Dem Birds Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 And that was a mistake. Drew Brees looked worse than Matt Ryan has looked his first 2 season and the Chargers made the mistake of not giving him the time and spent a first round pick on a new QB. They then let him go to New Orleans where he became a Super Bowl winning QB. I'm thinking maybe the Chargers have a little bit of regret, even though Rivers has become a very good QB.Matt suffers from those high expectations of his rookie season, but he is on track to be a great NFL QB. Our staff won't make the mistake of not letting him fully blossum before they decide he's not the guy.I know most of us realize this, but for the few of you that don't get it, just keep it in mind. 2 seasons does not a career make. Even Rodgers sat on the bench for 3 seasons.Edit: Since I can't edit the titles, I'll correct it here, it was 3 seasons when they drafted Rivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 to the squad Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 brees was a 2nd rounder matt ryan was the #3 overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHODAT BEAST IN THE CELLAR Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Drew didn't play his first season(2001). Also, the season before Brees was drafted (2000)San Diego was 1-15, and 5-11 in 2001. Hardly the ideal situation for Brees to come into and light it up for the 2002 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Hey Matt came in to 4-12 team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 to the squad Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Drew didn't play his first season(2001). Also, the season before Brees was drafted (2000)San Diego was 1-15, and 5-11 in 2001. Hardly the ideal situation for Brees to come into and light it up for the 2002 season. yea pretty sure you don't want to speak on situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHODAT BEAST IN THE CELLAR Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 yea pretty sure you don't want to speak on situations.Bottom line is the team Drew Brees was asked to commandeer sucked azz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pencilpusher. just because Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Drew didn't play his first season(2001). Also, the season before Brees was drafted (2000)San Diego was 1-15, and 5-11 in 2001. Hardly the ideal situation for Brees to come into and light it up for the 2002 season. And I seriously doubt Brees would have won a Super Bowl in San Diego nor would he have been putting up those numbers. People forget his shoulder was suspect at the time they traded him also. I think both teams have franchise QB's now, only one has better coaches and surrounding players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHODAT BEAST IN THE CELLAR Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Hey Matt came in to 4-12 team.Doesn't mean the talent sucked, just that the team he inherited was reeling from the Mike Vick/Petrino saga. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#1 pick Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Drew didn't play his first season(2001). Also, the season before Brees was drafted (2000)San Diego was 1-15, and 5-11 in 2001. Hardly the ideal situation for Brees to come into and light it up for the 2002 season. Yep, the Chargers, Falcons, and Browns in those times were not ideal teams for QB's. Bad lines, bad WR's, quality RB's, was pretty much what you got from those teams. The defense were average at best and the offense were horrid at times. The Browns had a little success with Couch, the Chargers had no success with Brees till his 4th season and Vick was an one man show for several years in Atlanta. Those teams were nothing like the bad teams today. The ones today are a couple players away and mainly bad at QB. The teams in those days were bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHODAT BEAST IN THE CELLAR Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 And I seriously doubt Brees would have won a Super Bowl in San Diego nor would he have been putting up those numbers. People forget his shoulder was suspect at the time they traded him also. I think both teams have franchise QB's now, only one has better coaches and surrounding players.Not saying he would have won a SB either, but go look at what he accomplished at Purdue and tell me honestly he should have been drafted the second QB overall behind Mike Vick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Drew didn't play his first season(2001). Also, the season before Brees was drafted (2000)San Diego was 1-15, and 5-11 in 2001. Hardly the ideal situation for Brees to come into and light it up for the 2002 season. Ryan came into a MUCH worse situation.New Gm, New Head coach, new coaching staff, new running back, not to mention the media freak show that was around the falcons at the time, I mean he was getting asked questions about vick and Petrino and he was not even here.Brees was drafted same year as LT who went on to be one of the best backs of the decade and was at his peak while Brees was there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dem Birds Posted September 16, 2010 Author Share Posted September 16, 2010 Drew didn't play his first season(2001). Also, the season before Brees was drafted (2000)San Diego was 1-15, and 5-11 in 2001. Hardly the ideal situation for Brees to come into and light it up for the 2002 season. Drew actually came in in November of his rookie season and played well. Threw for 221 yards and a TD and no INT's. Either way, the point of the original post was that the Chargers gave up on him too soon. And a second round pick is still a very valuable pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyoshot Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Drew Brees came into a horrible situation and was the scapegoat for a lot of bad decisions the Chargers made. He had one year where he even threw more INT's than TD's, and was benched more than once. What people forget as well is that McKay tried to trade for Brees before the 2004 draft but they couldn't agree on compensation. What might have been.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHODAT BEAST IN THE CELLAR Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Drew actually came in in November of his rookie season and played well. Threw for 221 yards and a TD and no INT's. Either way, the point of the original post was that the Chargers gave up on him too soon. And a second round pick is still a very valuable pick.Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dem Birds Posted September 16, 2010 Author Share Posted September 16, 2010 Agreed.I was a Drew Brees fan before he signed his deal with the Devil. lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#1 pick Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 (edited) Ryan came into a MUCH worse situation.New Gm, New Head coach, new coaching staff, new running back, not to mention the media freak show that was around the falcons at the time, I mean he was getting asked questions about vick and Petrino and he was not even here.Brees was drafted same year as LT who went on to be one of the best backs of the decade and was at his peak while Brees was there.The Falcons already went through the rebuilding process when we had Vick. We had new lineman, young WR's and we signed a top RB the year we drafted Ryan. When Ryan came in, he already had the players in place, he just needed to lead and manage the game for us. We were nothing like San Diego or even Atlanta at the time which was sorry and the players outside of Vick was on the decline. Remember, McCord, Jefferson, Dez White, Trevor Gaylor, Bob "cotton-eye" Whitfield, a young Greg Garza, and some other linemen not worth mentioning. San Diego wasn't much better if not worst. No WR's, horrible linemen, in fact LT was the best thing that happen and he couldn't do it himself. He was great with Brees and Rivers till the last couple of years. We can talk about RB's but wasn't the Titans 0-6 with CJ having monster games. Turner also does like LT, have great games v. poor to good defenses but is poor v. very good to elite defenses. Edited September 16, 2010 by #1 pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconidae Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 When did Brees tear up his shoulder? Before or after Rivers was drafted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#1 pick Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 When did Brees tear up his shoulder? Before or after Rivers was drafted?After. The season after his breakout year with the Chargers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dem Birds Posted September 16, 2010 Author Share Posted September 16, 2010 When did Brees tear up his shoulder? Before or after Rivers was drafted?After. It was his last game as a Charger so I don't know why dude is saying he had questions about his shoulder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHODAT BEAST IN THE CELLAR Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 I read Drew's book and he stated when he was benched in favor of Doug Flutie, that's what did it for him. Maybe this is what stoked the fire within. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dem Birds Posted September 16, 2010 Author Share Posted September 16, 2010 I read Drew's book and he stated when he was benched in favor of Doug Flutie, that's what did it for him. Maybe this is what stoked the fire within.We should bench Matt for Redman then. ****, we'll still win some games lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHODAT BEAST IN THE CELLAR Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 We should bench Matt for Redman then. ****, we'll still win some games lol.Prophetic maybe? It might come down to that this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dem Birds Posted September 16, 2010 Author Share Posted September 16, 2010 Prophetic maybe? It might come down to that this season?...no. lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandy Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Bottom line is the team Drew Brees was asked to commandeer sucked azz.Yeah, poor Brees - having to deal with having a sucky RB like LaDanian Tomlinson in his prime, Lorenzo Neal in his prime, the best OL in the league nearly - and that noname tight end - Antonio Gates. Poor fella!poor, poor Brees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metatron360 Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 i beleive the chargers selected brees with a pick the falcons gave them for ykw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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