Ok Bucs and Falcons fans, make your case

[freebird587]

Not true. Cause all we need to do is beat ur *** in ur ****** dome and the div is ours!

its week 9,so how d you figure that IF we split this year,the division is yours?...and dont come back predicting the future games,because i know it will be bias...you should worry about the panthers before going into your bye,and stop worring so much about us...youll get your shot week 13,but you have 3 more games to play before that...worry about those

[falconsd56]

Not true. Cause all we need to do is beat ur *** in ur ****** dome and the div is ours!

ummm no.

Assuming the pace stays at what it is in terms of both teams winning/losing.

And the saints be a the falcons in the GA dome ( fat chance if we are healthy).

The falcons would STILL have the upper hand in the division.... why?

Because Common opponents are a big tie breaker...We actually beat the cards and the Browns the saints got humiliated by both.

The ONLY way the saints are going to win the division is for the saints to have a strait up better record.

As of now ( and it is still very very early to even talking about this) Even if the saints do beat the falcons ( again if we are healthy , almost no chance at that)

The falcons hold tie breakers over the saints.

[falconsd56]

Dude, it's 2010 do you realize how much the Bucs have changed since last season??? Do you realize how much they've changed since two weeks ago???

You're in for a rude awakening... the dirty birds will be fed dirt this Sunday...

ummm You mean letting Derrick Anderson look like a probowler?

[nolafan33]

ummm no.

Assuming the pace stays at what it is in terms of both teams winning/losing.

And the saints be a the falcons in the GA dome ( fat chance if we are healthy).

The falcons would STILL have the upper hand in the division.... why?

Because Common opponents are a big tie breaker...We actually beat the cards and the Browns the saints got humiliated by both.

The ONLY way the saints are going to win the division is for the saints to have a strait up better record.

As of now ( and it is still very very early to even talking about this) Even if the saints do beat the falcons ( again if we are healthy , almost no chance at that)

The falcons hold tie breakers over the saints.

What about the Saints health? The list goes on and on to guys who have missed games because of injury or have been hampered due to injuries. Even with that, we sit at 5-3 and the Falcons are 5-2 I believe. I'd be willing to bet if both teams stay healthy and don't suffer a devistating injury (as in Brees for the Saints) that weeks 16 and 17 could decide who wins the division. Though I must say, I fully expect the Saints and Falcons to finish 1-2 in the divison and both make the playoffs.

[falconsd56]

IF?????????????? If my aunt had a ***** she'd be my uncle!

Hey JB no reason to talk about saints fans like that...... :P :P

Who am I kidding .... most of them don't have a... well never mind.

But honestly If the falcons dont turn the ball over the bucs have no chance.

Do you think the defense is going to suddenly rise up and stop the run?

Even if you do you will have to bring an extra man down in the box and then you risk leaving one on one with White, Gonzo or jenkins.

And as good as Barber has been ( imo first ballot HOF) at this stage in career would you want him one on one with Roddy White? What about Alib... who is a good corner and has some picks but also has been burnt BIG TIME this year? Do you trust Sabby "pissonbelly" ( as you called him) to stop Tony Gonzalez?

The only way the bucs stop the run is to "sell out" and with White, Gonzo ( who still has a good bit left in the tank... just ask the saints CORNERS) and Jenkins who has looked very good since coming back from injury....that is not a good proposition for bucs.

[falconsd56]

What about the Saints health? The list goes on and on to guys who have missed games because of injury or have been hampered due to injuries. Even with that, we sit at 5-3 and the Falcons are 5-2 I believe. I'd be willing to bet if both teams stay healthy and don't suffer a devistating injury (as in Brees for the Saints) that weeks 16 and 17 could decide who wins the division. Though I must say, I fully expect the Saints and Falcons to finish 1-2 in the divison and both make the playoffs.

Like I said the ONLY way for the saints to win the division is to have a better record then the falcons.

Because as of right now if the pace is kept up and the saints beat the falcons on monday night.the falcons still hold tie breaker.... why??

Because we beat not one but TWO common opponents the saints lost too.

If you are referring to the comment I made about health of the falcons.... very simple the falcons when healthy are ALMOST unbeatable at home.

Ryan is 16-1 and is a dropped pass from being 17-0.

[nolafan33]

Like I said the ONLY way for the saints to win the division is to have a better record then the falcons.

Because as of right now if the pace is kept up and the saints beat the falcons on monday night.the falcons still hold tie breaker.... why??

Because we beat not one but TWO common opponents the saints lost too.

If you are referring to the comment I made about health of the falcons.... very simple the falcons when healthy are ALMOST unbeatable at home.

Ryan is 16-1 and is a dropped pass from being 17-0.

I'd say the Falcons remaining schedule is tougher than the Saints remaining.

vs Tampa

vs Baltimore

@ St. Louis

vs Green Bay

@ Tampa

@ Carolina

@ Seattle

vs New Orleans

vs Carolina

That's a physical schedule. I'd say it all starts with 5 of your remaining 9 being against NFC South opponents. If you know anything about NFC South football, it's that the games are brutally physical and the Falcons could come away from those games physically beat up, long injury lists, lots of bruises, maybe even some loses. I'd also not skip the fact that 4 of those games come in your last 5 matchups, again brutal. You could lose the division just in those games. Then you have to play Baltimore, who is a physically exhausting team, home or away, some consider them the best in the league. Then you have St. Louis and Seattle at their places, who are a combined 7-1 at home. The 9ers played yall tough and probably should have defeated yall in the Dome, if not for Clements forgetting the #1 rule of football, so why can't St. Louis and Seattle play yall tough at their own places? Then you have Green Bay who is VERY good, but yall get them in the Georgia Dome. None of those are gimees, and while they won't, those are all games the Falcons could lose.

I won't take a look at the Saints schedule, because we've obviously already proven no game is a gimee.

[Shredman]

What makes you solid??? Because you beat a division rival???

Even the 3-13 Bucs beat them at least once last year. You're in for a big surprise buddy...

what makes us solid ????

are you stoned or just stupid

Pro Bowl QB

Pro Bowl RB

Pro Bowl WR

Pro Bowl TE

Pro Bowl DE

Pro Bowl DT

Pro Bowl CB

Pro Bowl FS

2 Pro Bowl LBs

top 10 at least in run o, run d, PA, INTs, FG % , 3rd down % on o and D

and the best Coaching Staff in the NFC South

if that dont say Solid i dont know what does man....

jesus i wonder if some of you idiots even watch the NFL

the only way i will be surprised is if we dont crush you by 4 TDs.....

Buddy lmao

wait a sec, you have 9 total post lmao...

why am i even talking to you lol

[nolafan33]

what makes us solid ????

are you stoned or just stupid

Pro Bowl RB

Pro Bowl WR

Pro Bowl TE

Pro Bowl DE

top 10 at least in run o, run d, PA, INTs, FG % , 3rd down % on o and D

if that dont say Solid i dont know what does man....

jesus i wonder if some of you idiots even watch the NFL

the only way i will be surprised is if we dont crush you by 4 TDs.....

Buddy lmao

wait a sec, you have 9 total post lmao...

why am i even talking to you lol

Come on shred, for starters I fixed your probowl statements. Secondly, you should know that making the probowl while may be a honor, doesn't mean your a all pro type player. I'll admit that Jon Stinchcomb made the team last season, but he isn't a allpro lineman. I also fixed your best coaching staff in the South statement, which you know isn't true.

I agree that the "what makes the Falcons solid?" statement was stupid, but you have some nontruths in your post.

Lastly, what does post count have to do with someones knowledge of the game? That statement by you is dumber than the "what makes the Falcons solid?" statement.

Edited November 6, 2010 by nolafan33

[Shredman]

Come on shred, for starters I fixed your probowl statements. Secondly, you should know that making the probowl while may be a honor, doesn't mean your a all pro type player. I'll admit that Jon Stinchcomb made the team last season, but he isn't a allpro lineman. I also fixed your best coaching staff in the South statement, which you know isn't true.

I agree that the "what makes the Falcons solid?" statement was stupid, but you have some nontruths in your post.

Lastly, what does post count have to do with someones knowledge of the game? That statement by you is dumber than the "what makes the Falcons solid?" statement.

no i dont

Ryan, Babs , Lofton and Moore will all make pro bowl this yr

Pete is a 2 time pro bowler DRob is also went to a pro bowl and Grimes should have went last yr..oh and i forgot about Ovie, hes only the best FB in the Entire NFL....please do your homework bro

and come on man, a dude creates an account this week and he all of a sudden deserves respect ?????

we wont see him here again after 4 pm tomorrow

if he thinks Bucs will walk in dome and make Falcons eat dirt was it ????

he has zero football knowledge

esp considering there is no dirt in Dome lmao

[nolafan33]

no i dont

Ryan, Babs , Lofton and Moore will all make pro bowl this yr

Pete is a 2 time pro bowler DRob is also went to a pro bowl and Grimes should have went last yr..oh and i forgot about Ovie, hes only the best FB in the Entire NFL....please do your homework bro

and come on man, a dude creates an account this week and he all of a sudden deserves respect ?????

we wont see him here again after 4 pm tomorrow

if he thinks Bucs will walk in dome and make Falcons eat dirt was it ????

he has zero football knowledge

esp considering there is no dirt in Dome lmao

So just because you think (and Ryan most certaintly will not) they will makes them probowl caliber players? Come on shred, your seriously reaching, and your better than this. I'm all for your argument, I'll even side with you, IF you can find a better way to state it.

[Guest Gritz]

Everyone, including Florio, likes to point to the fact that Tampa Bay has not beaten anybody with a winning record. Well, Atlanta is in a similar boat.

We still won't have a win against a decent team after we win tomorrow.

I guess we'll have to wait until the Ravens get here Thursday.

[Guest Gritz]

Joe, after all thge B.S. I see being spewed over on TATF (especially re: how great their QB is) I'll simply say this:

Matt Ryan's career stats against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers (4 games):

QB Rating: 56.2

TDs: 2

INTs: 6

Sacks: 7

Greatness?????????? Hardly!

You've posted this like 12 times in the past day and a half....

[Shredman]

So just because you think (and Ryan most certaintly will not) they will makes them probowl caliber players? Come on shred, your seriously reaching, and your better than this. I'm all for your argument, I'll even side with you, IF you can find a better way to state it.

dude to this point what 3 qbs in NFC have played better than ryan ?????

not even your own MVP QB has played as good as Ryan in 2010....

Romo wont make it because of Injury

Favre ??? yea right

McNabb ??? he was just benched

Rodgers has throw alot of picks he will be there tho

Right now the pro bowl QBs would be

Ryan

Rodgers

Vick

and a bad game vs colts for Vick sunday will take him outa the debate...

i can not believe you would go there with Ryan , when he has Clearly out played your own Brees

[SaintsWrath]

LOL@ People bringing up the past and predicting the future in this thread already positioning themselves for a suicidal watch if it doesn't go their way..

Listen, just hope your team win this Sunday, this game is created where any team can take it to another team any given Sunday, these are grown men, this is not a Madden Video game where stat's dominate who will beat who..

Buc's have as much of a chance to smack the Falcons as much as they do with any other team in the NFL..

I hope the players go into this game with their heads in the clouds and thinking they can just Will a win tomorrow, The Buccaneer Pirates will be having a New side-kick-(B!tch) sitting on their shoulder.

[Shredman]

if Bucs can come in to Dome where only 1 other team has won in 3 yrs with Ryan Starting, i will give them the respect they deserve and say hey they are legit and have a chance to win south.....

But if Bucs get Smacked, will we see the same from you ????

will we even see you ? lol

[Guest jb aka johnnybuc]

You've posted this like 12 times in the past day and a half....

You should stay over on TATF with the rest of the homers.

[Guest jb aka johnnybuc]

if Bucs can come in to Dome where only 1 other team has won in 3 yrs with Ryan Starting, i will give them the respect they deserve and say hey they are legit and have a chance to win south.....

But if Bucs get Smacked, will we see the same from you ????

will we even see you ? lol

PUHLEASE!!!!

[Shredman]

PUHLEASE!!!!

wasnt talking to you , i know you will be around, the guy with 9 post is who i was talking too.....

you wont be happy and may wait a day or so, but i am sure we will see you lol.....

[Shredman]

no i dont

and come on man, a dude creates an account this week and he all of a sudden deserves respect ?????

we wont see him here again after 4 pm tomorrow

wheres he at ???????

LMAO

[REV.2000]

Dude, it's 2010 do you realize how much the Bucs have changed since last season??? Do you realize how much they've changed since two weeks ago???

You're in for a rude awakening... the dirty birds will be fed dirt this Sunday...

YOU WERE SAYING .....

[REV.2000]

LOL@ People bringing up the past and predicting the future in this thread already positioning themselves for a suicidal watch if it doesn't go their way..

Listen, just hope your team win this Sunday, this game is created where any team can take it to another team any given Sunday, these are grown men, this is not a Madden Video game where stat's dominate who will beat who..

Buc's have as much of a chance to smack the Falcons as much as they do with any other team in the NFL..

I hope the players go into this game with their heads in the clouds and thinking they can just Will a win tomorrow, The Buccaneer Pirates will be having a New side-kick-(B!tch) sitting on their shoulder.

YOUR HONOR ... THE DEFENSE REST ITS CASE!

[REV.2000]

You make a good barrister REV2!

CASE DISMISSED!

[SaintK]

Yep!

Nope

[REV.2000]

Then we will come back to REFS BLEW IT! THESE REFS SUCK. NFL IS RIGGED!

MY, MY, MY!