Stay classy Grantham

[Deacon 13]

Here is a video clip ... Grantham gives choke sign to Henry

Per Schultz, Pat Dooley of the Gainesville Sun wrote this on Twitter earlier tonight: “Just checked the CBS broadcast again. Todd Grantham grabs his neck and says “You’re gonna bleepin’ choke. You’re gonna choke” to Henry. Chas Henry said in the postgame interview with Tracy Wolfson that Georgia coaches were telling him that he was gonna choke.

Yah, that doesn't look good. That doesn't set a very good example. I understand that it is "in the heat of battle", but come on.

But then again, I'm not the "win at all costs" kind of football fan.

[CrimsonKat]

Yah, that doesn't look good. That doesn't set a very good example. I understand that it is "in the heat of battle", but come on.

But then again, I'm not the "win at all costs" kind of football fan.

My only problem with it is that it is directed at an opposing student athlete. I am fine with showing emotion for your team, ripping into your own players, or even general comments to the opposing team as a whole (See Will Muschamp's "Boom motherf&^%$er" clip while at Auburn).

But surely, a coach can restrain himself from verbally taunting a player on the other team. And I would definitely have less of a problem with it if it was an NFL player who is getting paid millions rather than a kid who is getting nothing more than maybe tuition and books to kick footballs for his school.

[Deacon 13]

My only problem with it is that it is directed at an opposing student athlete. I am fine with showing emotion for your team, ripping into your own players, or even general comments to the opposing team as a whole (See Will Muschamp's "Boom motherf&^%$er" clip while at Auburn).

But surely, a coach can restrain himself from verbally taunting a player on the other team. And I would definitely have less of a problem with it if it was an NFL player who is getting paid millions rather than a kid who is getting nothing more than maybe tuition and books to kick footballs for his school.

All of the above show a lack of respect. Coaches shouldn't do it and shouldn't be ok with their players doing it.

Again, I'm in the vast minority.

[Billy Ocean]

Is the playcall ... "You are going to [bleeping] choke!"? Because that is what Grantham said according to those who have watched the video.

The truth is that, if this was anybody but a Georgia coach, they would be getting lambasted right now on this board. Anybody who says otherwise is simply not being objective.

I can't speak on behalf of all Dawgs, but I'm not making a big deal out of it because I have a multitude of far greater concerns.

For that matter I didn't get all butthurt when Tebow bounced around the sidelines in the second 1/2 for two years, when Corch called the timeouts, when Corch's wife showed her arse after the '08 game, or when Meyers chomped at the UGA fans on Saturday.

I'm either slightly amused or such things don't register at all. I guess some delicate souls are more sensitive. But I'm incapable of being offended. I grew up on Da U's showboating. These current cats are mild.

[Dawgy]

Yeah, I am sure if it was Meyer, Petrino, or Saban, all of the Georgia fans would be asking what the big deal is. Heck, Georgia fans cried for days three years ago when, at a team practice, Alabama's strength coach said "Georgia is wearing black because they are going to a [bleeping] funeral."

Well- I thought it was funny, as did CMR as he wore black to his next press conference after that comment. It's just comments dude- lighten up. It's not like UGA is consistently over-signing players and then putting the lives and careers of those eager 18 yr olds on hold if someone better else comes along- now that would be real do*che-baggery. :P

Edited November 2, 2010 by Dawgy

[Deacon 13]

I can't speak on behalf of all Dawgs, but I'm not making a big deal out of it because I have a multitude of far greater concerns.

For that matter I didn't get all butthurt when Tebow bounced around the sidelines in the second 1/2 for two years, when Corch called the timeouts, when Corch's wife showed her arse after the '08 game, or when Meyers chomped at the UGA fans on Saturday.

I'm either slightly amused or such things don't register at all. I guess some delicate souls are more sensitive. But I'm incapable of being offended. I grew up on Da U's showboating. These current cats are mild.

I'm not "offended" by any of it. It's just a game. But I'm not a fan of being disrespectful.

[Billy Ocean]

I'm not "offended" by any of it. It's just a game. But I'm not a fan of being disrespectful.

Yeah, on the one hand it's always better to be the bigger man. But then again, I didn't like that they outlawed the throat slash gesture, so I'm no barometer or arbiter for civility and decorum. As long as you don't cheap-shot a guy in an effort to inflict injury, I'm pretty much an anything goes kinda chap.

I've never been "in the arena" other than rec league soccer, but I'll say some inappropriate things to ya if we're in the same room playing Madden.

One of my mottoes is, "Vulgarity is the spice of life."

[Xnex]

I remember "way back when" Pete Carroll was a coach in the NFL and he directed the choke sign at a professional kicker and there was a mild storm of criticism directed toward him for doing that. If Grantham made that sign toward the UF kicker, it's not a very decent thing to do when you're dealing with a college kicker. But if he shouted it out loud to him, I think that;s really crossing a line. I'm just not sure that Grantham really "get's it" when it comes to coaching in the NCAA. There is a difference between coaching in the SEC and the NFL. Just my $.02.

below are a couple of links to articles about the Pete Carroll incident.

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/01/14/sports/pro-football-dolphins-just-love-to-let-him-boot-one.html

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1992-12-22/news/9203080015_1_jets-defensive-coordinator-pete-carroll-shula

If a pro coach does it and knows he was wrong, I think a college coach should know it too. But times have changed, and maybe most people think that it was okay for him to do that.

I cannot imagine that Richt would be okay with it though.

[Threepac Daddy]

smh at grantham, you expect better sportsmanship out of a coach than this, yes its the heat of the game, but your a coach and you gotta keep your composure. if this was urban or any coach doing this to walsh the entire fan base would calling for his head no doubt.

[Threepac Daddy]

to add if a player does that its fine by me, but a coach shouldnt do this in any level. im not buying that this a play call comp out excuse right now

[Threepac Daddy]

Of course UM cheering going into halftime, like the game was already over, ain't very "classy" either.

celebrating and doing the choke signal 2 very different things. every coach celebrates at sometime during the game, very few do choke signs

[tikibar]

Willie Martinez is somewhere saying "now that's coaching"!!

[capologist]

I don't really care what he did but if it's true that he spoke directly to Henry saying what he said then I really wish Henry would have found him after the kick and said, "No, that's what you guys did this year"...

[ChuyDawg]

UF will make a big deal out of this but who cares. This is big boy football and unfortunately the emotions will get the best of you sometimes.

I personally want to see a different kind of attitude out on the playing field. I have stated on here before that I was kind of sick of CMR constantly being the "gentleman." UF plays dirty, its a fact. It's time for UGA to start throwing some mud back at those punks. They have our number, that's a fact but please stop acting as if UF is a group of choir boys.

This is what a rivalry will do to you. If you can't handle it then stop watching. Did anybody say anything about UF celebrating next to the UGA sidelines? Did anybody say anything about Henry staring at the UGA team with his hands on his hips? Again, this is rivalry and it really wasn't a big deal. Get over it.

[ATLBrave]

UF will make a big deal out of this but who cares. This is big boy football and unfortunately the emotions will get the best of you sometimes.

I personally want to see a different kind of attitude out on the playing field. I have stated on here before that I was kind of sick of CMR constantly being the "gentleman." UF plays dirty, its a fact. It's time for UGA to start throwing some mud back at those punks. They have our number, that's a fact but please stop acting as if UF is a group of choir boys.

This is what a rivalry will do to you. If you can't handle it then stop watching. Did anybody say anything about UF celebrating next to the UGA sidelines? Did anybody say anything about Henry staring at the UGA team with his hands on his hips? Again, this is rivalry and it really wasn't a big deal. Get over it.

This. Please, to every Florida fan complaining about lack of class, I'd like you to meet my friend Kettle.

[Xnex]

This. Please, to every Florida fan complaining about lack of class, I'd like you to meet my friend Kettle.

But there is a seperate line that is crossed when it it deals with a coach taunting an opposing player, I think. Hopefully, both Richt, and Grantham think that is going too far and a statement will be issued sometime soon about this. It's not a good look in collge football.

[tjb]

But there is a seperate line that is crossed when it it deals with a coach taunting an opposing player, I think. Hopefully, both Richt, and Grantham think that is going too far and a statement will be issued sometime soon about this. It's not a good look in collge football.

I'd be willing to bet that there will be some sort of apology or statement issued today at the press conference, whether by Richt or Grantham himself (not sure if he meets with the media or not). I still don't think it's all that big of a deal, but he probably did go a bit too far, and got caught up in the emotions. He's a fiery guy and he let that get the best of him. Plus he's been in the NFL the last decade (which I'm not saying it's right to do that up there either), but it's a different mentality in the NFL vs College, and he's still got to learn those adjustments.

[Deacon 13]

Yeah, on the one hand it's always better to be the bigger man. But then again, I didn't like that they outlawed the throat slash gesture, so I'm no barometer or arbiter for civility and decorum. As long as you don't cheap-shot a guy in an effort to inflict injury, I'm pretty much an anything goes kinda chap.

I've never been "in the arena" other than rec league soccer, but I'll say some inappropriate things to ya if we're in the same room playing Madden.

One of my mottoes is, "Vulgarity is the spice of life."

While I whole-heartedly disagree, I respect your views. And I try my best not to judge because who am I to judge anyone.

And that is the true sticking point with most "fans". Judgement and forming opinions of others whom they have absolutely no first-hand knowledge of. I am as guilty as the next guy. But I try to live and learn.

I say play the game (and in football you have to go hard or go home), but still be respectful. Alot of times that is much easier said than done.

[itsjustafleshwound]

Is the playcall ... "You are going to [bleeping] choke!"? Because that is what Grantham said according to those who have watched the video.

The truth is that, if this was anybody but a Georgia coach, they would be getting lambasted right now on this board. Anybody who says otherwise is simply not being objective.

Well, if he's been doing THAT SAME SIGNAL ALL YEAR, then he must have been telling a lot of people they were going to choke. And if that is so, a lot of people we've played really just don't care and have bigger things to worry about. And about him saying that? According to those who watched the video? Like who? Bob down at the local bar? A Florida blogger? Somehow this is supposed to prove anything? At all? If you can't bring any tangible proof that this is any different that any other signal, why should I in any way care? Once you can prove it, I'll label it disgusting. Concerning his language, we all already know he has a foul mouth and I don't approve of that and do believe it disgusting, but a clean mouth isn't an issue in terms of his particular employment.

[Pickles da Don]

I want a 4 game suspension :ph34r:

[CrimsonKat]

Well, if he's been doing THAT SAME SIGNAL ALL YEAR, then he must have been telling a lot of people they were going to choke. And if that is so, a lot of people we've played really just don't care and have bigger things to worry about. And about him saying that? According to those who watched the video? Like who? Bob down at the local bar? A Florida blogger? Somehow this is supposed to prove anything? At all? If you can't bring any tangible proof that this is any different that any other signal, why should I in any way care? Once you can prove it, I'll label it disgusting. Concerning his language, we all already know he has a foul mouth and I don't approve of that and do believe it disgusting, but a clean mouth isn't an issue in terms of his particular employment.

Seriously, you are standing behind the "this was a signal in to the players" defense? My guess is that you will get your proof of what this was at Mark Richt's press conference -- Richt is not the kind of coach who would endorese this.

As for the language part of the equation, I have absolutely no problem with that and expect that to be commonplace in sporting contests. My beef is with a grown man (getting paid good money to develop student athletes) taunting a student athlete from another program. There is no place for that in amateur athletics.

[Xnex]

Well, if he's been doing THAT SAME SIGNAL ALL YEAR, then he must have been telling a lot of people they were going to choke. And if that is so, a lot of people we've played really just don't care and have bigger things to worry about. And about him saying that? According to those who watched the video? Like who? Bob down at the local bar? A Florida blogger? Somehow this is supposed to prove anything? At all? If you can't bring any tangible proof that this is any different that any other signal, why should I in any way care? Once you can prove it, I'll label it disgusting. Concerning his language, we all already know he has a foul mouth and I don't approve of that and do believe it disgusting, but a clean mouth isn't an issue in terms of his particular employment.

Well does Grantham have anything to do with making the calls on special teams; because it's pretty obvious that UF is about to try a FG in OT in that screencap. I thought he only handled the defense.

[itsjustafleshwound]

Well does Grantham have anything to do with making the calls on special teams; because it's pretty obvious that UF is about to try a FG in OT in that screencap. I thought he only handled the defense.

Special teams responsibilities is distributed amongst the coaches so possibly. All I'm saying is that I've seen him make this signal all year. If Richt comes out and says that he was doing anything other than a signal, I'll believe it then. I highly suspect that this question will be presented to Richt and I highly doubt that Richt would lie about it. If Richt does confirm some fans' suspicions, I'll admit I was wrong and that Grantham was out of line. Though in that case, I'd be pretty confused as to why I've seen that signal before.

[Pickles da Don]

At people saying that is a call to the defense when the clips shows him reapeatedly saying your going to fing choke.

Time to die oops wrong thread

[Statick]

Really? Is this THAT big of a deal?

I mean, heck, I'm a UGA fan and I still didn't make that big of a deal back when Meyer called those late timeouts.