Phil Simms 790 the zone interview

[atljbo]

Phil Simms 790 the zone interview

[Guest Gritz]

Wow.

It seems like this possible bad talk about Ryan from within the Falcon organization might have legs.

I hate that.

[beernuts]

I thought the interview was interesting because he said he heard it but was surprised it came on on the air - basically tells me one or two guys in the FO may be saying this, but that it is not a consensus by any means

[aerosmith67]

Wow.

It seems like this possible bad talk about Ryan from within the Falcon organization might have legs.

I hate that.

Funny how they keep saying "whispers" as in "I really don't have a clue if this is true or not". After what happened with Vick and the whole "he's not going to be indicted" debacle you'd think a fan base would wait until something is officially said before jumping to conclusions.

[FalconinPA]

Wow.

It seems like this possible bad talk about Ryan from within the Falcon organization might have legs.

I hate that.

Yeah, definitely not good. Ryan might be a casualty of media hype even before his career starts. The media blew up Ryan because of the 2008 season and following the Vick fiasco. They hailed him the next Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. I wish they would just let Matt be Matt.

[jamnesiac34]

Wow.

It seems like this possible bad talk about Ryan from within the Falcon organization might have legs.

I hate that.

Care to elaborate on that? I haven't heard or read anything about what you said.

Bad talk about Ryan inside the Falcons organization?

[atljbo]

Wow.

It seems like this possible bad talk about Ryan from within the Falcon organization might have legs.

I hate that.

I dont believe it

Mike Lombardi said he is hearing things inside the organization... Phill Simms has said he is hearing things from "people who cover teams " ... Then he say he listen to sports talk radio.... Basically he is hearing Mike Bell and those other dudes.

[5 to the squad]

well i don't think matt's a ***** and he'll do whatever it takes to prove people wrong.

[#1 pick]

I dont believe it

Mike Lombardi said he is hearing things inside the organization... Phill Simms has said he is hearing things from "people who cover teams " ... Then he say he listen to sports talk radio.... Basically he is hearing Mike Bell and those other dudes.

Just because he listen to guys like Mike Bell doesn't meant he gets his insider info from them. C'Mon Son. As for Matt, I said it once and I will say it again. He needs a top possession WR and a top LT to become great.

[SYD]

This talk is not only completely silly but is such a knee jerk reaction that it boggles the mind.

I swear one INT by Troy which was simply an amazing play and almost out of bounds and it's like the world is crumbling on Ryan.

Did any of these people even watch the game? Ryan played very well against a great defense on the road and made ONE real mistake that ended up not even costing us the game.

Hey I saw Rodgers throw an INT this weekend where he threw the ball directly to a defender right in the middle of the field where none of his players were even 5 yards near the ball. Are people going to start talking about how Rodgers is a bust?

Really WTF is with all these chicken littles bashing Ryan when he didn't even play that bad this weekend?

[#1 pick]

This talk is not only completely silly but is such a knee jerk reaction that it boggles the mind.

I swear one INT by Troy which was simply an amazing play and almost out of bounds and it's like the world is crumbling on Ryan.

Did any of these people even watch the game? Ryan played very well against a great defense on the road and made ONE real mistake that ended up not even costing us the game.

Hey I saw Rodgers throw an INT this weekend where he threw the ball directly to a defender right in the middle of the field where none of his players were even 5 yards near the ball. Are people going to start talking about how Rodgers is a bust?

Really WTF is with all these chicken littles bashing Ryan when he didn't even play that bad this weekend?

Anybody with a TV can tell Rodgers is on his way to being elite, that can't be said for Ryan. He doesn't move his guys up the field that easily. Come on, he doesn't. It's like the Birds after Vick but with more talent. We get to the 30 and then everything stops. It really sucks to watch that. Rodgers moves the ball down the field like it's nothing. He can get a TD whenever he wants sometimes.

[rowdyfalcon]

This talk is not only completely silly but is such a knee jerk reaction that it boggles the mind.

I swear one INT by Troy which was simply an amazing play and almost out of bounds and it's like the world is crumbling on Ryan.

Did any of these people even watch the game? Ryan played very well against a great defense on the road and made ONE real mistake that ended up not even costing us the game.

Hey I saw Rodgers throw an INT this weekend where he threw the ball directly to a defender right in the middle of the field where none of his players were even 5 yards near the ball. Are people going to start talking about how Rodgers is a bust?

Really WTF is with all these chicken littles bashing Ryan when he didn't even play that bad this weekend?

I fully agree! I just started a thread let Matt be Matt. He didn't ask for all these crazy expectations the media puts on him. The media acts like matt should be so great by now that it dosent matter how the line plays or who our recievers or the fact we are playing a top D.

[Dominique is Manufique]

This talk is not only completely silly but is such a knee jerk reaction that it boggles the mind.

I swear one INT by Troy which was simply an amazing play and almost out of bounds and it's like the world is crumbling on Ryan.

Did any of these people even watch the game? Ryan played very well against a great defense on the road and made ONE real mistake that ended up not even costing us the game.

Hey I saw Rodgers throw an INT this weekend where he threw the ball directly to a defender right in the middle of the field where none of his players were even 5 yards near the ball. Are people going to start talking about how Rodgers is a bust?

Really WTF is with all these chicken littles bashing Ryan when he didn't even play that bad this weekend?

ryan definitely telegraphs his passes. ryan targets roddy and gonzalez on every passing play. polamalu while it was a great play is ryan's responsiblity to look off at the snap. the pick contributed to losing if you want to say it wasn't a pick 6 that cost the game then whatever, but the pick most definitely contributed to the loss.

maybe mularkey doesn't call deep bombs because ryan can't throw deep bombs. i don't know if that's true but his throws do look slower than other "franchise qb's and even vick and flacco for that matter. i support the guy, but also believe ryan isn't what the media hoped he is.

[aerosmith67]

Did any of these people even watch the game? Ryan played very well against a great defense on the road and made ONE real mistake that ended up not even costing us the game.

Nope, most of them watch cut up highlights. It's rare that these guys actually watch "hours of film" every week. They may say that but it's really an assistant cutting up game film/highlights to that they'll talk about on the air.

[Tandy]

I'm going to just copy paste what I posted on the other board:

I didn't get that he heard it from the front office .... They said to him:

Well, we were discussing the show last night and Mike Lombardi comes out and Nick was texting and I was watching and all of a sudden Mike Lombardi says, Hey there's sort of a rumbling inside the organization, his word, that the Falcons might not be as high on Matt Ryan and you come back with I've heard those whispers.

Simms responded - and I quote

Yes - Oh hey listen - it's the NFL guys, I mean there are no secrets and if one person in the Falcon front office, whoever it is, says it to anybody, it's going to be through the NFL within a day. And, you know, I've talked to a lot of people who cover teams and everything and you know I hear a lot of these rumors but I did hear that about Matt Ryan so I was kind of surprised it was brought up on TV like that, quite honestly, because we don't know what Mike's going to talk about and we sit there and wait and uhm, so we talked about it

end quote

I personally think that they are getting this from Dukes - who got it from Mike Bell when on the radio in Atlanta - and then took it to the NFL network. Lombardi works directly with Dukes. Once somebody puts that little whisper out there - these guys are like piranha in a fishbowl full of hamburger.

[Tandy]

Anybody with a TV can tell Rodgers is on his way to being elite, that can't be said for Ryan. He doesn't move his guys up the field that easily. Come on, he doesn't. It's like the Birds after Vick but with more talent. We get to the 30 and then everything stops. It really sucks to watch that. Rodgers moves the ball down the field like it's nothing. He can get a TD whenever he wants sometimes.

He also has an average of 4 seconds in the pocket.

Give that to Ryan and see what he can do.

Better yet - give Rodgers 1.7 seconds.

[bighurt]

Sounds like he is repeating a rumor. Nothing he heard himself, but just rumors going around probably the same rumor for Lombardi reported.

[didz]

The whole team has to play better for Matt Ryan to play better. James Harrison pretty much dominated our line. Sam Baker couldn't stop him and Harvey Dahl got blasted by him and got pushed back 5 yards. Wide receivers need to get open and the play calling has to be better. Its not all on Matt Ryan's shoulders, its more of a team effort that is the problem.

For the Falcons to say they are not "high" on Matt Ryan is a joke. We have seen Matt Ryan make big time throws. The Jenkins catch against the bears, the Roddy White bomb against KC. The 2 touch pass to Jenkins against the Raiders. Even the zip through 2 defenders to Roddy White in Philadelphia.

Was there one pass by Ryan in 09 that was memorable? I am starting to think the addition of Gonzalez has forced Matt to be more conservative with his throws.

Edited September 16, 2010 by didziojo

[paul n coke]

This talk is not only completely silly but is such a knee jerk reaction that it boggles the mind.

I swear one INT by Troy which was simply an amazing play and almost out of bounds and it's like the world is crumbling on Ryan.

Did any of these people even watch the game? Ryan played very well against a great defense on the road and made ONE real mistake that ended up not even costing us the game.

Hey I saw Rodgers throw an INT this weekend where he threw the ball directly to a defender right in the middle of the field where none of his players were even 5 yards near the ball. Are people going to start talking about how Rodgers is a bust?

Really WTF is with all these chicken littles bashing Ryan when he didn't even play that bad this weekend?

Couldnt have said it better myself. Football is unlike any other sport because your lasting as a fan stays with you for a whole week unlike baseball, basketball, or hockey for that matter. We have got to stop doing this (knee jerk reactions). We have to remember this is a marathon, not a sprint

[SYD]

Anybody with a TV can tell Rodgers is on his way to being elite, that can't be said for Ryan. He doesn't move his guys up the field that easily. Come on, he doesn't. It's like the Birds after Vick but with more talent. We get to the 30 and then everything stops. It really sucks to watch that. Rodgers moves the ball down the field like it's nothing. He can get a TD whenever he wants sometimes.

But Rodgers had 2 INT's, less yards and that one INT was one of the worst throws and decisions I have seen a QB make in a long time. Surely the world is crumbling around him right now like people are trying to make it out to be for Ryan right?

[SYD]

ryan definitely telegraphs his passes. ryan targets roddy and gonzalez on every passing play. polamalu while it was a great play is ryan's responsiblity to look off at the snap. the pick contributed to losing if you want to say it wasn't a pick 6 that cost the game then whatever, but the pick most definitely contributed to the loss.

maybe mularkey doesn't call deep bombs because ryan can't throw deep bombs. i don't know if that's true but his throws do look slower than other "franchise qb's and even vick and flacco for that matter. i support the guy, but also believe ryan isn't what the media hoped he is.

Yes it was a mistake and a great play by Troy, QB's throw INT's you know it happens, Ryan had one and people are acting like the world is crumbling. Why aren't people getting on Rodgers like that for throwing directly to a defender right in the middle of the field with none of his players even near it?

[NAVY FALCON]

This talk is not only completely silly but is such a knee jerk reaction that it boggles the mind.

I swear one INT by Troy which was simply an amazing play and almost out of bounds and it's like the world is crumbling on Ryan.

Did any of these people even watch the game? Ryan played very well against a great defense on the road and made ONE real mistake that ended up not even costing us the game.

Hey I saw Rodgers throw an INT this weekend where he threw the ball directly to a defender right in the middle of the field where none of his players were even 5 yards near the ball. Are people going to start talking about how Rodgers is a bust?

Really WTF is with all these chicken littles bashing Ryan when he didn't even play that bad this weekend?

Because the Packers won and the Falcons lost.....

[SYD]

Because the Packers won and the Falcons lost.....

But it's not like Ryan's play was the cause of our loss, some key drops Pitt stuffing our run game and a defensive break down in the OT had more to do with it. It was a tough close well fought game, it sucks we lost but I do not think Ryan or our team deserves the beat down we are getting because of it.

Edited September 16, 2010 by SYD

[g-dawg]

This is what I think:

I think Matt Ryan is an above-average QB with the potential to be a "top 8" QB. I think Matt's arm is "average" but his mental capabilities make him "above average".

To be "top 10", Matt needs a good pass-blocking offensive line(he does not have) and he needs a good offensive coordinator(he does not have). So, until Dimitroff/Smith come to their senses and fire Mike Mularkey and draft a legit left tackle, Matt will continue to run hot & cold and not be consistently good.

Edited September 16, 2010 by g-dawg

[lolfalcons]

He also has an average of 4 seconds in the pocket.

Give that to Ryan and see what he can do.

Better yet - give Rodgers 1.7 seconds.

You're kidding right? Rodgers is on his *** 50x more than Ryan and still obliterates him as far as QB supremacy is concerned.