I think getting Tony G. might have been a mistake

[The Falcon Jedi]

Ryan was way better before he got here, spread the ball out more to his WRs. I remember when Ryan actually used to step up in the pocket and sling the ball down-field back in 2008. I wish that Ryan would come back.

Because what Ryan did back then used to spread Defenses out, and it opened up the Running Game for Turner. It made the Offense function better. All we do now is throw to Roddy and Tony, and Defenses are keying in on it.

I love Gonzo, but we should not be throwing to him as much as we do. He should only be a situational receiver, not a 2nd target.

Harry Douglas and Weems are actually very good WRs. We should use them more.

[sdogg]

Ryan was way better before he got here, spread the ball out more to his WRs. I remember when Ryan actually used to step up in the pocket and sling the ball down-field back in 2008. I wish that Ryan would come back.

Because what Ryan did back then used to spread Defenses out, and it opened up the Running Game for Turner. It made the Offense function better. All we do now is throw to Roddy and Tony, and Defenses are keying in on it.

I love Gonzo, but we should not be throwing to him as much as we do. He should only be a situational receiver, not a 2nd target.

Harry Douglas and Weems are actually very good WRs. We should use them more.

I agree. It was ridiculous how obvious they were trying to force TG's 1000 rec.

[Red Death D]

Ryan was way better before he got here, spread the ball out more to his WRs. I remember when Ryan actually used to step up in the pocket and sling the ball down-field back in 2008. I wish that Ryan would come back.

Because what Ryan did back then used to spread Defenses out, and it opened up the Running Game for Turner. It made the Offense function better. All we do now is throw to Roddy and Tony, and Defenses are keying in on it.

I love Gonzo, but we should not be throwing to him as much as we do. He should only be a situational receiver, not a 2nd target.

Harry Douglas and Weems are actually very good WRs. We should use them more.

Then maybe you should coach the team

[kevykev21]

Getting TG wasn't a mistake.

There are plenty of other mistakes, but getting him isn't one of them.

[paulitik]

He targeted him 5 times all game, Roddy 23. You wouldn't say keeping Roddy was a mistake, would you? The problem is Mularkey, Mularkey, Mularkey.

Where are all these wide open receivers? No where. Sure there were a couple times, but no more than any other team has. It's the scheme. You don't dump a player because he's too good.

The other receivers need to rise up, get open and prove to Matt they can make the catch.

Matt needs to scream lalalalalalala, when Mularkey calls plays in his ear.

[CaliSaint4Life]

Ryan targeting him too much is true. But the solution isn't to get rid of your best Offensive player, your QB needs to fix that part of his game.

[luckyhole]

LOL

[scottbravesfan]

He targeted him 5 times all game, Roddy 23. You wouldn't say keeping Roddy was a mistake, would you? The problem is Mularkey, Mularkey, Mularkey.

Where are all these wide open receivers? No where. Sure there were a couple times, but no more than any other team has. It's the scheme. You don't dump a player because he's too good.

The other receivers need to rise up, get open and prove to Matt they can make the catch.

Matt needs to scream lalalalalalala, when Mularkey calls plays in his ear.

I agree Mularkey has got to go.

[The Falcon Jedi]

All I know is that this Offense was very effective before Tony G. got here. And since then it has gone down-hill. The passing game has suffered, the Running game has suffered. The Offense is basically 4 plays:

1. Hand off to Turner up the middle

2. Throw to Roddy

3. Throw to Tony G.

4. Punt

[atljbo]

Ive never heard getting a offensive weapon is a mistake...lol.. we only target Tony G 5 or 6 times sunday...

The problem is we need better play calling and Matt has to spread the ball around. HD is a explosive WR.... Weems is also (in the slot) ... Jenks should be back this week... We need to spread the ball around.

[~SEAMILL~]

Ryan targeting him too much is true. But the solution isn't to get rid of your best Offensive player, your QB needs to fix that part of his game.

Roddy White is our best offensive player, not Tony Gonzalez.

[phattywankenobi]

I guess people listen to the brain dead commentators more than I expect.

-10-ATL 25 (7:46) (Shotgun) 2-Ryan pass incomplete short right to 88-T.Gonzalez (56-L.Woodley). PENALTY on PIT-56-L.Woodley, Defensive Pass Interference, 5 yards, enforced at ATL 25 - No Play.

1-10-ATL 30 (7:41) 2-Ryan pass short right to 84-R.White to ATL 34 for 4 yards (20-B.McFadden).

2-6-ATL 34 (7:06) 33-M.Turner up the middle to ATL 36 for 2 yards (51-J.Farrior, 94-L.Timmons).

3-4-ATL 36 (6:27) (Shotgun) 2-Ryan pass incomplete short left to 84-R.White. Coverage by #92 Harrison.

-10-ATL 32 (4:37) 33-M.Turner right tackle to ATL 35 for 3 yards (51-J.Farrior, 94-L.Timmons).

2-7-ATL 35 (4:01) 2-Ryan pass incomplete deep left to 84-R.White. Coverage by #25 Clark, Pressure by #43 Polamalu.

3-7-ATL 35 (3:56) (Shotgun) 2-Ryan sacked at ATL 25 for -10 yards (56-L.Woodley).

-10-ATL 38 (1:50) 2-Ryan pass incomplete deep left to 84-R.White (24-I.Taylor).

2-10-ATL 38 (1:45) 2-Ryan pass short left to 84-R.White to ATL 48 for 10 yards (24-I.Taylor).

1-10-ATL 48 (1:24) (Shotgun) 33-M.Turner left guard to PIT 48 for 4 yards (99-B.Keisel, 92-J.Harrison).

2-6-PIT 48 (:48) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 2-Ryan pass short right to 14-E.Weems to PIT 43 for 5 yards (20-B.McFadden).

3-1-PIT 43 (:11) 33-M.Turner right tackle to PIT 45 for -2 yards (94-L.Timmons, 20-B.McFadden).

1-10-ATL 28 (12:40) 33-M.Turner left end to ATL 31 for 3 yards (92-J.Harrison, 24-I.Taylor).

2-7-ATL 31 (12:15) 33-M.Turner left guard to ATL 32 for 1 yard (94-L.Timmons, 98-C.Hampton).

3-6-ATL 32 (11:41) (Shotgun) 2-Ryan pass short right to 84-R.White to ATL 48 for 16 yards (20-B.McFadden).

1-10-ATL 48 (11:17) 33-M.Turner left tackle to ATL 46 for -2 yards (94-L.Timmons).

2-12-ATL 46 (10:41) 2-Ryan pass short middle to 83-H.Douglas to PIT 41 for 13 yards (56-L.Woodley).

1-10-PIT 41 (10:04) 2-Ryan pass incomplete deep middle to 88-T.Gonzalez. Coverage by #24 Taylor.

2-10-PIT 41 (9:59) #74 Svitek reports as eligible receiver. 44-J.Snelling left guard to PIT 40 for 1 yard (51-J.Farrior, 25-R.Clark).

3-9-PIT 40 (9:26) (Shotgun) 2-Ryan pass incomplete deep right to 88-T.Gonzalez [96-E.Hood]. Coverage by #94 Timmons.

-10-ATL 28 (4:34) #74 Svitek reports as eligible receiver. 2-Ryan pass deep right to 83-H.Douglas to PIT 49 for 23 yards (43-T.Polamalu).

1-10-PIT 49 (3:59) 2-Ryan pass short left to 32-J.Norwood to PIT 40 for 9 yards (25-R.Clark).

2-1-PIT 40 (3:16) 33-M.Turner right tackle to PIT 35 for 5 yards (92-J.Harrison).

1-10-PIT 35 (2:39) 33-M.Turner left tackle to PIT 30 for 5 yards (96-E.Hood, 24-I.Taylor).

Two-Minute Warning

2-5-PIT 30 (2:00) 2-Ryan pass short right to 87-J.Peelle ran ob at PIT 28 for 2 yards.

3-3-PIT 28 (1:54) (Shotgun) 2-Ryan pass incomplete short left to 32-J.Norwood. Coverage by #92 Harrison.

1-10-ATL 45 (:17) (Shotgun) 2-Ryan pass deep middle to 14-E.Weems to PIT 38 for 17 yards (22-W.Gay).

Timeout #2 by ATL at 00:10.

1-10-PIT 38 (:10) (Shotgun) 2-Ryan pass short left to 84-R.White pushed ob at PIT 31 for 7 yards (24-I.Taylor).

2-3-PIT 31 (:07) (Shotgun) 2-Ryan pass incomplete short right to 84-R.White. Coverage by #22 Gay, #20 McFadden.

Timeout #3 by PIT at 00:04.

3-3-PIT 31 (:04) (Field Goal formation) 3-M.Bryant 49 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-82-J.Zelenka, Holder-9-M.Koenen.

1-10-ATL 23 (14:55) (Shotgun) 2-Ryan pass short right to 14-E.Weems to ATL 28 for 5 yards (20-B.McFadden).

2-5-ATL 28 (14:25) (No Huddle) 33-M.Turner left end to ATL 35 for 7 yards (99-B.Keisel, 25-R.Clark).

1-10-ATL 35 (13:59) (No Huddle) 2-Ryan pass short right to 14-E.Weems ran ob at ATL 44 for 9 yards.

2-1-ATL 44 (13:37) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 33-M.Turner left guard to ATL 46 for 2 yards (91-A.Smith; 51-J.Farrior).

1-10-ATL 46 (13:11) (No Huddle) 2-Ryan pass incomplete short left to 84-R.White. Coverage by #24 Taylor.

2-10-ATL 46 (13:07) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 2-Ryan pass short left to 84-R.White to PIT 49 for 5 yards (24-I.Taylor).

3-5-PIT 49 (12:33) (Shotgun) 2-Ryan pass short right to 88-T.Gonzalez to PIT 36 for 13 yards (25-R.Clark). PENALTY on ATL-88-T.Gonzalez, Illegal Touch Pass, 5 yards, enforced at PIT 49 - No Play.

3-10-ATL 46 (12:19) (Shotgun) 2-Ryan pass short right to 84-R.White to PIT 40 for 14 yards (20-B.McFadden).

[BlazerHarvard]

You were a mistake, Jedi.

[The Falcon Jedi]

Someone explain to me how our 2008 Offense ran so much better, and more fluidly, than ever since then?

Ryan was a rookie, but he lit it up. He stepped up in the pocket under pressure and launched it downfield. He doesnt do that any more. He just checks down to Tony all the time. He doesnt even make his 3rd or 4th read any more. It's either his 1st Read or it's Tony. That's what our passing game is reduced to now.

Has no-one seen this? Really?

[Christopher]

Someone explain to me how our 2008 Offense ran so much better, and more fluidly, than ever since then?

Ryan was a rookie, but he lit it up. He stepped up in the pocket under pressure and launched it downfield. He doesnt do that any more. He just checks down to Tony all the time. He doesnt even make his 3rd or 4th read any more. It's either his 1st Read or it's Tony. That's what our passing game is reduced to now.

Has no-one seen this? Really?

Ever think it was because Ryan was a rookie, no one knew what Turner was about, and it was a whole new team/coaching staff/head office? The simple answer here is game tape. Teams didn't have it then and they do now. Couple that with a complete lack of ingenuity in opening up our offense and you get the piss poor results you are now witnessing.

[paulitik]

Weaker schedule, less film on Matt and our offense. It's the limited number of passing plays, dependence on the Run game, and predictability that's killing us.

[cooperbh]

Honestly... You posted pretty much the exact same topic a mere hour and a half before you posted this one. There's no doubt your threads are the message board equivalent of junk mail - as useless as they are infinite. Unfortunately, this forum lacks any semblance of a spam blocker.

[PuntPuntPass]

Someone explain to me how our 2008 Offense ran so much better, and more fluidly, than ever since then?

Ryan was a rookie, but he lit it up. He stepped up in the pocket under pressure and launched it downfield. He doesnt do that any more. He just checks down to Tony all the time. He doesnt even make his 3rd or 4th read any more. It's either his 1st Read or it's Tony. That's what our passing game is reduced to now.

Has no-one seen this? Really?

Weaker schedule and suprising teams because of lack of film on us. It happens like that for most first year head coaches. The ones that stick around for years or become highly coveted are those that can still keep adjusting and surprising people despite the amount of film adjustement oppostion makes.

This is something sean payton, bill belicheck Brian billick (as an O coordinator for the vikings), Al Saunders, the coach of the chargers and others are all able to acheieve.

[maxatlanta]

No Tony = No back to back winning seasons. We couldn't replace his 80+ receptions(not to mention the game winner in NYJ).

Roddy set a career high in catches vs Pitt. Think Tony had anything to do with that? The Steelers doubled Tony most of the game. They were determined to make someone other than Turner or Tony beat them. Roddy did his best, but he came up about 1 yard and a half short. Bottom line is if we are targeting him too much it is the fault of Ryan- and yes that was an issue last season. But overall he has been a vital part of this team since his arrival.

[NEWORLEANS-YAT]

Honestly... You posted pretty much the exact same topic a mere hour and a half before you posted this one. There's no doubt your threads are the message board equivalent of junk mail - as useless as they are infinite. Unfortunately, this forum lacks any semblance of a spam blocker.

lol

Tony is a Beast

Edited September 14, 2010 by NEWORLEANS-YAT

[Supes™]

unbelievable

[MattM12]

All I know is that this Offense was very effective before Tony G. got here. And since then it has gone down-hill. The passing game has suffered, the Running game has suffered. The Offense is basically 4 plays:

1. Hand off to Turner up the middle

2. Throw to Roddy

3. Throw to Tony G.

4. Punt

what would you rather,

3. Throw to??? deep bomb every time?

agreed we should change it up, but he has helped more than he has hurt, ESPECIALLY when HD went down

[Pauliwood]

i think clicking on this post was a mistake

[ConnFalcon]

The thought of TG being negative to this team and to Matt Ryan is laughable.

[Abe]

Weaker schedule and suprising teams because of lack of film on us. It happens like that for most first year head coaches. The ones that stick around for years or become highly coveted are those that can still keep adjusting and surprising people despite the amount of film adjustement oppostion makes.

This is something sean payton, bill belicheck Brian billick (as an O coordinator for the vikings), Al Saunders, the coach of the chargers and others are all able to acheieve.

I quoted this to say that I have always had a crush on Gabriel Union... Man if I lived near her the neighborhood watch would have to work overtime! Kidding but she is still gorgeous.