Leon Troutsky Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 The right is steadily getting hijacked by fringe idiocy:http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/42056.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kicker Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 He should have just said he was clean and articulate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pencilpusher. just because Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 They are going to have to color code their xenophobia so the mouthbreathers can really understand it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 to the squad Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 pretty sure newt gingrich is alot smarter than you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambler Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Newt should know better. His mostly brilliant ideas get tossed out with comments like this that serve no purpose but to cater to tea partiers. He has the tea party`s support anyway, these statements cut into his support from the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 to the squad Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 what does newt need support for? he's no shot at the presidency not with his hypocrtical stance on clinton's cigarcapades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambler Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 what does newt need support for? he's no shot at the presidency not with his hypocrtical stance on clinton's cigarcapades.We all know Newt is running for President. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pencilpusher. just because Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 We all know Newt is running for President.Then why would he need the tea party's support? The dude divorced two wives while they were bed ridden in the hospital. Surely as #### he would never appeal to any party claiming the moral high ground, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATL Bear Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 At least read the article before commenting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1968again Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Newt needs a hugDreams of a LunaticFrom the timing of it it looks like Newt McPherson, a 19 year-old mechanic living in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, had a shotgun wedding in September 1942 when it was discovered that 16-year old Kit Daugherty was pregnant. The marriage lasted three days and was over long before their baby, Newt Gingrich, was born. It would seem, then, that Newt Gingrich should be able to relate to someone like Barack Obama Jr., whose father abandoned him at a young age. Maybe Newt has had dreams of his father, the mechanic. Maybe he has wondered why his father didn't want to help raise him. What I don't think Newt has done is make every political decision with an eye to finishing his missing father's unfinished business. http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2010/9/13/121517/100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Troutsky Posted September 14, 2010 Author Share Posted September 14, 2010 Newt should know better. His mostly brilliant ideas get tossed out with comments like this that serve no purpose but to cater to tea partiers. He has the tea party`s support anyway, these statements cut into his support from the middle.Wow, I completely agree with you. I'm a fan of Newt's policy ideas. His ideas about using Edward Deming's theories in government are what's needed from the right. As you said, he corrupts his message with stunts like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Troutsky Posted September 14, 2010 Author Share Posted September 14, 2010 We all know Newt is running for President.I don't think he's seriously running for president. I think the presidential runs every four years are attempts to continue selling his book. That's why comments like this make sense from his perspective--he keeps his name out there which keeps his books selling. I wish he had stuck with being a policy guy and had worked on becoming the intellectual backbone of the conservative movement (something they desperately need right now). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Troutsky Posted September 14, 2010 Author Share Posted September 14, 2010 pretty sure newt gingrich is alot smarter than you.Probably not, but he's an intelligent guy. He's also an idiot. The two are not mutually exclusive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 to the squad Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 66% of american's relate to the Tea Party Movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Troutsky Posted September 14, 2010 Author Share Posted September 14, 2010 66% of american's relate to the Tea Party Movement.Uh...link? :wacko: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 to the squad Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/america_s_best_days 68% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Troutsky Posted September 14, 2010 Author Share Posted September 14, 2010 http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/america_s_best_days68%:facepalm:First off, Rasmussen is notorious for drawing samples that are more conservative than other polls, so the number of people who prefer smaller government is lower than 68%.However, the question itself has nothing to do with the TEA Party movement. Questions about size and scope of government trend inversely to the current administration. During Reagan's first four terms, the public said they wanted MORE government. During Clinton's first four years, they said they wanted LESS government. During Bush's first four years, they wanted more government again. Back and forth it goes.It's called a "thermostatic" theory of public opinion. Consider driving a car. You don't have to point the car a certain direction every second you're driving. Instead, you survey the direction of the car and make minor corrections. If the car veers to the right, you turn a little to the left. If it veers hard to the right, you turn the wheel more to the left. The public, which is overwhelmingly moderate in its policy opinions, react to the policies of the party in power. They want moderate policies, so when Republicans pass a bunch of conservative policies that cut government, they say react by wanting more government. When Democrats pass a lot of spending and big government policies, they react by wanting less government. "Less" is relative to the party in power, IOW. "Less government" right now means less than what Obama and the Democrats are giving them. That in no way means they support the policies of the TEA Party. Let the TEA Party idiots gain power and you'll see the most liberal electorate (at least in their reactions to that question) you've seen in decades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambler Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 I am just curious if Obama in less than 2 years of office is destroying the country so bad that it needs fixing now then when the Republicans take over in November do we give them 1 year if they are serving two year terms or 2.5 years if they are serving 6 years to fix the country? Will the same folks that are leveling harsh comments at Obama be willing to make a pledge to give the Republicans the EXACT SAME TREATMENT? If so I would encouraged all Democrats to vote Republican this November just to have a reason to say we need to buy guns and ammo because they are taking away our freedoms. Let the game begin.p.s. That would mean the same folks that will be voting Republican might have to become Democrats in two years. HAHA!!The problem Obama has is the what the military calls " a lack in confidence in his ability to lead". Businesses and Wall Street have a death grip on their cash which is causing the recovery to stall. It doesn't really matter why a lack in confidence happens, but once it does a President is on death row. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 to the squad Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 :facepalm:you can try to deny it all you want, but you're an outcast, the fringe of society. your thinking is perverse and not welcomed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Troutsky Posted September 14, 2010 Author Share Posted September 14, 2010 you can try to deny it all you want, but you're an outcast, the fringe of society. your thinking is perverse and not welcomed. That's why all of those Americans support Tea Party policies, huh? Oh wait:Support extending Bush tax cuts for the wealthy: 29%Support repealing health care law: 32%Support replacing Medicare with vouchers: 33%Support Constitutional amendment to deny citizenship to children of illegals: 46%Among Republicans: Less than half support extending Bush tax cuts for wealthy.Less than half support replacing Medicare with vouchers.Link:http://people-press.org/report/653/Yeah, tell me again about how *I* am at the fringe and how the Tea Party extremists represent mainstream America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 to the squad Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 labeling the tea party as extremist is pretty moronic considering this world has things like sharia law and white supremecists. again you're some what of a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Troutsky Posted September 15, 2010 Author Share Posted September 15, 2010 labeling the tea party as extremist is pretty moronic considering this world has things like sharia law and white supremecists. again you're some what of a joke.I'd say that a movement that gets, at most, a third of Americans saying they have a favorable opinion of it is on the fringe. It's hardly the majority you claimed earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Julian Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 The biggest weapon the tea party has is their belief that Obama is not American. The hate for Obama would still exist if he was of African American lineage,but because he isnt the hatred has turned into a sick kind of fear.People fear what they dont understand, and for Americans they understand African Americans for the most part. A shared history means they know collectively where their culture is coming from, even when they refuse to acknowledge understanding of it.With Obama everything is different. They dont know where he is coming from, and they honestly dont know what to expect. Early on with Obama they tried to play him the same way they would an older person of african american descent. This is where the old "He hates white people!!" and the "He wants revenge for slavery"...Then it hit them that this wasnt the reality of him, nor was it of his african parents or grandparents. This is where they tried to switch it to "Hes not really AMERICAN!!". This didnt work because Obama truly was the son of an American born woman. They questioned his intelligence, but had to stop when it proved that he is brilliant. Now we are back at square one with a twist...implying he wants to "Stick it to the white man" based on the fact his dad grew up in a British Colony. Newt, like most Americans, know bollocks about Africa or Kenya other than the Christian commercials begging for money. What Newt fails to realize is that all africans are not alike, and that many of the ethnic groups foolishly helped European invaders. One of these groups includes Obamas, and his own Grandfather served in the British military, and sought to help them by trying to make British East Africa more self reliant, but not independant of the "Mother Country", in a time where the the UK was in shambles after WWII. Newt couldnt understand the Kenyan mindset of the 50's even if he tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Testasparo Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 (edited) http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/america_s_best_days68%I was never polled on this, so that number is skewed. Edited September 24, 2010 by Testasparo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kicker Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 The biggest weapon the tea party has is their belief that Obama is not American. The hate for Obama would still exist if he was of African American lineage,but because he isnt the hatred has turned into a sick kind of fear.People fear what they dont understand, and for Americans they understand African Americans for the most part. A shared history means they know collectively where their culture is coming from, even when they refuse to acknowledge understanding of it.With Obama everything is different. They dont know where he is coming from, and they honestly dont know what to expect. Early on with Obama they tried to play him the same way they would an older person of african american descent. This is where the old "He hates white people!!" and the "He wants revenge for slavery"...Then it hit them that this wasnt the reality of him, nor was it of his african parents or grandparents. This is where they tried to switch it to "Hes not really AMERICAN!!". This didnt work because Obama truly was the son of an American born woman. They questioned his intelligence, but had to stop when it proved that he is brilliant. Now we are back at square one with a twist...implying he wants to "Stick it to the white man" based on the fact his dad grew up in a British Colony. Newt, like most Americans, know bollocks about Africa or Kenya other than the Christian commercials begging for money. What Newt fails to realize is that all africans are not alike, and that many of the ethnic groups foolishly helped European invaders. One of these groups includes Obamas, and his own Grandfather served in the British military, and sought to help them by trying to make British East Africa more self reliant, but not independant of the "Mother Country", in a time where the the UK was in shambles after WWII. Newt couldnt understand the Kenyan mindset of the 50's even if he tried.You seem to be consumed by race issues. I hope you get the **** over that at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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