Stay classy Grantham

[TroubleDawg]

Grantham can coach HIS kids in whatever manner he chooses -- but there is NO REASON WHATSOEVER that he should be addressing the opposing players in the manner he did last Saturday. He knows it. Mark Richt knows it. And most every college football fan outside of Athens knows it.

Funny how this thread started off as justifying the actions of Grantham as being him signaling in a play. It now has evolved into justifying Grantham doing anything short of physically abusing a player on the opposing team.

Just another example of how soft America has turned itself into.

Telling a man (18 and over is considered a man to me since Ive seen 18 yr old men die on the battlefield), to choke is anything short of physical abuse? Man what a bunch of *******. To thse who feel that way, please untuck your balls.

Its a rivalry game. The kicker made the kick and then proceeded to jump around and point to our fans. Thats fine with me as well as all the other UGA fans. Did the kicker feel threatened by Grantham's gestures? No. Then why the **** should we have a problem with it?

Edited November 3, 2010 by Ealey24

[CrimsonKat]

Just another example of how soft America has turned itself into.

Telling a man (18 and over is considered a man to me since Ive seen 18 yr old men die on the battlefield), to choke is anything short of physical abuse? Man what a bunch of *******. Untuck your balls.

Its a rivalry game. The kicker made the kick and then proceeded to jump around and point to our fans. Thats fine with me as well as all the other UGA fans. Did the kicker feel threatened by Grantham's gestures? No. They why the **** should we?

I am not in any way offended by Grantham's actions. But I do not approve of that kind of conduct from a man who is charged with mentoring student athletes. That has nothing to do with being soft -- it has a lot to do with being professional.

And you need to tone down some of your comments. We are all just giving our thoughts on an internet message board. There is no need to make your comments personal.

[CrimsonKat]

While your attempt at humor is not without highlights, it is inaccurate. "I'm a man, I'm OVER 40" and I've played football for some seriously tough coaches in my lifetime. But being tough isn't the same thing as being an embarrasment. Ranting, raving, lunatics do not accomplish anything that a cold stare accompanied by a low growling voice that explains in detail exactly what type of behavior and performance is going to be accepted by the players on the team. The more stuff you do to take attention away from what you're actually trying to say, the less chance you have of getting the results you are demanding. You can be extremely tough without creating any wild displays of temper or rage.

I'm not offended by him breaking the white board. I think there are people who believe they have to react in certain ways to get the response they are looking for. I don't agree that he could only get his message through by being a raving maniac. It's easy to be very tough on the players and hold them accountable without making a spectacle of himself, but if that's how he does it and his boss is okay with it then it's no skin off of my back. To me the UGA fans are so happy to see some fire from their DC as opposed to years past that they think some of his antics are necessary to get the players to play well. I don't think that is true, but if they think that Grantham destroying things on the sideline is what is necessary, then let him have at it. But he can get his message accross without doing that type of stuff if he chooses to do so. Everybody can learn and grow as they go through phases in life.

The choke sign was out of bounds, IMO. It's a totally different situation on various levels. And I think he should be punished for doing it. I'm not talking about firing him, or sitting him down for the rest of the season; just saying that Richt needs to send a message to grantham that college football is different from the pro's and that UGA is going to hold itself to higher standards than that. In my mind I can see Richt interviewing Grantham last year and explaining that the defense needed a fire lit under them after dealing with the previous DC for so long. And Grantham is doing what he can to deliver that to Richt and UGA. But there are restrictions on what is acceptable behavior, and making the choke sign toward an opposing player while also shouting at him and saying "you're gonna ***%#@@@ choke" crosses a line that shouldn't ever be crossed, especialy at the college level.

Well said. I agree on all points.

[Xnex]

Just another example of how soft America has turned itself into.

Telling a man (18 and over is considered a man to me since Ive seen 18 yr old men die on the battlefield), to choke is anything short of physical abuse? Man what a bunch of *******. Untuck your balls.

Its a rivalry game. The kicker made the kick and then proceeded to jump around and point to our fans. Thats fine with me as well as all the other UGA fans. Did the kicker feel threatened by Grantham's gestures? No. They why the **** should we?

This isn't about toughness; just because some people think what Grantham did was absolutely unacceptable doesn't mean that they aren't tough. It's about maintaining some class and integrity, and holding the leaders of your program accountable. Just because something isn't threatning doesn't mean it is in any way acceptable. If you want and expect the student athletes to behave like men, then you should certainly expect it of your coach's.

I can't make you see it my way, and you can't make me see it yours. Suffice to say that both of us feel strongly that we are on the right side of this debate.

[Des-pool]

The de-masculation of America continues, one play at a time.

I think it is just a matter of Grantham coming from the NFL and not adjusting to the college game. Not really that big a deal as it is being made out. College ranks are having a slow week, while the NFL is having a field day in the news with the Moss release. If there was some Oregon player punching someone, or a QB throwing laptops out of windows and then getting released, or a wide receiver texting death threats to his girlfriend, then this wouldn't even be a blip on the radar.

Dumb, yes, but a huge deal that Barnhart makes it out to be, not really. But hey...gotta sell papers, right?

[TroubleDawg]

I am not in any way offended by Grantham's actions. But I do not approve of that kind of conduct from a man who is charged with mentoring student athletes. That has nothing to do with being soft -- it has a lot to do with being professional.

And you need to tone down some of your comments. We are all just giving our thoughts on an internet message board. There is no need to make your comments personal.

I will tone down my comments when I feel its time to tone them down, Not you slim. Dont know who you think you were talking to but you got me confused.

Anyways back on topic, Grantham got caught up in the moment like he said. Every single coach in the NCAA has done something unprofessional. Grantham had his moment.

Its over. Lets play football.

[TroubleDawg]

This isn't about toughness; just because some people think what Grantham did was absolutely unacceptable doesn't mean that they aren't tough. It's about maintaining some class and integrity, and holding the leaders of your program accountable. Just because something isn't threatning doesn't mean it is in any way acceptable. If you want and expect the student athletes to behave like men, then you should certainly expect it of your coach's.

I can't make you see it my way, and you can't make me see it yours. Suffice to say that both of us feel strongly that we are on the right side of this debate.

Agreed Xnex.

Do us all a favor and beat them Gators!

[CrimsonKat]

I will tone down my comments when I feel its time to tone them down, Not you slim. Dont know who you think you were talking to but you got me confused.

Anyways back on topic, Grantham got caught up in the moment like he said. Every single coach in the NCAA has done something unprofessional. Grantham had his moment.

Its over. Lets play football.

You have a lot of growing up to do, kid. Good luck to you.

[Nicolae]

Did Grantham try to gouge out his eyes? Did he tell one of his players to gouge out someone's eyes in the pile? Did he tell or text Henry, "Time to choke, *****? No?

We're good here, then.

[Xnex]

Did Grantham try to gouge out his eyes? Did he tell one of his players to gouge out someone's eyes in the pile? Did he tell or text Henry, "Time to choke, *****? No?

We're good here, then.

You shouldn't ever compare your indiscretions to someone else's just to make yours appear to be less than they are. It looks bad, and it only leads to more garbage happening. Just because I get convicted for murder doesn't make your offense of armed robbery any less offensive. You don't want to be in a situation in which you have to compare yourself to someone or something you hate in order to make yourself look better; because then you pick up some of the stink coming off of the other guy. Each incident is isolated and stands on its' own.

[Threepac Daddy]

Did Grantham try to gouge out his eyes? Did he tell one of his players to gouge out someone's eyes in the pile? Did he tell or text Henry, "Time to choke, *****? No?

We're good here, then.

this has to be the dumbest or the most ******** post about the subject about this article. what spikes did was stupid, but happens when players pile up on each other. heck other players have told the media what happens to each other in those piles.

[itsjustafleshwound]

this has to be the dumbest or the most ******** post about the subject about this article.

Do you read your own comments? In all seriousness though, we all say some pretty stupid things. Its generally what happens when we are so desperate to defend something which can not reasonably defended. But in this case, I think I agree with you that the comment was not in any way an effectual argument.

[Deacon 13]

The de-masculation of America continues, one play at a time.

I think it is just a matter of Grantham coming from the NFL and not adjusting to the college game. Not really that big a deal as it is being made out. College ranks are having a slow week, while the NFL is having a field day in the news with the Moss release. If there was some Oregon player punching someone, or a QB throwing laptops out of windows and then getting released, or a wide receiver texting death threats to his girlfriend, then this wouldn't even be a blip on the radar.

Dumb, yes, but a huge deal that Barnhart makes it out to be, not really. But hey...gotta sell papers, right?

What's masculine about acting like a jack@ss? :blink:

Edited November 3, 2010 by Deacon 13

[TroubleDawg]

You have a lot of growing up to do, kid. Good luck to you.

More grown than you will ever be, son.

[Threepac Daddy]

More grown than you will ever be, son.

mines bigger than yours :blink: :unsure:

[Deacon 13]

mines bigger than yours :blink: :unsure:

I know you are but what am I ......

[Threepac Daddy]

I know you are but what am I ......

a mini tripod :unsure:

[SacFalcFan]

I know you are but what am I ......

sticks and stones may break my bones, but names or whining about a choke sign will never hurt me. :P

[TroubleDawg]

mines bigger than yours

Could Be. If so, congrats!

[Dawgy]

Can we PLEASE end this thread now. .......

[Bryant Denny]

I am not in any way offended by Grantham's actions. But I do not approve of that kind of conduct from a man who is charged with mentoring student athletes. That has nothing to do with being soft -- it has a lot to do with being professional.

And you need to tone down some of your comments. We are all just giving our thoughts on an internet message board. There is no need to make your comments personal.

Exactly, this was another teams player. if a Georgia player were doing it then it would be one thing but for the DC to be acting like that is unprofessional to say the least. What cracks me up the most is if it had been an Alabama or Florida coach these boards would have been full of threads ripping them apart.

[SacFalcFan]

mines bigger than yours :blink: :unsure:

please don't have a brett farve moment.

[CrimsonKat]

Exactly, this was another teams player. if a Georgia player were doing it then it would be one thing but for the DC to be acting like that is unprofessional to say the least. What cracks me up the most is if it had been an Alabama or Florida coach these boards would have been full of threads ripping them apart.

It is pretty funny to hear the Georgia fans defending this issue. And a point that may have been missed in all of this, if Grantham's defense had not made Florida's anemic offense look like worldbeaters, there would have been no need to call for the "choke" in overtime.

[Isosceles]

It is pretty funny to hear the Georgia fans defending this issue. And a point that may have been missed in all of this, if Grantham's defense had not made Florida's anemic offense look like worldbeaters, there would have been no need to call for the "choke" in overtime.

Georgia has become just about laughable this whole seasaon. One thing after the other after the other.

As a GT fan, I'm glad to see the Bulldogs fail so miserably on the football field. Yes, I fear they'll kick the Jackets' a.z.z.es in Athens. But this group of coaches - as a unit- will not get it done. No titles, no SEC titles and you can forget any BCS title with this group.

J

[ChuyDawg]

It is pretty funny to hear the Georgia fans defending this issue. And a point that may have been missed in all of this, if Grantham's defense had not made Florida's anemic offense look like worldbeaters, there would have been no need to call for the "choke" in overtime.

Yeah, very hillarious.

I will say one thing though. Lets say my kid is fortunate enough to play big boy football. I would much rather my son face an opposing coach who gives him the choking sign, throw in some cuss words in there too, I don't care. I would rather my son face that kind of adversity as opposed to being told he has to take a grayshirt, have the Head Coach leave for another job in the middle of the night, be forced to take a medical hardship, being told that his scholly will not be renewed because he didn't quite live up to the "coaches standards." But that's just me.

Plenty of people will defend this and plenty of people will criticize this. I personally think this is big boy football. You should not watch if something like this offends you.