g-dawg Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 I keep thinking that Mike Mularkey needs to go but you cannot fire your OC at the beginning of the season. But can the Falcons afford to wait? Abraham is a year older, Gonzalez is a year older, and Michael Turner is 29 years old(or 28?)......while the corps of our team is young we have some key pieces that are at the end of their careers. Who knows what 2011 brings w/ possible work stoppage/lock-out?Obviously fired or not fired you cannot totally phase out the Mularkey offense at this point of season. Bill Musgrave is highly thought of at Flowery Branch, around the NFL and he is a former NFL QB so I gotta believe he would try and make the Falcons offense more "QB friendly" and sophisticated.Heck, if Musgrave did nothing but impowered Matt to make more decisions on his own, and throw in some more sophisticated pass plays than the Mularkey system of drawing them up "in the dirt" - Falcons would have to be better off.Musgrave would have the 2010 season to audition for 2011 as the OC - if he succeeds, great. If he fails, then Falcons can hire someone w/ pedigree as a QB friendly offensive mind in 2011. Arthur Blank just has too much invested to watch this go belly-up. Falcons offense is underachieving and I think will continue to do so under Mularkey - even if it gets better than Sunday - and I'm sure it will - I still don't think it will be "good enough" to do damage in playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~SEAMILL~ Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 (edited) We can strip him of his play calling duties, well "we" cant but you know what I mean.... Edited September 13, 2010 by ~SEAMILL~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 to the squad Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 musgrave is already the vice head coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted September 13, 2010 Author Share Posted September 13, 2010 musgrave is already the vice head coachyeah but he does not call plays and he does not design the offense. He coaches the QB in the offense that Mularkey created and for which Mularkey calls the plays.Big difference!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulitik Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Musgrave will switch us to a WCO. I think that suits Matt's talents, and help the receivers get some YAC, and open up the running game as well. Imagine! Screens and slants. Then we might be able to actually atretch the field for some deep ball too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwood all the way! Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 if mularkey would just open his brain a bit and think outside the box, then that would make me happy. even if airing the ball out and screen plays dont work. i will at least respect him for trying something new....but until then, i say get rid of him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted September 13, 2010 Author Share Posted September 13, 2010 Musgrave will switch us to a WCO. I think that suits Matt's talents, and help the receivers get some YAC, and open up the running game as well. Imagine! Screens and slants. Then we might be able to actually atretch the field for some deep ball too.that would be welcome news paulitik......Matt is perfect for WCO.....Mike Vick was not - Matty Ice would flourish in the WCO and so would the rest of our offense. Matt could get many "big plays" out of the WCO which would be long TDs without necessarily having to throw the ball 40+ yards in the air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 to the squad Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 he should already have the timing with his receivers. i'm still concerned with his staring down of white and gonzalez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted September 13, 2010 Author Share Posted September 13, 2010 he should already have the timing with his receivers. i'm still concerned with his staring down of white and gonzalez.agree w/ you there.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 to the squad Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 again though we played the steelers. they're a superbowl defense with polamalu and harrison. i'd still rather see ryan in the wco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don™ Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Musgrave will switch us to a WCO. I think that suits Matt's talents, and help the receivers get some YAC, and open up the running game as well. Imagine! Screens and slants. Then we might be able to actually atretch the field for some deep ball too.Interesting...I had something like that in mind myself. Just get rid of Mularkey, and we will see a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me4falcons Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 that would be welcome news paulitik......Matt is perfect for WCO.....Mike Vick was not - Matty Ice would flourish in the WCO and so would the rest of our offense. Matt could get many "big plays" out of the WCO which would be long TDs without necessarily having to throw the ball 40+ yards in the air.If i am not mistaking the Eagles run the WCO but, the difference is on the one hand you have Andy Reid and the other hand is greg knapp. Good play callers makes the difference in close games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted September 13, 2010 Author Share Posted September 13, 2010 If i am not mistaking the Eagles run the WCO but, the difference is on the one hand you have Andy Reid and the other hand is greg knapp. Good play callers makes the difference in close games.yes, the Eagles run the WCO and Andy Reid is infinitely better than Greg Knapp. Don't be fooled though by the one good game by Vick. He cannot sustain it. Streaky, streaky player who can be easily defensed by the better DC's in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackForThe2ndTime Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 We need to DO SOMETHING!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy27 Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 besides matt ryan staring down his receivers mularkey has to go!this dude on a 3rd and 1 yesterday with the steelers knowing what we were gonna do they bunched their defense in the middle and this fool still tryed to jam turner in their!! I was like WTH! he sucks get em outta here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLBrave Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 For the love of god, please do this. I'd love Musgrave as the OC, and actually think he will have the job next season unless something changes drastically with Mularky's play-calling (doubt it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xFalconLord Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 PLEASE DO THIS TONIGHT!!!MM is terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falken Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Fire Mike Mularkey?So.... the offensive coordinator that has led us to first ever back to back winning seasons... the offensive coordinator who started three years ago with a rookie QB...The offensive coordinator that many were SCREAMING on these boards be hired as our HC six years ago.......some of you are ready to jettison because we struggled on the road against Pittsburgh?Do you honestly believe that you can find an OC that has never struggled at this level?Aren't defensive coordinators paid in this league as well?Bill Musgrave? Really? And Musgrave would deserve this how? In what way is he qualified enough as a QB coach tojettison a proven coordinator in this league after a tough road loss.Does that REALLY make sense to some of you?"Honey, the toilet is backing up again.""Okay, I'll call the landscaper in the morning."Short of donning pads and a helmet and coming on the field to block yesterday ....Musgrave was NOT going to make a difference.This team has had an entire history of struggling. We've had some really good coaches come through the doors in Suwanee and Flowery Branch. Constant change and knee-jerk reactions has done more harm than good to this franchise. Support your team people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Falcon Jedi Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 I wouldnt have a problem with Musgrave being the OC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nono Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 I keep thinking that Mike Mularkey needs to go but you cannot fire your OC at the beginning of the season. But can the Falcons afford to wait? Abraham is a year older, Gonzalez is a year older, and Michael Turner is 29 years old(or 28?)......while the corps of our team is young we have some key pieces that are at the end of their careers. Who knows what 2011 brings w/ possible work stoppage/lock-out?Obviously fired or not fired you cannot totally phase out the Mularkey offense at this point of season. Bill Musgrave is highly thought of at Flowery Branch, around the NFL and he is a former NFL QB so I gotta believe he would try and make the Falcons offense more "QB friendly" and sophisticated.Heck, if Musgrave did nothing but impowered Matt to make more decisions on his own, and throw in some more sophisticated pass plays than the Mularkey system of drawing them up "in the dirt" - Falcons would have to be better off.Musgrave would have the 2010 season to audition for 2011 as the OC - if he succeeds, great. If he fails, then Falcons can hire someone w/ pedigree as a QB friendly offensive mind in 2011. Arthur Blank just has too much invested to watch this go belly-up. Falcons offense is underachieving and I think will continue to do so under Mularkey - even if it gets better than Sunday - and I'm sure it will - I still don't think it will be "good enough" to do damage in playoffs.ok---done---YOUR FIRED MIKE MULARKEY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcons4life Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Fire Mike Mularkey?So.... the offensive coordinator that has led us to first ever back to back winning seasons... the offensive coordinator who started three years ago with a rookie QB...The offensive coordinator that many were SCREAMING on these boards be hired as our HC six years ago.......some of you are ready to jettison because we struggled on the road against Pittsburgh?Do you honestly believe that you can find an OC that has never struggled at this level?Aren't defensive coordinators paid in this league as well?Bill Musgrave? Really? And Musgrave would deserve this how? In what way is he qualified enough as a QB coach tojettison a proven coordinator in this league after a tough road loss.Does that REALLY make sense to some of you?"Honey, the toilet is backing up again.""Okay, I'll call the landscaper in the morning."Short of donning pads and a helmet and coming on the field to block yesterday ....Musgrave was NOT going to make a difference.This team has had an entire history of struggling. We've had some really good coaches come through the doors in Suwanee and Flowery Branch. Constant change and knee-jerk reactions has done more harm than good to this franchise. Support your team people.Coaches can coach but players have to execute. Sure, I can agree with that....most of the time. Yet if the gameplan is flawed to begin with, then even when a team and its players execute they still can run into disaster.If you build a house and it falls over after 3 years is it the fault of the guys who hammered in the nails or the architect and his poor design?This is how I see the Falcons. Execution happens, its the design that is faulty and that falls on MM's shoulders. Back to back winning seasons is a nice accomplishment but I believe the team did that in spite of MM's playcalling and not because of it. Just as that house stood for 3 years before falling, it did so because of great workmanship despite the shoddy design.We have some young overachievers who are just begging to be guided in the right direction under a proper OC. Until then this offense will remain stunted, predictable, and anemic under MM.It's time to unleash the beast and allow this young,hungry group to show what they can do when a gameplan is installed that allows them to capitalize on their talents rather than stifling them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmite Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 ok---done---YOUR FIRED MIKE MULARKEY!If you're going to make important decisions like this, you're going to have to learn the difference between 'your' and 'you're'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcons4life Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Musgrave will switch us to a WCO. I think that suits Matt's talents, and help the receivers get some YAC, and open up the running game as well. Imagine! Screens and slants. Then we might be able to actually atretch the field for some deep ball too.I think we ran one true middle screen last season. Norwood is tailor made for such a play yet we dont get to see it in this offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xFalconLord Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 We have to be one of the worst catch and run teams in the NFL.. we dont run routes that lead to YAC. How about a drag route? Maybe a skinny post? How about a seam route to the TE with a fade route on the same side? A real WR screen, not some stupid smoke route 1v1. A real, HB screen. Real coaching wisdom says that when you cant run the ball, you "create" runs through the short passing game. You have to widen the field to create run lanes. Mularkey has to be the slowest OC at making adjustments, and he also is hard-headed running the same ole crap. Why are we going 3 TE's to try and run the ball? Clearly this makes the box even more stacked. How about going 3 WRs, singleback and running a stretch play with LESS men in the box to defend the run.Id be shocked if these arent some of the things we bring out next week after someone chews MM a new one in the film room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandtrap Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Fire Mike Mularkey?So.... the offensive coordinator that has led us to first ever back to back winning seasons... the offensive coordinator who started three years ago with a rookie QB...The offensive coordinator that many were SCREAMING on these boards be hired as our HC six years ago.......some of you are ready to jettison because we struggled on the road against Pittsburgh?Do you honestly believe that you can find an OC that has never struggled at this level?Aren't defensive coordinators paid in this league as well?Bill Musgrave? Really? And Musgrave would deserve this how? In what way is he qualified enough as a QB coach tojettison a proven coordinator in this league after a tough road loss.Does that REALLY make sense to some of you?"Honey, the toilet is backing up again.""Okay, I'll call the landscaper in the morning."Short of donning pads and a helmet and coming on the field to block yesterday ....Musgrave was NOT going to make a difference.This team has had an entire history of struggling. We've had some really good coaches come through the doors in Suwanee and Flowery Branch. Constant change and knee-jerk reactions has done more harm than good to this franchise. Support your team people.Wrong wrong wrong wrong....Musgrave has been here the entire time Mularkey has and has worked directly with the leader of our offense since his rookie year, Matt Ryan. One could even argue that Musgrave has a closer relationship to Ryan over Mularkey and probably gets more direct insight from him and knows his strengths and weaknesses better.Instead of..."Honey, the toilet is backing up again.""Okay, I'll call the landscaper in the morning."or in your scenario...."Honey, the toilet is backing up again.""Okay, just leave it and let's hope it goes down on it's own."why not...."Honey, the toilet is backing up again.""No need to call the plumber, we have a plunger, I'll take care of it." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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