Stay classy Grantham

[CrimsonKat]

Special teams responsibilities is distributed amongst the coaches so possibly. All I'm saying is that I've seen him make this signal all year. If Richt comes out and says that he was doing anything other than a signal, I'll believe it then. I highly suspect that this question will be presented to Richt and I highly doubt that Richt would lie about it. If Richt does confirm some fans' suspicions, I'll admit I was wrong and that Grantham was out of line. Though in that case, I'd be pretty confused as to why I've seen that signal before.

You were wrong. See Richt's comments from today on the choke sign:

“I’m aware of it, and I would just say that emotions run high,” Richt said. “People do things they probably wish they didn’t do. I think that was what was being communicated. I don’t think he’s necessarily proud of it. We’re just going to learn from it and move on.”

[Deacon 13]

smh at grantham, you expect better sportsmanship out of a coach than this, yes its the heat of the game, but your a coach and you gotta keep your composure. if this was urban or any coach doing this to walsh the entire fan base would calling for his head no doubt.

From a Gator fan...between Spurrier and Meyer, you got no room to talk about coaches and better sportsmanship.

[Threepac Daddy]

From a Gator fan...between Spurrier and Meyer, you got no room to talk about coaches and better sportsmanship.

neither does uga fans.

[Deacon 13]

neither does uga fans.

:blink: Really, you think the "choke" and the "stomp" even comes close to adding up to what Spurrier did for years. Running up the score qualifies as poor sportsmanship in most peoples' book.

But again, it's just a game, so there ya go.

[Threepac Daddy]

:blink: Really, you think the "choke" and the "stomp" even comes close to adding up to what Spurrier did for years. Running up the score qualifies as poor sportsmanship in most peoples' book.

But again, it's just a game, so there ya go.

spurrier ran up the score, it was funny to watch, but poor sportsmanship. the stomp and chocke are on different levels of sportsmanship all together

[Deacon 13]

spurrier ran up the score, it was funny to watch, but poor sportsmanship. the stomp and chocke are on different levels of sportsmanship all together

Agree to disagree I guess.

The choke sign is way out of line. That's for sure.

I'd say the stomp and calling extra timeouts at the end of a blowout are a wash.

Running up the score ever chance you get, not just against UGA, adds up to alot.

And personally, I think it's all a pretty poor way to conduct oneself.

Edited November 2, 2010 by Deacon 13

[Billy Ocean]

Self-righteous indignation is one of the more off-putting human characteristics. I'm not directing this at any individual or fan-base but rather humanity as a whole. So, um, put that in your pipe and smoke it, humanity!

[itsjustafleshwound]

You were wrong. See Richt's comments from today on the choke sign:

“I’m aware of it, and I would just say that emotions run high,” Richt said. “People do things they probably wish they didn’t do. I think that was what was being communicated. I don’t think he’s necessarily proud of it. We’re just going to learn from it and move on.”

Well, then I was wrong and Grantham was out of line. What more is there to say?

[jtcrews75]

Maybe I'm just blind to it but I really don't see anything wrong with this. If the shoe were on the other foot (I wish it were) and UF's coach was doing this I could honestly say that I wouldn't give a bleep.

[Born Again Georgian]

UF vs UGA, the new Nazi Germany vs Soviet Union. Or Alien vs Predator perhaps.

[Red Bandana]

4 pages? wow I didnt think this was gonna be a big deal. It's not like he tried to take an eyeball out

[unconquered.]

4 pages? wow I didnt think this was gonna be a big deal. It's not like he tried to take an eyeball out

"TIME TO DIE"

[Gritzblitz 2.0]

4 pages? wow I didnt think this was gonna be a big deal. It's not like he tried to take an eyeball out

It seems that the only person who wasn't bothered by this was the kicker it was directed towards. If Chas Henry got his panties in as much of a bind as some of the people here, that kick would have never had a chance.

[itsjustafleshwound]

It seems that the only person who wasn't bothered by this was the kicker it was directed towards. If Chas Henry got his panties in as much of a bind as some of the people here, that kick would have never had a chance.

Too bad it didn't upset him, huh? I still don't like what he did and if he does it again, he should be fined, but its time to move on. I know why its a big deal to Florida fans and it has nothing to do with the act itself but rather with their desire to get back at Georgia fans for the criticism of Meyer's treatment of Rainey.

[CrimsonKat]

It seems that the only person who wasn't bothered by this was the kicker it was directed towards. If Chas Henry got his panties in as much of a bind as some of the people here, that kick would have never had a chance.

I don't think anybody would have ever noticed it had Chas Henry not noted in his post-game interview that Georgia's coaches were telling him he was going to choke. I think that comment prompted a further review.

And to put a cap on it, I do not advocate any kind of discipline for Grantham on this. However, to be clear, this was a bush league move that you expect coaches like Lane Kiffin to make, not a coach with a solid reputation like Grantham.

[CrimsonKat]

Good read from Tony Barnhart, a Georgia grad I might add, on the Todd Grantham situation. It echoes my sentiments exactly regarding a coach attempting to intimidate a student-athlete for an opposing team. Barnhart goes so far as to say that Grantham should be suspended, fined, and receive a reprimand that future offenses of this nature are grounds for termination.

Barnhart: "Grantham should be suspended and fined -- now"

[Xnex]

I don't think anybody would have ever noticed it had Chas Henry not noted in his post-game interview that Georgia's coaches were telling him he was going to choke. I think that comment prompted a further review.

And to put a cap on it, I do not advocate any kind of discipline for Grantham on this. However, to be clear, this was a bush league move that you expect coaches like Lane Kiffin to make, not a coach with a solid reputation like Grantham.

Very well said in that last sentence, I think.

[Xnex]

Good read from Tony Barnhart, a Georgia grad I might add, on the Todd Grantham situation. It echoes my sentiments exactly regarding a coach attempting to intimidate a student-athlete for an opposing team. Barnhart goes so far as to say that Grantham should be suspended, fined, and receive a reprimand that future offenses of this nature are grounds for termination.

Barnhart: "Grantham should be suspended and fined -- now"

I'll be awfully interested to see the reactions here to Barnhart's article. Nobody can call him a hack, or a hater as he is revered by many people here who follow college football. Of course, I think the guy can be wrong just as easily as anyone else, but he is very well respected.

[TroubleDawg]

Whoever is offended with what Grantham did is a straight up VAG-I-NA!

This is bigtime football. Henry is a 21 year old man. He drilled the kick, game over and so should this issue.

[Ransack]

Good read from Tony Barnhart, a Georgia grad I might add, on the Todd Grantham situation. It echoes my sentiments exactly regarding a coach attempting to intimidate a student-athlete for an opposing team. Barnhart goes so far as to say that Grantham should be suspended, fined, and receive a reprimand that future offenses of this nature are grounds for termination.

Barnhart: "Grantham should be suspended and fined -- now"

What a joke....

[Xnex]

Whoever is offended with what Grantham did is a straight up VAG-I-NA!

This is bigtime football. Henry is a 21 year old man. He drilled the kick, game over and so should this issue.

I disagree with you, in a really big way. Were it a UGA player, then it's something that "just happened"; but when it is an adult coach he is supposed to be held to a much higher standard of behavior. This was wrong on Grantham's part; he's not a criminal because of it, and I'm not calling for him to be tarred and feathered over it either. But doing that was stupid, and IMO, classless. I've never thought of UGA as being anything less than a quality University that pursues the highest athletic goals, while also maintaining high standards and expecting the members of its' teams to behave in a proper manner.

This was a stupid thing for Grantham to do, and he needs to be held accountable for it. UGA doesn't need to be tainted by the reputation they will earn if they sit back and do nothing about this. Get Grantham under control; make him understand that this is college football, and that he will have to hold himself to a higher standard if he wants to remain at UGA. Give him a 1 game suspension to be served this coming week against a team that is no threat to the Georgia team. Get this over with and put it behind the team. He needs to stop smashing white boards on the sideline, and stop trying to talk sh*t to the kids who play for other teams.

[TroubleDawg]

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Edited November 3, 2010 by Ealey24

[TroubleDawg]

Well since everyone is offended by Grantham's antics, cursing on the sideline and breaking white boards, he should convert to the new "American" way.

He should invite the Defense over for tea. Afterwords they should watch a bit of game film. Then they should watch GLEE and Dancing with the Stars followed Hot Chocolate by the campfire with some tasty smores.

Come gameday, he shouldnt be mad at his defense for missing tackles or blown assignments. Instead he should tell them its ok, we will get them next time so he doesnt hurt their feelings.

Also, he should call timeout and approach the other teams kicker and tell him "you can make this kick but even if you dont, you are welcome to attend my next gathering at my house as we watch Housewives of Atlanta and snack on Cinnabons.

[CrimsonKat]

Well since everyone is offended by Grantham's antics, cursing on the sideline and breaking white boards, he should convert to the new "American" way.

He should invite the Defense over for tea. Afterwords they should watch a bit of game film. Then they should watch GLEE and Dancing with the Stars followed Hot Chocolate by the campfire with some tasty smores.

Come gameday, he shouldnt be mad at his defense for missing tackles or blown assignments. Instead he should tell them its ok, we will get them next time so he doesnt hurt their feelings.

Also, he should call timeout and approach the other teams kicker and tell him "you can make this kick but even if you dont, you are welcome to attend my next gathering at my house as we watch Housewives of Atlanta and snack on Cinnabons.

Grantham can coach HIS kids in whatever manner he chooses -- but there is NO REASON WHATSOEVER that he should be addressing the opposing players in the manner he did last Saturday. He knows it. Mark Richt knows it. And most every college football fan outside of Athens knows it.

Funny how this thread started off as justifying the actions of Grantham as being him signaling in a play. It now has evolved into justifying Grantham doing anything short of physically abusing a player on the opposing team.

[Xnex]

Well since everyone is offended by Grantham's antics, cursing on the sideline and breaking white boards, he should convert to the new "American" way.

He should invite the Defense over for tea. Afterwords they should watch a bit of game film. Then they should watch GLEE and Dancing with the Stars followed Hot Chocolate by the campfire with some tasty smores.

Come gameday, he shouldnt be mad at his defense for missing tackles or blown assignments. Instead he should tell them its ok, we will get them next time so he doesnt hurt their feelings.

Also, he should call timeout and approach the other teams kicker and tell him "you can make this kick but even if you dont, you are welcome to attend my next gathering at my house as we watch Housewives of Atlanta and snack on Cinnabons.

While your attempt at humor is not without highlights, it is inaccurate. "I'm a man, I'm OVER 40" and I've played football for some seriously tough coaches in my lifetime. But being tough isn't the same thing as being an embarrasment. Ranting, raving, lunatics do not accomplish anything that a cold stare accompanied by a low growling voice that explains in detail exactly what type of behavior and performance is going to be accepted by the players on the team. The more stuff you do to take attention away from what you're actually trying to say, the less chance you have of getting the results you are demanding. You can be extremely tough without creating any wild displays of temper or rage.

I'm not offended by him breaking the white board. I think there are people who believe they have to react in certain ways to get the response they are looking for. I don't agree that he could only get his message through by being a raving maniac. It's easy to be very tough on the players and hold them accountable without making a spectacle of himself, but if that's how he does it and his boss is okay with it then it's no skin off of my back. To me the UGA fans are so happy to see some fire from their DC as opposed to years past that they think some of his antics are necessary to get the players to play well. I don't think that is true, but if they think that Grantham destroying things on the sideline is what is necessary, then let him have at it. But he can get his message accross without doing that type of stuff if he chooses to do so. Everybody can learn and grow as they go through phases in life.

The choke sign was out of bounds, IMO. It's a totally different situation on various levels. And I think he should be punished for doing it. I'm not talking about firing him, or sitting him down for the rest of the season; just saying that Richt needs to send a message to grantham that college football is different from the pro's and that UGA is going to hold itself to higher standards than that. In my mind I can see Richt interviewing Grantham last year and explaining that the defense needed a fire lit under them after dealing with the previous DC for so long. And Grantham is doing what he can to deliver that to Richt and UGA. But there are restrictions on what is acceptable behavior, and making the choke sign toward an opposing player while also shouting at him and saying "you're gonna ***%#@@@ choke" crosses a line that shouldn't ever be crossed, especialy at the college level.