slamee101 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Opinions are like ***holes, everyone has one. After a loss like Sunday a lot of questions will arise but I hope the coaching staff looks real hard at what's not going right despite the fact that we're 4-2 and thinks about changing some things...like this:As I was going through the weekly truckload of information that ESPN Stats & Information sends us each week earlier Wednesday, I was glancing at a breakdown of screen passes and looking to see where the NFC South quarterbacks ranked in that area. At first glance, I couldnt find Atlantas Matt Ryan anywhere on the list. Then, I checked it a second, third and fourth time. Then, I noticed a little disclaimer at the bottom that said only quarterbacks who have attempted at least five screen passes were listed. That set off a little bell. I know I havent seen a lot of screen passes from Atlanta, but I wanted to make sure there wasnt some kind of mistake. There wasnt. When I reached out to our stats people, they explained that Ryan, indeed, did not qualify for the list. The explanation is pretty simple. Ryan has attempted three screen passes this season. Hes completed two for 21 yards. Atlantas three screen passes are the fewest in the league. Chicago leads with 22 and well get to the other NFC South teams in just a minute. But I think the Atlanta situation deserves a little more attention first. What about all that offseason talk about getting running back Michael Turner more involved in the passing game? Technically, he is. Turner has seven catches this season, which tops his career high of six in 2008. But, obviously, a few of his receptions have been downfield and not screens. Turner has 50 receiving yards on the season. Backup Jason Snelling has 13 catches, but, again, theyre obviously not all screen passes. For the sake of comparison, screen passes dont seem to be a hot trend throughout the NFC South. The one exception is New Orleans, where Drew Brees has completed 19 of 21 screen passes for 156 yards. Tampa Bays Josh Freeman has completed four of six for 82 yards. Carolinas Jimmy Clausen has completed six of seven screens for 64 yards and Matt Moore, who will replace Clausen as the starter this week, hasnt attempted enough screens to be on the list. Also, Freeman and Clausen each have had a screen pass intercepted and no NFC South quarterback has had a screen pass go for a touchdown this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Lee Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 If your offensive line isn't performing up to par, why not help them with max protection, misdirection and......SCREENS?!?!?!?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebird587 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 cincy will be looking for them now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamPlayer1 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 cincy will be looking for them now No need to worry about screens, we're still trying to "impose our will", whatever that means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLFalcfan Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 If your offensive line isn't performing up to par, why not help them with max protection, misdirection and......SCREENS?!?!?!?!?!There's gotta be a reason but I sure can't figure it out either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slamee101 Posted October 20, 2010 Author Share Posted October 20, 2010 No need to worry about screens, we're still trying to "impose our will", whatever that means. I'd laugh...if it weren't so sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madman88 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 There's gotta be a reason but I sure can't figure it out either.neither can i, i mean they say we teach our o-line to block down field to help out our RBs, well a screen is just that, getting the o-line out of the pocket and blocking down field, screens help out your QB in sooo many ways..... its not like our guys cant run, or we wouldnt use that power o running play we KEEP using so much..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obmann Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Sam Baker is playing screen pass every passing down. He tries, that the defender thinks..OH Baker will pass block me....Then he lets the DE run straight by him to Ryan....That is my definition of screen pass....Sam Baker is the best screen pass LT in this leauge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharky Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Opinions are like ***holes, everyone has one. After a loss like Sunday a lot of questions will arise but I hope the coaching staff looks real hard at what's not going right despite the fact that we're 4-2 and thinks about changing some things...like this:As I was going through the weekly truckload of information that ESPN Stats & Information sends us each week earlier Wednesday, I was glancing at a breakdown of screen passes and looking to see where the NFC South quarterbacks ranked in that area. At first glance, I couldn’t find Atlanta’s Matt Ryan anywhere on the list. Then, I checked it a second, third and fourth time. Then, I noticed a little disclaimer at the bottom that said only quarterbacks who have attempted at least five screen passes were listed. That set off a little bell. I know I haven’t seen a lot of screen passes from Atlanta, but I wanted to make sure there wasn’t some kind of mistake. There wasn’t. When I reached out to our stats people, they explained that Ryan, indeed, did not qualify for the list. The explanation is pretty simple. Ryan has attempted three screen passes this season. He’s completed two for 21 yards. Atlanta’s three screen passes are the fewest in the league. Chicago leads with 22 and we’ll get to the other NFC South teams in just a minute. But I think the Atlanta situation deserves a little more attention first. What about all that offseason talk about getting running back Michael Turner more involved in the passing game? Technically, he is. Turner has seven catches this season, which tops his career high of six in 2008. But, obviously, a few of his receptions have been downfield and not screens. Turner has 50 receiving yards on the season. Backup Jason Snelling has 13 catches, but, again, they’re obviously not all screen passes. For the sake of comparison, screen passes don’t seem to be a hot trend throughout the NFC South. The one exception is New Orleans, where Drew Brees has completed 19 of 21 screen passes for 156 yards. Tampa Bay’s Josh Freeman has completed four of six for 82 yards. Carolina’s Jimmy Clausen has completed six of seven screens for 64 yards and Matt Moore, who will replace Clausen as the starter this week, hasn’t attempted enough screens to be on the list. Also, Freeman and Clausen each have had a screen pass intercepted and no NFC South quarterback has had a screen pass go for a touchdown this year.Good read dude, I've been preaching since the first game of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schwarzenegger321 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I think when Grady was here he ate those pages from the playbook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEORGIA-FALCON Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I have wondered about this for some time now. I wish they would throw more screen passes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmite Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 And this solves the mystery why we cannot defend screens very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobkowski Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 LOL this proves even more that Pat Y. reads our MB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slamee101 Posted October 20, 2010 Author Share Posted October 20, 2010 LOL this proves even more that Pat Y. reads our MBI'm sure of it. He probably reads all the NFC South message boards. Gotta do his due diligence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raysnill1 Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 what makes it sad is that we've completed 2 screen passes for 21 yards. that's an average of 10 yards per screen. why abandon a play that gives you a 10 yard average? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmite Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I know one was to Snelling in the Arizona game. Can you guess the other successful screen pass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slamee101 Posted October 20, 2010 Author Share Posted October 20, 2010 I know one was to Snelling in the Arizona game. Can you guess the other successful screen pass?Yea, and that one was for 19 yards so the other one was not very successful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joremarid Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 the one to snelling went for a TD i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
since68andcounting Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Well, they're only averaging about an 80% completion rate across the division for about 10 yards per completion. So I don't know why we'd worry about them. :wacko: Let's just let our franchise QB continue to be pummeled week in and week out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
since68andcounting Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I'll give you another one that because of the effectiveness of our runnning game we should run 2-3 times per game out of principle:Play Action, Deep Post.Anyone remember what happened the last time we ran that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakyfalcon Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I think the screen pass went out the door when Norwood went down last season and this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmite Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I'll give you another one that because of the effectiveness of our runnning game we should run 2-3 times per game out of principle:Play Action, Deep Post.Anyone remember what happened the last time we ran that?In the Cleveland game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychic Gibbon Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 (edited) I think the screen pass went out the door when Norwood went down last season and this year.This system never knew how to use Norwood effectively. You look at Norwood, see a skinny, quick running back perfect for misdirection rushes and screen passes yet they always had him run between the tackles. It is no wonder why he's been injured so much the past few years since he's been so misused.In any case, the screen passing game would be effective with the personnel we have. Set up a delayed bubble screen to Turner so Jenkins and White can block the first few defenders while Ovie can get the closest linebacker and with Snelling you can have him run up to fake block and then move up further when the blitz has better developed or the linebackers are far enough away with their coverage. Simple. Edited October 20, 2010 by Psychic Gibbon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
since68andcounting Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 In the Cleveland game?Yep. Six points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nativefalcon Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 cincy will be looking for them now Nope Mularkey is allergic to them. :P Its sad, we have been slaughtered by screens in the past, but we have a OC that would try run up the gut, run up the gut then pass and punt before trying a freaking screen. Pathetic. :wacko: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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