Dunta Robinson

[matty72780]

Two things really frustrated me about Dunta Robinson on Sunday, 1st was the obvious bone head mistake when he didn't tag the player after he caught the ball which was inexcusable. Secondly, which I didn't notice until watching ESPN top plays Monday morning was when Mendenhall broke down the side line they showed a camera view from an angle behind the play, just before Mendenhall stumbles you see Dunta in the corner pulling up and going from a sprint to a jog as if he's already been beat, then a split second after that Mendenhall stumbled for a second and I'm 100% certain if Dunta stayed in a full sprint he would of been able to catch him. Granted it would of still be a 25-30 yard gain and an easy field goal, it really shocked me to see that, especially with his "unstoppable force" quote.

[vel]

There was no way Robinson would have caught Mendenhall. Don't try and nitpick things now. He was clearly behind Mendenhall the whole time. Look at the angle. By the time Mendenhall stumbled he was clear of anything Robinson could do.

Can we move on to the next game?

[dboyce10]

personally I agree and firmly believe that Robinson would have been able to catch mendenhall if he maintained a full sprint but regardless even if he couldnt are you trying to justify the fact that he gave up on the play because to me that shows the true quality of a player their heart and how hard they are willing to play from whistle to whistle. Didnt you see the arizona game where steve breaston sprinted 40 yards to punch the ball out from the defender at the one yard line, now that is the kind of player I would love to have on my football team regardless of the situation.

[CHOCTHEFALCONFAN™]

Lets be real here I understand we want to see our players hustle it out but Dunta wouldn't have caught him even if he would have kept running his full speed! - Mendenhall was just to fast for him!

[Dale4Saul2Red0]

Dunta was not catching him even with the stumble. Quit nit picking dumb stuff. If Dunta catchs him by some mircale Mendenhall still drags him into the endzone.

You want to trash someone trash Grimes on that play.

Edited September 15, 2010 by Dale4Saul2Red0

[dboyce10]

dunta runs a 4.34 and mendenhall runs a 4.54, he also stumbelled their was a possibility he could have caught him

[bighurt]

Not picking but you want to see the effort from your guys. This is the last play of the game if you don't catch him. I would go full speed until he gets in the endzone. So I agree with the topic, not sure whether he would caught him or not, but this could be one of the effort things Coach Smith was talking about.

[KRUNKuno]

say it with me now.....

WEEK TWO...AR-I-ZON-A

let's move on please.

[matty72780]

Dunta and Mendenhall have comparable speed (I think Dunta may even have a step on him), yes Dunta was about 8-10 yards behind him, but Dunta started to jog about a second before the stumble. If he was sprinting his heart out the whole time, then Mendenhall stumbles and takes a couple strides to get back to full speed Dunta would of had a GREAT shot to dive and maybe get a hand on him to force him out of bounds, or maybe dive and snag an ankle to trip him up. I clearly thought Mendenhall was gone while watching the game but was shocked when watching ESPN top plays and seeing that had Dunta been running hard the whole time he had a fighting chance. I'm disappointed because if this is week 1, and Dunta already calls the play finished when he could of had a chance how many other times might he not give that 110% that could possibly make all the difference? For those who don't believe he could of caught Mendenhall I'd look up the video, you may be surprised.

I was so pumped when Dunta got signed, I wanted us to draft him initially, I love him as a CB so I'm not bashing him. The game should of been one a million times on Sunday, this was just a shocking assessment after watching the highlights on Monday.

[atljbo]

unless Dunta runs a 3.91 40... Dunta was coming from the other side of the field... He was not catching dude.... I feel like some of you are reaching now.... That bonehead play i get but that play was not even 1% on Dunta.That play was on Grimes to cover his gap and Coleman to make the open field tackle.

[Southsacfalcon]

Erik Coleman should have just made the tackle , he was right there

[Flyin' In DC]

unless Dunta runs a 3.91 40... Dunta was coming from the other side of the field... He was not catching dude.... I feel like some of you are reaching now.... That bonehead play i get but that play was not even 1% on Dunta.That play was on Grimes to cover his gap and Coleman to make the open field tackle.

Is that why I saw somewhere that Owens is starting this week

[Guest Gritz]

Biermann and Peterson pushed out of the way....Grimes in wrong gap and poor angle/effort given by Coleman.

There are your misses right there.

Anything else is a fantasy.

[bighurt]

I am not bashing Dunta, but I would have like to have seen him try. You never know if the guy would have fumbled the ball. You are taught that in High School ball, don't quit to the play is over.

Edited September 15, 2010 by bighurt

[Statick]

Biermann and Peterson pushed out of the way....Grimes in wrong gap and poor angle/effort given by Coleman.

There are your misses right there.

Anything else is a fantasy.

Coach pretty much has said that Grimes was in the wrong gap and that he was responsible for that TD run.

[matty72780]

unless Dunta runs a 3.91 40... Dunta was coming from the other side of the field... He was not catching dude.... I feel like some of you are reaching now.... That bonehead play i get but that play was not even 1% on Dunta.That play was on Grimes to cover his gap and Coleman to make the open field tackle.

You're missing the point. I am in NO WAY bashing Dunta for that play, all I'm saying is I was surprised when watching the highlights the following day that Dunta WOULD of had a chance if he kept sprinting. Go back and watch the highlight for yourself and you will be surprised. Yes the percentage of fault Dunta had on the play was less than anyone else but he was the last line of defense and you should hustle 100% of the play, especially getting paid 50+ million... I'd run full speed every play for that amount of money, wouldn't you?

[SkerFalcon8710]

A 4.5 forty compared to a 4.3 is what maybe a couple of steps over the course of 40 yrds? He was 7 or 8 yrds behind him.. Even with the stumble he catches him by another 2 or 3 steps... Still doesn't catch him.. Stop nit picking you cry baby ***** arizona is this weekend maybe we should worry about fitz and breaston?

[SkerFalcon8710]

You're missing the point. I am in NO WAY bashing Dunta for that play, all I'm saying is I was surprised when watching the highlights the following day that Dunta WOULD of had a chance if he kept sprinting. Go back and watch the highlight for yourself and you will be surprised. Yes the percentage of fault Dunta had on the play was less than anyone else but he was the last line of defense and you should hustle 100% of the play, especially getting paid 50+ million... I'd run full speed every play for that amount of money, wouldn't you?

No you're still bashing him but you are spinning your words so you that its in a nitpicky beat around the bush type of way. When do we play Arizona? And what day of the week is it? GET OVER IT

[CrimsonFalcon]

I don't think even the fastest Falcon would have caught Mendenhall. Sports Science broke down that run and showed that he was running 17MPH on that run. If he had had to make one more move before that stumble, Coleman would've had him where he stumbled.

As fast as 17 mph is for a human being, think about Chris Johnson going 22 mph as opposed to Usain Bolt's 28 MPH...that's fast. Dunta wouldn't have been able to catch him from the far side of the field unless he was equalling Chris Johnson's speed, which he is about half a tenth slower than Johnson.

[hardenmj]

this is a real stretch...peterson got owned by the fullback and biermann got tossed out of the way by the tight end and grimes took the wrong gap...that is what im worried about not dunta catching a running back who has 10 yards on him

[Hashbrown3]

C'mon man. I'm sure if you look hard enough at the zona game u could find another angle to tell Dunta how much you know about his ability to catch a guy downfield or whatever. I trust that Dunta runs like a horse after him if he knew he could get close to tracking him down. Otherwise, why try to speculate about a pro CB who makes a living with his legs, and knows exaclty what it would take to run him down. Dam the guy plays one game and the snipers are out. Hey, by mid to 3/4 of the season we may have a better understanding of whether we improved the CB position w/ Dunta. I will say this, we basically shut them down Sunday so as far as I am concerned, one game is over and our DB situation was improved drastically over last year. Not to say it will stay this way w/ starting QB's in there, but so far so good. We must fix whatever happened when Ward got left all alone though.

[opensource010]

Two things really frustrated me about Dunta Robinson on Sunday, 1st was the obvious bone head mistake when he didn't tag the player after he caught the ball which was inexcusable. Secondly, which I didn't notice until watching ESPN top plays Monday morning was when Mendenhall broke down the side line they showed a camera view from an angle behind the play, just before Mendenhall stumbles you see Dunta in the corner pulling up and going from a sprint to a jog as if he's already been beat, then a split second after that Mendenhall stumbled for a second and I'm 100% certain if Dunta stayed in a full sprint he would of been able to catch him. Granted it would of still be a 25-30 yard gain and an easy field goal, it really shocked me to see that, especially with his "unstoppable force" quote.

Did anyone other than me notice on one play (can't remember when, think it was in the first quarter) Dunta stopped on a route across the middle to look at the ref, and let his man wide open?

[matty72780]

No you're still bashing him but you are spinning your words so you that its in a nitpicky beat around the bush type of way. When do we play Arizona? And what day of the week is it? GET OVER IT

I am over it, YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT, are you ********? I'm saying that I want to see 100% effort all of the time not bashing anyone. 100% effort is the difference between a 11-5 record or a 9-7. So if you are comfortable with a 9-7 team than keep your opinion to yourself. I was simply making a statement that it looked like Dunta MIGHT OF HAD A CHANCE TO CATCH HIM IF HE WAS RUNNING THE WHOLE TIME!!!!!!!!!!! I'm not blaming Dunta, I'm not bashing him, I was saying I was surprised that he MIGHT of had a chance to catch him but we will never know because Dunta gave up on the play even BEFORE THE STUMBLE! This is the only message forum where people bash other opinions and argue over a message board. Nothing more sad than internet tough guys.

[atlantaprodj]

I am over it, YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT, are you ********? I'm saying that I want to see 100% effort all of the time not bashing anyone. 100% effort is the difference between a 11-5 record or a 9-7. So if you are comfortable with a 9-7 team than keep your opinion to yourself. I was simply making a statement that it looked like Dunta MIGHT OF HAD A CHANCE TO CATCH HIM IF HE WAS RUNNING THE WHOLE TIME!!!!!!!!!!! I'm not blaming Dunta, I'm not bashing him, I was saying I was surprised that he MIGHT of had a chance to catch him but we will never know because Dunta gave up on the play even BEFORE THE STUMBLE! This is the only message forum where people bash other opinions and argue over a message board. Nothing more sad than internet tough guys.

+1

I agree... there is no excuse for anyone privileged enough to play professional sports not to go all out on every play. I understood your point.

It has nothing to do with the play, the loss or whose to blame.

It has everything to do with the heart!

I will however give Dunta a pass because it was obvious missing the preseason didn't help him.

[matty72780]

C'mon man. I'm sure if you look hard enough at the zona game u could find another angle to tell Dunta how much you know about his ability to catch a guy downfield or whatever. I trust that Dunta runs like a horse after him if he knew he could get close to tracking him down. Otherwise, why try to speculate about a pro CB who makes a living with his legs, and knows exaclty what it would take to run him down. Dam the guy plays one game and the snipers are out. Hey, by mid to 3/4 of the season we may have a better understanding of whether we improved the CB position w/ Dunta. I will say this, we basically shut them down Sunday so as far as I am concerned, one game is over and our DB situation was improved drastically over last year. Not to say it will stay this way w/ starting QB's in there, but so far so good. We must fix whatever happened when Ward got left all alone though.

NOT BASHING DUNTA! I'm saying I was a little disappointed that he gave up on the play and stopped running, then coincidentally 1 second AFTER Dunta had taken his sprint to a jog Mendenhall stumbled and clearly lost speed for his next 3-4 strides. All I'm saying is supporting the law of physics-

DUNTA is running full speed after something the same speed, Mendenhall ends up stumbling and is forced to use 3-4 additional strides to get back to full speed, with the momentum of a sprint having been maintained by Dunta he MIGHT of been able to be dive and force him out of bounds or dive and brush the back of Mendenhalls heal tripping him up.

Why is this so hard for people on this message board to understand that I AM NOT bashing anyone, I'm simply saying I was shocked to see that there might of been a possibility that Mendenhall could have gotten caught.