sdogg Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Good hire and Im glad they are not stalling on it. Its time to start working on 2011. First order of business...fire TP and get his replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iQue Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Solid, safe hire. Who else is out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rightsaidfred Posted October 13, 2010 Author Share Posted October 13, 2010 well ****. that was ultra quick.that must've been in the works for a minute.True that. I have a mental image of Cox, Gonzalez, Wrenn & Sheurholtz having a steak dinner talking about this transition. Like - right after Fredi got the boot in MIA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slamee101 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Of course it's all speculation at this point as Wren meets with the coaching staff, but Mark Bowman is suggesting that McDowell, Perez, and Snitker are likely to be the only holdovers from Cox's staff.No TP...(fingers crossed) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 I would be shocked if he doesnt keep McDowell and Perez is probably indeed safe as well with the way we hit most of the season he has a plenty of reason to send TP packing and who knows what he'll do for a bench coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ransack Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Of course it's all speculation at this point as Wren meets with the coaching staff, but Mark Bowman is suggesting that McDowell, Perez, and Snitker are likely to be the only holdovers from Cox's staff.No TP...(fingers crossed)Snitker can go too. He hasn't been very good as a 3rd base coach honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLBrave Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Snitker can go too. He hasn't been very good as a 3rd base coach honestly.How is that exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean weatherspoon Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 not a great team.not a great team in atlanta either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobkowski Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 I just plz. hope he ain't another "go only by the book, mico-match-up-manager"Ain't it grand to be loved by the players !! I want a team/game manager;not a dayum players mgr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLBrave Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Looks like no TP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threepac Daddy Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 no TP in the atl any moreexpect Snitker and Mcdowell to stay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rightsaidfred Posted October 13, 2010 Author Share Posted October 13, 2010 I would be shocked if he doesnt keep McDowell and Perez is probably indeed safe as well with the way we hit most of the season he has a plenty of reason to send TP packing and who knows what he'll do for a bench coachHow hard is it to coach a bench? I mean, all it does is sit there and hold up players' butts. :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 It's very hard to make a good pitching change when you have no recourse but to send in the Marlin relievers. The Marlins made some helpful roster moves after Fredi left, but nobody could have done much with the early season situation.I wasn't just talking about this year and I wasn't talking about in terms of results. I'm talking about getting hooked on this lefty/righty SHYT! Which is exactly what it is! Totally BS!Here's how pitching changes work against a manager. You don't take a guy out and he gives up runs, then the manager made a dumb move. You take the guy out and the guy that comes in gives up runs, then the manager made a dumb move. SAME SCENARIO. No one knows what would have happened the other way around, yet people love to blame the manager in that instance when he relies 100% on the execution of his players. Yet people rarely remember when the manager gets it right on a change/no change. Thus, it's a no win. The crowd loved that Bobby gave Lowe a chance. Afterward he was criticized for it. Fans often make the decision after the outcome, but when you manage, you don't have hindsight to base your decision off of.If you have a bad bullpen, your changes are going to look worse on you. A manager also has to balance overworking the starting pitching and the bullpen over the course of the season. Fans tend to look at it as a one game all or nothing decision. Good managers will have the entire season in mind.I was happy Bobby left Lowe in! What pissed me off was Lowe getting ******* squeezed resulting in 2 straight walks!And while you do make some good points when the announcers who are cheering for the other team question your move and jump for joy over it (talking about pulling Kimbrel and putting in Dunn) that is not questioning a move after the fact! That is fully hating a ******* move before it is made because it has disaster written all over it!I would be shocked if he doesnt keep McDowell and Perez is probably indeed safe as well with the way we hit most of the season he has a plenty of reason to send TP packing and who knows what he'll do for a bench coachI think Chino should stay as the bench coach! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ugadawg Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 How hard is it to coach a bench? I mean, all it does is sit there and hold up players' butts. :blink:positioning is critical. To close to the wall and you are to straight up and your neck will hurt and to far away and your lower back will hurt. Plus the vast difference in size players makes it an exact science....not everyone could handle this type of pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 positioning is critical. To close to the wall and you are to straight up and your neck will hurt and to far away and your lower back will hurt. Plus the vast difference in size players makes it an exact science....not everyone could handle this type of pressure.Which is why I think Chino should stay. I don't remember any of our players getting hurt from sitting on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threepac Daddy Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 (edited) TP will stay on the staff, but as the 1B coach and fielding coach. :wacko: atleast there will be a new hitting coachPerez, Mcdowell, and majority of the staff will stay except for hubbard and chino are gone.Correction TP will be the fielding instructor Edited October 13, 2010 by Threepac Daddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ransack Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 How is that exactly?I wasn't thrilled with his ability to direct runners on the base paths. There were many times that we were thrown out that I felt like he made a poor decision to send the runner. There were also times that we didn't send guys that we probably should have. Again a lot of this is subjective and I can't sit here and list out every time it happened but it's what I saw and it's my opinion. If he stays... fine. But I don't think he's all that great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Yeah the bench coach is the person in charge of defense they just dont sit around waiting for the manager to get ejected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ransack Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 TP will stay on the staff, but as the 1B coach and fielding coach. :wacko: atleast there will be a new hitting coachPerez, Mcdowell, and majority of the staff will stay except for hubbard and chino are gone.Correction TP will be the fielding instructorI'll miss Hubbard and as far as TP goes he was a gold glove defender so that is one positive to look at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slamee101 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 TP will stay on the staff, but as the 1B coach and fielding coach. :wacko: atleast there will be a new hitting coachPerez, Mcdowell, and majority of the staff will stay except for hubbard and chino are gone.Correction TP will be the fielding instructorWell, that's fine with me. Hitting coach was not the position for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threepac Daddy Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 I'll miss Hubbard and as far as TP goes he was a gold glove defender so that is one positive to look at.its an ok move, but thank god he is not our hitting coach anymore. the guy i want is the guy for the rangers, but thats a pipe dream Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Speculation is Fredi wants Carlos Tosca to be his bench coach he was also the bench coach for him in Florida Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 its an ok move, but thank god he is not our hitting coach anymore. the guy i want is the guy for the rangers, but thats a pipe dreamClint Hurdle is the Rangers hitting coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 TP will stay on the staff, but as the 1B coach and fielding coach. :wacko: atleast there will be a new hitting coachPerez, Mcdowell, and majority of the staff will stay except for hubbard and chino are gone.Correction TP will be the fielding instructorHmm! He was a **** good fielder! If he makes our defense better than good move! Can we please get Don Baylor back as our hitting coach? Remember how great our offense was when he was here? He's the one that taught Chipper how to hit homeruns batting right-handed and all Chipper did was go out and hit 45 homeruns and win the MVP.its an ok move, but thank god he is not our hitting coach anymore. the guy i want is the guy for the rangers, but thats a pipe dreamYou mean the guy that left the Rangers for the Cubs this year and the Cubs had one of the worst offenses in the majors this year? That guy? Rudy however you spell it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threepac Daddy Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 i feel that this offseason is going to be an interesting one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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