hawkeye Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Seeing how we like to stay the course, I believe if there is a change the new OC would be Musgrave. He has had alittle bit of experience as an OC.(and I do mean a little) Towards the end of the 98 season he called the playsfor Philly. In 2000 he was OC for Carolina for only 4 games and resigned. He was OC in Jax in 03 and 04. I don'tknow the reason why he didn't seem to be successful as an OC tho. Maybe it was b/c he was younger and inexperiencedor at least that's what I'm hoping. But it makes you wonder why he was promoted to Assistant HC/QB coach this yearand not Mularkey. Especially since Mularkey has been a HC before. But maybe those are just "titles". I don't knowwhat's the higher/better position. But I believe if Mularkey is let go Musgrave will get first shot at being OC.It seems like this regime likes the continuity. They even kept McKay on. And don't forget Houston and I thinkChicago considered Musgrave for OC this year.(not exactly sure on Chicago. I might be getting that 1 mixed up withRobiskie) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return-of-the-Falcon Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Id do it in a heartbeat but it's ryan that's the problem, not the OC. Mularkey doesn't call plays that involve Ryan throwing the ball to the other team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falken Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Our QB and our OC have posted a winning record over the last two years.Let's keep both.This message board desperately needs a win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingJBaby Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Seeing how we like to stay the course, I believe if there is a change the new OC would be Musgrave. He has had alittle bit of experience as an OC.(and I do mean a little) Towards the end of the 98 season he called the playsfor Philly. In 2000 he was OC for Carolina for only 4 games and resigned. He was OC in Jax in 03 and 04. I don'tknow the reason why he didn't seem to be successful as an OC tho. Maybe it was b/c he was younger and inexperiencedor at least that's what I'm hoping. But it makes you wonder why he was promoted to Assistant HC/QB coach this yearand not Mularkey. Especially since Mularkey has been a HC before. But maybe those are just "titles". I don't knowwhat's the higher/better position. But I believe if Mularkey is let go Musgrave will get first shot at being OC.It seems like this regime likes the continuity. They even kept McKay on. And don't forget Houston and I thinkChicago considered Musgrave for OC this year.(not exactly sure on Chicago. I might be getting that 1 mixed up withRobiskie)What exactly are you expecting from our offense? What would Musgrave do that Mularkey isn't doing? Musgrave was the OC for the Jags when Smitty was there. Guess what? They ran a ball control offense. What is a ball control offense you ask? Well it's where we try to establish the run, take deep shots off of play action, and move the chains with quick timing routes(dink and dunk). Sorry to break it to you but the offense wouldn't change under Musgrave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return-of-the-Falcon Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 What exactly are you expecting from our offense? What would Musgrave do that Mularkey isn't doing? Musgrave was the OC for the Jags when Smitty was there. Guess what? They ran a ball control offense. What is a ball control offense you ask? Well it's where we try to establish the run, take deep shots off of play action, and move the chains with quick timing routes(dink and dunk). Sorry to break it to you but the offense wouldn't change under Musgrave.your right, smith has to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingJBaby Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 your right, smith has to goI take it you don't like what we're trying to establish under Smitty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return-of-the-Falcon Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 I take it you don't like what we're trying to establish under Smitty?Were very mediocre, honestly i'd rather be terrible because that would mean we could build from scratch, being mediocre your kinda stuck. what are we going to do scrap the whole team? I doubt it. Blank is happy with a 9-7, 10-5 team that has a chance to make the playoffs but we all know won't do anything, because he's gonna sell out the dome, no reason to spend anymore than that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsH8 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 I take it you don't like what we're trying to establish under Smitty?He is a troll, cant you tell by his profile picture? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return-of-the-Falcon Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 He is a troll, cant you tell by his profile picture?And your an attention whore, get a life dude, why do you have to stalk me? if you don't like what I post ignore me. that simple. there is a feature that lets you ignore members with alot of negs I have over 200 negs so it shouldn't take much for you to block my posts. really you people wouldn't have anything to do if their wasn't posters like me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Falcon Jedi Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 I wouldnt have a problem with Musgrave calling the Plays. But the scheme does work, dont change that and make everybody re-learn a new scheme. It's just the play-calling that is killing us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingJBaby Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Were very mediocre, honestly i'd rather be terrible because that would mean we could build from scratch, being mediocre your kinda stuck. what are we going to do scrap the whole team? I doubt it. Blank is happy with a 9-7, 10-5 team that has a chance to make the playoffs but we all know won't do anything, because he's gonna sell out the dome, no reason to spend anymore than thatGoing against my gut feeling here but what the heck...what would you do to make this team all that it can be? I assume that you want the Falcons to win the Super Bowl. If that is the case, then I firmly believe we are on that path. I mean really, what would you do differently?He is a troll, cant you tell by his profile picture?You're probably right. That picture is messed up. Why show Ryan knocked down like that? Some of the greatest athletes become great because they are able to get back up after getting knocked down. It's what drives the great ones. So if that picture is suppose to be an inside joke by him, I suggest he try harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return-of-the-Falcon Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Going against my gut feeling here but what the heck...what would you do to make this team all that it can be? I assume that you want the Falcons to win the Super Bowl. If that is the case, then I firmly believe we are on that path. I mean really, what would you do differently?You're probably right. That picture is messed up. Why show Ryan knocked down like that? Some of the greatest athletes become great because they are able to get back up after getting knocked down. It's what drives the great ones. So if that picture is suppose to be an inside joke by him, I suggest he try harder.I'm not the one getting paid millions of dollars to play/coach football, I want the guys getting paid to find a solution. that's Matt Ryan, Coach Smith, TD, Mularkey...these are the guys responsible, I'm not sure what your think but we have all the pieces I believe to have an elite team now, It's a combination of bad coaching (playcalling) and bad QB play that keeps us from taking that next step. hopefully I'm overreacting and Ryan just had 1 bad game, but I'm not going to pretend like everything is okay like the rest of these people.And if you think I'm a troll then feel free to neg me, and see me above post about the feature that let's you block negged members, it's located at the bottom of every thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsH8 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 And your an attention whore, get a life dude, why do you have to stalk me? if you don't like what I post ignore me. that simple. there is a feature that lets you ignore members with alot of negs I have over 200 negs so it shouldn't take much for you to block my posts. really you people wouldn't have anything to do if their wasn't posters like me.It's aggravating having someone come on the message board and ruin a good experience isnt it? This is what you do to thousands of posters. You come on here and spew your hate of the team and ruin people experiences. Plus who are you telling to get a life when all you do is come on here to bash the team? I hope you enjoyed the little lesson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazerHarvard Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 (edited) Musgrave is awful as an OC, but he is a superb QB coach. He should continue to be our QB coach unless he decides to go elsewhere.I watched every game Musgrave OC'd for the Jaguars, and if you think Mularkey is bad...you'll kill yourself with Musgrave. Edited September 18, 2010 by BlazerFalcon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return-of-the-Falcon Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 It's aggravating having someone come on the message board and ruin a good experience isnt it? This is what you do to thousands of posters. You come on here and spew your hate of the team and ruin people experiences. Plus who are you telling to get a life when all you do is come on here to bash the team? I hope you enjoyed the little lesson.so I was able to ruin your expierience, again this forum provides a feature that let's you ignored negged members, I speak my mind and my opinion just like everyone else, If you don't like it then ignore me. your really need to stop taking this board to the heart, sorry i affected your pathetic little world.I've been here for a while, so don't try and call me out kid, you really don't know me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return-of-the-Falcon Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Musgrave is awful as an OC, but he is a superb QB coach. He should continue to be our QB coach unless he decides to go elsewhere.I watched every game Musgrave OC'd for the Jaguars, and if you think Mularkey is bad...you'll kill yourself with Musgrave.we need to do something, becuase all the tools are there, we just need to find someone who can use them, I hold out hope that Ryan is not really the problem and that it's just bad playcalling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsH8 Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 so I was able to ruin your expierience, again this forum provides a feature that let's you ignored negged members, I speak my mind and my opinion just like everyone else, If you don't like it then ignore me. your really need to stop taking this board to the heart, sorry i affected your pathetic little world.I've been here for a while, so don't try and call me out kid, you really don't know me.SMH apparently you don't get it, maybe the lesson was to complicated for your little brain. Why should people have to go out of their way to get rid of trolls. 1. I have been here longer than you. 2. I am not a kid so don't call me one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingJBaby Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 I wouldnt have a problem with Musgrave calling the Plays. But the scheme does work, dont change that and make everybody re-learn a new scheme. It's just the play-calling that is killing us.I agree with you that the scheme works. We truly can't afford to blow it all up and start over. What specifically do you have issue with in the play-calling?I'm not the one getting paid millions of dollars to play/coach football, I want the guys getting paid to find a solution. that's Matt Ryan, Coach Smith, TD, Mularkey...these are the guys responsible, I'm not sure what your think but we have all the pieces I believe to have an elite team now, It's a combination of bad coaching (playcalling) and bad QB play that keeps us from taking that next step. hopefully I'm overreacting and Ryan just had 1 bad game, but I'm not going to pretend like everything is okay like the rest of these people.And if you think I'm a troll then feel free to neg me, and see me above post about the feature that let's you block negged members, it's located at the bottom of every thread.I don't feel the need to neg you (you're free to think and say what you want). I do agree with you that TD and company need to man up and fix our red zone issues. For our scheme to work, we have to get touchdowns instead of of field goals. I am not drinking the "all is well kool-aid." Just my humble opinion, I do think people are over reacting a little. Again, I must ask though...what specifically do you not like about the play-calling? I hear people constantly complaining about that. It's like the new dirty word (play-calling). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return-of-the-Falcon Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 SMH apparently you don't get it, maybe the lesson was to complicated for your little brain. Why should people have to go out of their way to get rid of trolls. 1. I have been here longer than you. 2. I am not a kid so don't call me one.LOL..how hard is it to ignore someone? it's as easy as changing the channel on your TV, I bet you scream at your TV all day everytime someone says something you disagree with, fold your arms and cry huh? you've been here longer? good for you I really don't care. Im glad the #1Falconsfan is speaking up for the people. do you get a badge or something since your the #1 fan? how original Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return-of-the-Falcon Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 oh and I'm ignoring you so i wont see your post anymore, it's that easy, you should stop crying a try it. i'm done with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return-of-the-Falcon Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 I agree with you that the scheme works. We truly can't afford to blow it all up and start over. What specifically do you have issue with in the play-calling?I don't feel the need to neg you (you're free to think and say what you want). I do agree with you that TD and company need to man up and fix our red zone issues. For our scheme to work, we have to get touchdowns instead of of field goals. I am not drinking the "all is well kool-aid." Just my humble opinion, I do think people are over reacting a little. Again, I must ask though...what specifically do you not like about the play-calling? I hear people constantly complaining about that. It's like the new dirty word (play-calling).1 wordPredictable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZFalcon Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 But it makes you wonder why he was promoted to Assistant HC/QB coach this yearand not Mularkey. Especially since Mularkey has been a HC before. But maybe those are just "titles". I don't knowwhat's the higher/better position.I think Musgrave was promoted to assistant head coach so that another team couldnt offer him a OC job thus keeping stability for our young QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return-of-the-Falcon Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 I think Musgrave was promoted to assistant head coach so that another team couldnt offer him a OC job thus keeping stability for our young QBThat and a pay increase probably, when Musgrave was cosidering leaving we offered him a new position and more money to stay probably, good investment imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingJBaby Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 (edited) 1 wordPredictable.OK...that doesn't really explain your issue with the play-calling IMO. The greatest feature of the ball control offense is like Lombardi football...that power sweep play they used to run. Everyone knew what was coming but they couldn't stop it. Most modern offenses aren't really doing anything innovative. It's all been seen or done. It's really about the defense recognizing the play, reacting accordingly, and making the sure tackle. So my point is predictable is all in the eye of the beholder. I think we are trying to build a physical football team that doesn't back down. A team that could run the ball all day until you stop it or a team that will complete those ten yard outs all day and make you have to tackle a White, Norwood, HD, or Gonzo in space. The play-calling was the same in 08. The difference now is that we can't play the Rams, the Chiefs or any other weak tackling team every Sunday.I think Musgrave was promoted to assistant head coach so that another team couldnt offer him a OC job thus keeping stability for our young QBBingo! Edited September 18, 2010 by KingJBaby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxatlanta Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Seeing how we like to stay the course, I believe if there is a change the new OC would be Musgrave. He has had alittle bit of experience as an OC.(and I do mean a little) Towards the end of the 98 season he called the playsfor Philly. In 2000 he was OC for Carolina for only 4 games and resigned. He was OC in Jax in 03 and 04. I don'tknow the reason why he didn't seem to be successful as an OC tho. Maybe it was b/c he was younger and inexperiencedor at least that's what I'm hoping. But it makes you wonder why he was promoted to Assistant HC/QB coach this yearand not Mularkey. Especially since Mularkey has been a HC before. But maybe those are just "titles". I don't knowwhat's the higher/better position. But I believe if Mularkey is let go Musgrave will get first shot at being OC.It seems like this regime likes the continuity. They even kept McKay on. And don't forget Houston and I thinkChicago considered Musgrave for OC this year.(not exactly sure on Chicago. I might be getting that 1 mixed up withRobiskie)I think this will be a top 10 offense when the dust settles on the season, so I don't think MM gets the axe. I do agree with you that Musgrave would be the likely replacement. You really never know who might become available though... A head coach like Brad Childress, who was a very good offensive coordinator, could get the axe. Or Ken Wisenhunt would be a good fit here. Also a guy like Kevin Gillbride, who's done a good job for NYG, could come available if Coughlin gets fired. Maybe even someone like Brian Billick. One thing we know is that working with our offensive talent, working for Mr. Blank, coaching under a HC like Smitty- these are all pretty strong draws if we are ever in the market for a new OC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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