PASSER / RECEIVER ANALYSIS

[Tandy]

Every year I watch the games with my DVR and slow-mo the pass plays to determine certain things about our receivers and quarterback that I can't get easily from stats. This year, because I am very interested in the pass protection productivity of our line, I am also timing every snap from the point it is snapped to the point it leaves Ryans hand. I did this in this game and it was very time consuming - so I probably won't do that for every game. I'll do it for a variety of games though - those where we do well vs. do poorly, 3-4 vs. 4-3, etc.

This is not an argument for any specific point - I am merely sharing with you information that I've taken the time to gather that is hard to get elsewhere. I'll update it every week with the new totals rather than creating a different one for every week, however, I have the spreadsheets which contains the breakdown week by week, play by play and player by player if you are interested.

Receiver stats are based on targeted passes - not position, so yes - there are HB's, FB's, TE's and WR's included. Second - these numbers relate ONLY to the passing stats - not rushing. I will keep these numbers up as YTD numbers in this same thread.

2010 Regular Season Numbers Only: (updated through Week 7)

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First - Matt Ryan's (passing only) stats:

Attempts = 252

Completions = 156

Completion Percentage = 61.9 (Completion % - Drops = 68.3%) (Completion % - Throwaways+Drops=77.4%)

First Downs = 81 = 32.1% /att = 51.9% /comp

Touchdowns = 12 = 4.8% /att = 7.7% /comp

Interceptions = 5 = 2.0% /att = 3.2% /comp

Throw Aways = 23 = 9.1% /att = 24.0% /misses (5 on 3D)

Dropped Passes= 16 = 6.3% /att = 16.7% /misses (8 on 3D)

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By Receiver -

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Roddy White

Attempts = 82

Completions = 54

Completion Percentage = 65.9% ( -ThrowAways = 76.1%)

First Downs = 36 = 43.9% att = 66.7% comp

Touchdowns = 5 = 6.1% att = 9.3% comp

Interceptions = 1 = 1.2% att = 1.9% comp

Dropped Pass = 4 = 4.9% att = 14.3% misses (2 on 3D)

Throw Aways = 11 = 13.4% att = 39.3% misses

Yards = 747 = 43.6% Ttl Yds

PERCENTAGE OF TOTAL PASSES FROM RYAN = 32.5% OF ATTEMPTS, 34.6% OF COMPLETIONS

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Michael Jenkins

Attempts = 17

Completions = 8

Completion Percentage = 47.1% ( -ThrowAways = 47.1%)

First Downs = 5 = 29.4% att = 62.5% comp

Touchdowns = 0 = 0% att = 0% comp

Interceptions = 1 = 5.9% att = 12.5% comp

Dropped Pass = 0 = 0% att = 0% misses (0 on 3D)

Throw Aways = 0 = 0% att = 0% misses

Yards = 124 = 7.2% Ttl Yds

PERCENTAGE OF TOTAL PASSES FROM RYAN = 6.7% OF ATTEMPTS, 5.1% OF COMPLETIONS

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Tony Gonzalez

Attempts = 47

Completions = 29

Completion Percentage = 61.7% ( -ThrowAways = 69.2%)

First Downs = 17 = 39.5% att = 63.0% comp

Touchdowns = 3 = 7.0% att = 11.1% comp

Interceptions = 3 = 7.0% att = 11.1% comp

Dropped Pass = 1 = 2.3% att = 6.3% misses (0 on 3D)

Throw Aways = 4 = 8.5% att = 22.2% misses

Yards = 292 = 17% Ttl Yds

PERCENTAGE OF TOTAL PASSES FROM RYAN = 18.7% OF ATTEMPTS, 18.6% OF COMPLETIONS

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Brian Finneran

Attempts = 14

Completions = 9

Completion Percentage = 64.3% ( -ThrowAways = 69.2%)

First Downs = 4 = 28.6% att = 44.4% comp

Touchdowns = 2 = 14.3% att = 22.2% comp

Interceptions = 0 = 0% att = 0% comp

Dropped Pass = 0 = 0% att = 0% misses (0 on 3D)

Throw Aways = 1 = 7.1% att = 20% misses

Yards = 75 = 4.4% Ttl Yds

PERCENTAGE OF TOTAL PASSES FROM RYAN = 5.6% OF ATTEMPTS, 5.8% OF COMPLETIONS

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Harry Douglas

Attempts = 32

Completions = 15

Completion Percentage = 46.9% ( -ThrowAways = 48.4%)

First Downs = 10 = 31.3% att = 66.7% comp

Touchdowns = 1 = 3.1% att = 6.7% comp

Interceptions = 0 = 0% att = 0% comp

Dropped Pass = 4 = 12.5% att = 23.5% misses (3 on 3D)

Throw Aways = 1 = 3.1% att = 5.9% misses

Yards = 179 = 10.4% Ttl Yds

PERCENTAGE OF TOTAL PASSES FROM RYAN = 12.7% OF ATTEMPTS, 9.6% OF COMPLETIONS

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Ovie Mughelli

Attempts = 6

Completions = 5

Completion Percentage = 83.3% ( -ThrowAways = 83.3%)

First Downs = 2 = 33.3% att = 40% comp

Touchdowns = 0 = 0% att = 0% comp

Interceptions = 0 = 0% att = 0% comp

Dropped Pass = 1 = 16.7% att = 100% misses (0 on 3D)

Throw Aways = 0 = 0% att = 0% misses

Yards = 40 = 2.3% Ttl Yds

PERCENTAGE OF TOTAL PASSES FROM RYAN = 2.4% OF ATTEMPTS, 3.2% OF COMPLETIONS

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Jason Snelling

Attempts = 20

Completions = 17

Completion Percentage = 85% ( -ThrowAways = 85%)

First Downs = 1 = 5% att = 5.9% comp

Touchdowns = 1 = 5% att = 5.9% comp

Interceptions = 0 = 0% att = 0% comp

Dropped Pass = 1 = 5% att = 33.3% misses (0 on 3D)

Throw Aways = 0 = 0% att = 0% misses

Yards = 101 = 5.9% Ttl Yds

PERCENTAGE OF TOTAL PASSES FROM RYAN = 7.9% OF ATTEMPTS, 10.9% OF COMPLETIONS

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Jerious Norwood

Attempts = 3

Completions = 1

Completion Percentage = 33.3% ( -ThrowAways = 33.3%)

First Downs = 0 = 0% att = 0% comp

Touchdowns = 0 = 0% att = 0% comp

Interceptions = 0 = 0% att = 0% comp

Dropped Pass = 2 = 66.7% att = 100% misses (2 on 3D)

Throw Aways = 0 = 0% att = 0% misses

Yards = 9 = 0.5% Ttl Yds

PERCENTAGE OF TOTAL PASSES FROM RYAN = 1.2% OF ATTEMPTS, 0.6% OF COMPLETIONS

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Michael Turner

Attempts = 15

Completions = 9

Completion Percentage = 60% ( -ThrowAways = 75%)

First Downs = 0 = 0% att = 0% comp

Touchdowns = 0 = 0% att = 0% comp

Interceptions = 0 = 0% att = 0% comp

Dropped Pass = 1 = 6.7% att = 16.7% misses (0 on 3D)

Throw Aways = 0 = 0% att = 0% misses

Yards = 73 = 4.3% Ttl Yds

PERCENTAGE OF TOTAL PASSES FROM RYAN = 6% OF ATTEMPTS, 5.8% OF COMPLETIONS

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Justin Peelle

Attempts = 5

Completions = 3

Completion Percentage = 60% ( -ThrowAways = 60%)

First Downs = 2 = 40% att = 66.7% comp

Touchdowns = 0 = 0% att = 0% comp

Interceptions = 0 = 0% att = 0% comp

Dropped Pass = 1 = 20% att = 50% misses (0 on 3D)

Throw Aways = 0 = 0% att = 0% misses

Yards = 26 = 1.5% Ttl Yds

PERCENTAGE OF TOTAL PASSES FROM RYAN = 2.0% OF ATTEMPTS, 1.9% OF COMPLETIONS

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Eric Weems

Attempts = 4

Completions = 4

Completion Percentage = 100% ( -ThrowAways = 100%)

First Downs = 1 = 25% att = 25% comp

Touchdowns = 0 = 0% att = 0% comp

Interceptions = 0 = 0% att = 0% comp

Dropped Pass = 0 = 0% att = 0% misses (0 on 3D)

Throw Aways = 0 = 0% att = 0% misses

Yards = 36 = 2.1% Ttl Yds

PERCENTAGE OF TOTAL PASSES FROM RYAN = 1.6% OF ATTEMPTS, 2.6% OF COMPLETIONS

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Michael Palmer

Attempts = 3

Completions = 2

Completion Percentage = 66.7% ( -ThrowAways = 66.7%)

First Downs = 1 = 33.3% att = 50% comp

Touchdowns = 0 = 0% att = 0% comp

Interceptions = 0 = 0% att = 0% comp

Dropped Pass = 0 = 0% att = 0% misses (0 on 3D)

Throw Aways = 0 = 0% att = 0% misses

Yards = 12 = 0.7% Ttl Yds

PERCENTAGE OF TOTAL PASSES FROM RYAN = 1.2% OF ATTEMPTS, 1.3% OF COMPLETIONS

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Other (balls thrown away with no receiver named & odd one time receivers - such as eligible linemen)

Attempts = 4

Completions = 0

Completion Percentage = 0% ( -ThrowAways = 0%)

First Downs = 0 = 0% att = 0% comp

Touchdowns = 0 = 0% att = 0% comp

Interceptions = 0 = 0% att = 0% comp

Dropped Pass = 0 = 0% att = 0% misses (0 on 3D)

Throw Aways = 3 = 75% att = 75% misses

Yards = 0 = 0% Ttl Yds

PERCENTAGE OF TOTAL PASSES FROM RYAN = 1.6% OF ATTEMPTS, 0% OF COMPLETIONS

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The stats in red will only be periodically updated using a variety of games for information

Game1 (3-4 Defense - Top Tier)

AVERAGE TIME FROM SNAP TO PASS REGARDLESS OF OUTCOME = 1.7 SECONDS

LONGEST TIME FROM SNAP TO PASS = 4.0 SECONDS

ATTEMPTS WITH OVER 2 SECONDS TIME FROM SNAP TO PASS = 7 (15.9%)

ATTEMPTS WITH OVER 3 SECONDS TIME FROM SNAP TO PASS = 3 (6.8%)

AVERAGE TIME TIL SACK = 1.5 SECONDS

ATTEMPTS WHILE RUNNING FROM DEFENDER = 10 (22.7%)

Game2 (3-4 Defense - Mid Tier)

AVERAGE TIME FROM SNAP TO PASS REGARDLESS OF OUTCOME = 2.2 SECONDS

LONGEST TIME FROM SNAP TO PASS = 4.6 SECONDS

ATTEMPTS WITH OVER 2 SECONDS TIME FROM SNAP TO PASS = 11 (34.4%)

ATTEMPTS WITH OVER 3 SECONDS TIME FROM SNAP TO PASS = 5 (15.6%)

AVERAGE TIME TIL SACK = 1.7 SECONDS

ATTEMPTS WHILE RUNNING FROM DEFENDER = 4 (12.5%)

Game3 (4-3 Defense)

AVERAGE TIME FROM SNAP TO PASS REGARDLESS OF OUTCOME = 2.7 SECONDS

LONGEST TIME FROM SNAP TO PASS = 5.9 SECONDS

ATTEMPTS WITH OVER 2 SECONDS TIME FROM SNAP TO PASS = 13 (43.3%)

ATTEMPTS WITH OVER 3 SECONDS TIME FROM SNAP TO PASS = 5 (16.7%)

AVERAGE TIME TIL SACK = 2.1 SECONDS

ATTEMPTS WHILE RUNNING FROM DEFENDER = 6 (20%)

Game4 (3-4 Defense)

AVERAGE TIME FROM SNAP TO PASS REGARDLESS OF OUTCOME = 2.0 SECONDS

LONGEST TIME FROM SNAP TO PASS = 4.6 SECONDS

ATTEMPTS WITH OVER 2 SECONDS TIME FROM SNAP TO PASS = 20 (46.5%)

ATTEMPTS WITH OVER 3 SECONDS TIME FROM SNAP TO PASS = 6 (13.9%)

AVERAGE TIME TIL SACK = 2.1 SECONDS

ATTEMPTS WHILE RUNNING FROM DEFENDER = 5 (11.6%)

TIMES HIT WHEN THROWING OR IMMEDIATELY AFTER THROW = 21 (48.9%)

TIMES THROWN UNDER IMMEDIATE PRESSURE = 36 (83.7%)

Game5 (3-4 Defense)

AVERAGE TIME FROM SNAP TO PASS REGARDLESS OF OUTCOME = 2.7 SECONDS

LONGEST TIME FROM SNAP TO PASS = 8.2 SECONDS

ATTEMPTS WITH OVER 2 SECONDS TIME FROM SNAP TO PASS = 19 (67.9%)

ATTEMPTS WITH OVER 3 SECONDS TIME FROM SNAP TO PASS = 6 (21.4%)

AVERAGE TIME TIL SACK = 2.1 SECONDS

ATTEMPTS WHILE RUNNING FROM DEFENDER = 8 (28.6%)

TIMES HIT WHEN THROWING OR IMMEDIATELY AFTER THROW = 13 (46.4%)

TIMES THROWN UNDER IMMEDIATE PRESSURE = 21 (75.0%)

Game6 (4-3 Defense)

AVERAGE TIME FROM SNAP TO PASS REGARDLESS OF OUTCOME = 1.8 SECONDS

LONGEST TIME FROM SNAP TO PASS = 3.4 SECONDS

ATTEMPTS WITH OVER 2 SECONDS TIME FROM SNAP TO PASS = 19 (44.2%)

ATTEMPTS WITH OVER 3 SECONDS TIME FROM SNAP TO PASS = 3 (6.9%)

AVERAGE TIME TIL SACK = 1.8 SECONDS

ATTEMPTS WHILE RUNNING FROM DEFENDER = 8 (18.6%)

TIMES HIT WHEN THROWING OR IMMEDIATELY AFTER THROW = 13 (30.2%)

TIMES THROWN UNDER IMMEDIATE PRESSURE = 30 (69.8%)

[Atlsport]

That's alot of work, but intersting info. I had thought about making a similar topic minus the number crunching. There is nice distribution to different players and that's great, but I expect that we will see it being heavily slanted towards 2 players as the season .

[Tandy]

That's alot of work, but intersting info. I had thought about making a similar topic minus the number crunching. There is nice distribution to different players and that's great, but I expect that we will see it being heavily slanted towards 2 players as the season .

Over half his passes are still going to Roddy though.

[Guest Don Q]

Can you please come up with something that will explain why our receivers have no separation whatsoever every time they make a catch.

[sdogg]

Over half his passes are still going to Roddy though.

And Troy knew his gamble to jump the route, was a gamble worth taking. V-Jax would take care of that real quick.

[sdogg]

+1 on your work. Thanks for the info.

[LADBABY]

Over half his passes are still going to Roddy though.

So this would increase the odds for Troy Polamalu in

leaving his area and running all the way to the sideline

to jump one of his passes. He had a good idea of where

the ball was going.

[since68andcounting]

Great work. 50% to Roddy. Wow. I would have thought his and Gonzo's were about even.

We need more passes to Douglas and the RBs.

The other thing this tells me is that our O-Line is NOT getting it done. Average time to sack 1.5 seconds??? And 10 attempts while fleeing a defender? Geeeezzz. The guy is running for his life.

[Rai]

I thought we pass blocked pretty well that game and Matt Ryan played well from the pocket for the most part.

[Peyton]

Incredible job Tandy, outstanding. Truly a thread that a stat guy like me just loves.

Twenty three passes to Roddy White, more than half of all the attempts.

That reminds me of something that was posted on here recently.........I don't call exactly......what was it........oh yeah.............Stat Of the Day

[Tax-Falcon]

Over half his passes are still going to Roddy though.

Which is way too many.

[Finally]

Can you confirm that Matt is throwing it away more often against 3-4s? It seems like he is.

[Tax-Falcon]

Incredible job Tandy, outstanding. Truly a thread that a stat guy like me just loves.

Twenty three passes to Roddy White, more than half of all the attempts.

That reminds me of something that was posted on here recently.........I don't call exactly......what was it........oh yeah.............Stat Of the Day

That's disturbing.

[Peyton]

That's disturbing.

Disturbing that the it he is seemingly getting even more. I mean yesterday, what was it, 13 for Roddy and 6 for all other WR combined?

[falconsd56]

Over half his passes are still going to Roddy though.

But that is because he is our Elite wr.

And that is why he IS an elite wr.

I bet if you crunched hte number with other great wrs on teams you find similar #'s

Thats the reason they are " go to" guys.

Awesome oringal post though. Ryan had a better day numbers wise then I think people understand. when you consider the defense we were playing, WHERE we were playing and the fact he got no help from runnning game, minus that one throw he could not have done too much more.

[Snelling44]

Can you please come up with something that will explain why our receivers have no separation whatsoever every time they make a catch.

Our routes are poorly designed and are usually hooks, comeback routes, or out routes(seriously that is a huge chunk of our playbook). All of these routes usually involve the WR having to face the LOS which makes it a lot harder to turn around and pick up yards. Also, Matt Ryan just simply does not have enough velocity on his passes to get it to his WR's early. Yes he has good timing, but even still by the time his pass gets there the defenders have a lot more time to react and move in for the tackle.

I'm sick of seeing all of our WR's get pushed back or out of bounds immediately after making a catch.

[Tandy]

Can you confirm that Matt is throwing it away more often against 3-4s? It seems like he is.

Not yet. I should be able to confirm it after a few more games though. 2008 - I kept this up very well - last year - only about half the year because of the way things were going - however - I'll go back to last years and see if I can split it 3-4 and 4-3 and give you an idea.

[Tax-Falcon]

Disturbing that the it he is seemingly getting even more. I mean yesterday, what was it, 13 for Roddy and 6 for all other WR combined?

Weems had four, Douglas with three. But still, it's getting out of hand.

[Peyton]

But that is because he is our Elite wr.

And that is why he IS an elite wr.

I bet if you crunched hte number with other great wrs on teams you find similar #'s

Thats the reason they are " go to" guys.

Awesome oringal post though. Ryan had a better day numbers wise then I think people understand. when you consider the defense we were playing, WHERE we were playing and the fact he got no help from runnning game, minus that one throw he could not have done too much more.

Uh NO. There is no receiver in the league getting anywhere near half of the passes thrown by his QB. Not even remotely close.

[falconsd56]

Uh NO. There is no receiver in the league getting anywhere near half of the passes thrown by his QB. Not even remotely close.

really?

I am willing to bet Moss and Welker get a huge portion of the throws their direction.

Calvin Johnson is the only threat the lions have in the passing game, he gets a lions share of passes thrown at him.

Fitzgerald even with Boldin there had more passes thrown his way, Just like Boldin will in Baltimore.

Chad Ocho probably gets more then 50% of passes thrown his way...thast going to decline with TO there but Chad is still going to get a lions share of targets.

And you can not tell me Steve Smith in carolina is not the primary target on atleast half the passing plays.

[falconsd56]

I just want him to throw to who ever is open, if its roddy 30 times a game I DONT CARE, If the guy is always covered and he keeps throwing thats one thing but when a guy is open you keep throwing to him.

Its the same thing I said about when Vick was here, I did not care if he got a first down by running or passing... just get the bleepin first down

[Tandy]

You have no idea how misleading this is. No clue, your inane babbling is a big problem around here, if you want to hate, go elsewhere, if you don't like how things work, find a team that does it how you want, there are 32 teams in the NFL I'm sure any of them would love to have your criticism.

Add Tony G into the equation, because ya know what, labeled TE or not, he IS a pass catcher, he's a legit WR. More and more in today's NFL this is the case that teams are counting on TEs to stretch the seam and make big plays to help out, we have ours, and your stat isn't even close to factual without it.

How many teams fielded as many different WRs as Atlanta last year? How many of them had a corps so shallow last year that when their #3 WR went down, they were scrambling to find someone to step in? Without Harry in the lineup our offense really struggled. Yesterday we're in the same situation, we're down our #2 WR and everyone got bumped up, are we better off this year? Absolutely, but do we have the depth to have a Dez Bryant as a #3 WR? nope, not yet.

Go on and troll elsewhere, quit bringing this noise, and leave this quality thread alone, go away.

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Tandy,

Thank you for taking the time to compile all of this and watch a game closely enough to come up with these stats. The "Drops" that you're giving Roddy, to you what constitutes a drop? I know of 2 from the game, neither one would I quantify as a "drop" because that's like attributing an error in baseball to me. A Drop is a pass that SHOULD have been caught, not one that COULD have been caught. Can you clarify this in your stats?

Drops are the passes that are in their hands - and then not. Those are passes that receivers SHOULD catch - especially your #1 receiver - and especially on a 3rd down.

If the ball hits them on the numbers and they don't catch it - or goes through their hands - or if they can't hold on to it through the catch - that's a drop to me. I guess that it could be defined differently - that's just the way I see it. If it's a pass that 90% of the other receivers in that same position would have come down with - I call it a drop - but only if it hits their hands or their numbers.

Good question though - and every time I get to one of those - I spend countless times backing and forwarding the DVR to try to determine if I'm calling it right. I still don't know if they are 100% right based on everyones definition - but I try to be as fair as possible.

Roddy times: 1st Quarter - 6:26, 2nd Quarter - 1:54, 3rd Quarter - 13:11, 3rd Quarter - 2:11, OT - 12:52

Look at those and please - let's talk about it - that is by far the hardest thing to make a determination on. I'd definitely welcome the discussion - - maybe we can come up with sure criteria for future determinations.

Edit - actually - that's all the drops - the 1:54 in 2nd Qtr and 12:52 in OT were Norwoods. Roddy had 3 drops.

Edited September 14, 2010 by Tandy

[Chitown2ATL_Falcon]

Drops are the passes that are in their hands - and then not. Those are passes that receivers SHOULD catch - especially your #1 receiver - and especially on a 3rd down.

If the ball hits them on the numbers and they don't catch it - or goes through their hands - or if they can't hold on to it through the catch - that's a drop to me. I guess that it could be defined differently - that's just the way I see it. If it's a pass that 90% of the other receivers in that same position would have come down with - I call it a drop - but only if it hits their hands or their numbers.

Good question though - and every time I get to one of those - I spend countless times backing and forwarding the DVR to try to determine if I'm calling it right. I still don't know if they are 100% right based on everyones definition - but I try to be as fair as possible.

Roddy times: 1st Quarter - 6:26, 2nd Quarter - 1:54, 3rd Quarter - 13:11, 3rd Quarter - 2:11, 4th Quarter - 12:52

Look at those and please - let's talk about it - that is by far the hardest thing to make a determination on. I'd definitely welcome the discussion - - maybe we can come up with sure criteria for future determinations.

Tandy, I agree with your definition of a "drop".

[Durrty]

I think we need V-Jax here. I've been pulling for this guy since. Ryan will distribute the ball, but it's tough when only two of your receivers get decent seperation. Roddy and HD have been good at that. Add V-Jax and we'll see Ryan's 1st down completions increase and throwaways decrease, plus there won't be as many drops either.

Bank on it.

[theProf]

Tandy great research and information. A quick conclusion from the game 1 data would be to throw the ball to HD and Weems a little more during future games, and a little less to Roddy. The hardest thing to ascertain from game-watching on TV is whether or not the other receivers are getting open, or is Roddy getting open a lot more often or getting much better separation than the other Falcon receivers?