7 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I would agree with Pat. He seems to hit it on the head all the time. You can tell he actually does his research before writing.You can see flashes of HD83 from 2 years ago and I think once he feels more confident/strong about his knee he will be backI agree.Hopefully HD83 will improve as the season goes on. At least he did have a nice catch in the Ravens game... too bad it was followed later by a drop.But the offense has come along nicely since Jenkins has been back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyHighFalcons Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I still think Douglas will come around to be a good slot. The only problem is that slot is supposed to be a position of good hands and good speed. He only had one of those at this point.I could live with MJ12 as the number 2, but I would love to see us get a new number 2 that would give us a great 1-2 receiving tandem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crankdatfalcon Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I still think Douglas will come around to be a good slot. The only problem is that slot is supposed to be a position of good hands and good speed. He only had one of those at this point.I could live with MJ12 as the number 2, but I would love to see us get a new number 2 that would give us a great 1-2 receiving tandem.its people like you who are not grateful and realize jenkins is a great #2 for us, and already gives us a great 1-2 punch. Look at tandems like fitz-boldin..did that work out for long term???no, look at chad-t.o..yea hows that working out..When one player gets all the balls thrown his way, and you have a player of equal caliber on the other side who wants the ball also, it will start to frustrate him. mj12 never complained at all, and took the role of the #2 man when we drafted roddy. He fit the #2 spot very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyHighFalcons Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 its people like you who are not grateful and realize jenkins is a great #2 for us, and already gives us a great 1-2 punch. Look at tandems like fitz-boldin..did that work out for long term???no, look at chad-t.o..yea hows that working out..When one player gets all the balls thrown his way, and you have a player of equal caliber on the other side who wants the ball also, it will start to frustrate him. mj12 never complained at all, and took the role of the #2 man when we drafted roddy. He fit the #2 spot very well.Some people... Who ever said I wanted somebody of equal talent? I just want a better option for number two because TG is going to be gone soon so one of our positions needs to improve. Roddy isn't a mouthy or cocky guy like TO or Ocho.. you can't use that example. Fitz-Boldin didn't work because the Cardinals couldn't play defense. We have a better defense than they did. MJ12 is VERY servicable, but we could be better there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SYD Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Harry is just dropping way to many passes. If he caught half the passes he has dropped he would be doing pretty good now. He drops at least 2 a game. When he does catch the ball he usually makes pretty good gains.This should be fixable Roddy and Finn used to drop alot of passes early in their careers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crankdatfalcon Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Some people... Who ever said I wanted somebody of equal talent? I just want a better option for number two because TG is going to be gone soon so one of our positions needs to improve. Roddy isn't a mouthy or cocky guy like TO or Ocho.. you can't use that example. Fitz-Boldin didn't work because the Cardinals couldn't play defense. We have a better defense than they did. MJ12 is VERY servicable, but we could be better there.so you want someone with better talent then roddy????I dont understand what exactly you say you want. Look around at other #2's in the nfl now and choose someone that you think is better than mj12, and fits into our system and will not #itch and moan if he doesnt get the ball..and fitz-boldin worked because they were in the superbowl with that defense so i dont know what you are referring too.Its not about having a cocky player, if we a player of t.o's caliber who thinks he can be a number 1 anywhere else, and doesnt get the ball as much as he wants, he's gonna become mouthy..mj12 is far from that regardless of if he gets the ball or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phattywankenobi Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 This isn't anything shocking by any means. Typically Ryan targets White then Gonzo then Jenkins and Snelling is picking up a lot of passes so that doesn't leave a whole lot left. Ryan seems to predetermine who he is throwing to and obviously there is a certain progression but sadly I've seen HD beat his man and stand there in the endzone on a few occasions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporkdevil Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 What needs to happen is replacing Weems with Douglas on the return teams. If he's not catching any balls with any regularity, at least use Harry's speed. I can't think of any better way to get him on the field and shake the rust off.I don't know how much we need a guy coming back from injury to play in a dangerous position of returning kicks. He may come on more in the next few games once he really gets adjusted and healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyHighFalcons Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 so you want someone with better talent then roddy????I dont understand what exactly you say you want. Look around at other #2's in the nfl now and choose someone that you think is better than mj12, and fits into our system and will not #itch and moan if he doesnt get the ball..and fitz-boldin worked because they were in the superbowl with that defense so i dont know what you are referring too.Its not about having a cocky player, if we a player of t.o's caliber who thinks he can be a number 1 anywhere else, and doesnt get the ball as much as he wants, he's gonna become mouthy..mj12 is far from that regardless of if he gets the ball or not.Don't put words in my mouth when they're not even close to anything I said. I'm obviously saying I want some with better talent than MJ12. Now all of a sudden he is the best number 2 in the league? Not a chance.And you just contradicted the **** out of yourself. First you said Fitz-Boldin didn't work, then when I say it didn't work because of the defense you tell me that Fitz-Boldin worked? Make up your mind, did Fitz-Boldin work or not?Why do you keep bringing TO into this? There are better options for number 2 that wouldn't ***** than MJ12, and I never even once mentioned TO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanka Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Jenkins truly has helped this offense, and should have silenced the haters. Douglas needs to catch the ball a couple of times in a row. Regain his confidence and then maybe he could be a factor later on in the season. He has all the potential in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dedsquirl Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Meier looked good in TC.Douglas is only a year removed from knee surgery.Weems has a nice play now and again.Jenkins is coming back nicely.Finneran is CLUTCH.White is the man.Palmer has been looking pretty good for an UDFA.Gonzalez is still money and ain't retired yet.I don't see us spending a pick in this area until well into day two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Pickle1 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 funny how everybody and they momma was on this board talkin about HD83 was gonna eventually take MJ12'S position this season..now yall want to come out and say they was never on the mj12 hatewagon..smh...Both are subpar for their place on the depth chart. Jenks is a good no. 3, and Douglas would be as solid no. 4/returner. We need another wr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statick Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I don't know how much we need a guy coming back from injury to play in a dangerous position of returning kicks. He may come on more in the next few games once he really gets adjusted and healthy.Harry's already taken some big hits this season. He seems pretty healthy to withstand taking that role again. He needs a wake up and I believe putting him back there will do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerosmith67 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 This isn't anything shocking by any means. Typically Ryan targets White then Gonzo then Jenkins and Snelling is picking up a lot of passes so that doesn't leave a whole lot left. Ryan seems to predetermine who he is throwing to and obviously there is a certain progression but sadly I've seen HD beat his man and stand there in the endzone on a few occasions.I've seen HD beat his man and then have the ball thrown to him in critical situations and he's failed to catch the ball. Why would being in the endzone make it any different? HD is having issues this year, but if we've learned anything from Roddy it's not time to write him off, maybe it's just time to give others that ARE performing more chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dharma Initiative Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 funny how everybody and they momma was on this board talkin about HD83 was gonna eventually take MJ12'S position this season..now yall want to come out and say they was never on the mj12 hatewagon..smh...Agreed, I said all offseason it was silly to think Douglas would be a legit #2 over Jenkins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crankdatfalcon Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Don't put words in my mouth when they're not even close to anything I said. I'm obviously saying I want some with better talent than MJ12. Now all of a sudden he is the best number 2 in the league? Not a chance.And you just contradicted the **** out of yourself. First you said Fitz-Boldin didn't work, then when I say it didn't work because of the defense you tell me that Fitz-Boldin worked? Make up your mind, did Fitz-Boldin work or not?Why do you keep bringing TO into this? There are better options for number 2 that wouldn't ***** than MJ12, and I never even once mentioned TO.no, actually u said boldin and fitz didnt work out because of their defense...i corrected you and said it did work out because obviously they went to a superbowl together. Had nothing to do with the defense. Boldin felt he could be a #1 somewhere else, and wanted a long term contract. Please get your facts straight before you want to go back and forth with me. and i keep bringing T.O in this because him and chad are a 1-2 punch that you seem to want us to have. Not the players, but the talent. And i said, look how that is working out now..Do you not read whole post or just read what you want too??? And you still failed to mention any #2's out their right now better than mj12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crankdatfalcon Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Agreed, I said all offseason it was silly to think Douglas would be a legit #2 over Jenkins.yea you were one who defended jenks during the offseason.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerosmith67 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Agreed, I said all offseason it was silly to think Douglas would be a legit #2 over Jenkins.He might be given another year, HD is really only a 2nd year player. It's pointless to argue who's better though considering they're on the same team and compliment each other in their skill sets. Jenks had a lousy year last year much like HD is having this year, something to keep in mind though when talking about these players is that it's only been a handful of games where the Offense has had: Gonzo, Jenks, White, HD, Turner, Snelling and Finn playing as a complete unit. (since the Eagles game. ) Let's wait and see how they all mesh together before getting too worked up over any players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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