Supes™ Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 We couldn't run the ball, plain and simple. Our running game was stuffed like an olive. We struggle against 3-4 D's, and Sunday was no exception against possibly the best D we'll face all season. 20 carries, 42 yards,.... chalk one up in the "L" column. I've already seen folks in here claiming Turner's slow, he's a bum, etc. No one is giving much credit to a great Steelers D,...they just wanna blame Turner. I don't see it that way at all. A good running back has to be patient in the backfield once he has the ball and give his line a second to open up a crease, but the creases today were nonexistent. He had nowhere to go except down. Credit the Steelers D.Anyway, a wise man once said that if you have to lose games like that brawl was, it's much better to lose them early in the season. You can't get much earlier than the first game, so the best thing we can do is put it behind us and forget about it.The Colts lost, as did the Cowboys. Anybody wanna say their seasons are over or they suck? I wouldn't.It was one loss. It counts as one. That's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Falcon Jedi Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Our Offensive Line Sucks. Period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the evil emperor Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 They scored more points than we did ? :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Falcon4Ever- Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Thanks supes Ive been trying to be the voice of reason. Nice to have some back up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supes™ Posted September 13, 2010 Author Share Posted September 13, 2010 Our Offensive Line Sucks. Period.Sam Baker had a bad day, sho 'nuff.On the other side of the ball, we sure missed Babs. His size and strength could have made a difference against that monster Steeler O line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Falcon Jedi Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Harvey Dahl & Tyson Clabo - they need to both just be let go when they become free-agents.Todd McClure - should have retired last year. He is done.Sam Baker - he looks like a backup LT. He cant handle NFL edge rushers.This entire O-Line needs to be overhauled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmite Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Yeah, their D was real good. I think it will prepare us well for upcoming games. We get the best defense we'll play out of the way early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemDirtyBirds4 Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Yeah the Steelers D was the real reason Turner never got going. They got great penetration with the dline and linebackers. I think there was only a few plays where Turner made it past the line of scrimmage without being hit. It seemed on most runs Turner was hit in the backfield. I wish on the third and one we would have let Ryan throw for the first, the way the Steelers were playing there was no way we were going to run for the first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Zee Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Sam Baker had a bad day, sho 'nuff.Baker did not have a good day and neither did Dahl... they got abused. With that said, I completely agree that its one game and its early in the season. We better make some needed adjustments on offense and defense as we move forward or we could possibly be 0-3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripedss Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 We couldn't run the ball, plain and simple. Our running game was stuffed like an olive. We struggle against 3-4 D's, and Sunday was no exception against possibly the best D we'll face all season. 20 carries, 42 yards,.... chalk one up in the "L" column. I've already seen folks in here claiming Turner's slow, he's a bum, etc. No one is giving much credit to a great Steelers D,...they just wanna blame Turner. I don't see it that way at all. A good running back has to be patient in the backfield once he has the ball and give his line a second to open up a crease, but the creases today were nonexistent. He had nowhere to go except down. Credit the Steelers D.Anyway, a wise man once said that if you have to lose games like that brawl was, it's much better to lose them early in the season. You can't get much earlier than the first game, so the best thing we can do is put it behind us and forget about it.The Colts lost, as did the Cowboys. Anybody wanna say their seasons are over or they suck? I wouldn't.It was one loss. It counts as one. That's all.They scored a touchdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidious Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 We couldn't run the ball, plain and simple. Our running game was stuffed like an olive. We struggle against 3-4 D's, and Sunday was no exception against possibly the best D we'll face all season. 20 carries, 42 yards,.... chalk one up in the "L" column. I've already seen folks in here claiming Turner's slow, he's a bum, etc. No one is giving much credit to a great Steelers D,...they just wanna blame Turner. I don't see it that way at all. A good running back has to be patient in the backfield once he has the ball and give his line a second to open up a crease, but the creases today were nonexistent. He had nowhere to go except down. Credit the Steelers D.Anyway, a wise man once said that if you have to lose games like that brawl was, it's much better to lose them early in the season. You can't get much earlier than the first game, so the best thing we can do is put it behind us and forget about it.The Colts lost, as did the Cowboys. Anybody wanna say their seasons are over or they suck? I wouldn't.It was one loss. It counts as one. That's all.Luckily for us the loss was an intraconference loss. Cowboys, Vikings, Colts all suffered conference losses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suave G i B Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Even if the run play is stuffed, Turner needs to POUND THE ROCK.Hitting the tacklers makes for holes later on in the game.I cannot stress this enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supes™ Posted September 13, 2010 Author Share Posted September 13, 2010 Luckily for us the loss was an intraconference loss. Cowboys, Vikings, Colts all suffered conference losses.Excellent point.Edit: Not the Vikings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstammer Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Part of why the Steelers' D was so effective vs the run was because we NEVER put any pressure on the safeties or corners. We ran crap short routes that NEVER forced them more than a few yards from the line of scrimmage. Hard for anyone to run with 8 defenders in the box. You want to move them off, take a few shots downfield and make them help the other backs.I'm not saying that I'm smarter than the coaches, but damn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raysnill1 Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Harvey Dahl & Tyson Clabo - they need to both just be let go when they become free-agents.Todd McClure - should have retired last year. He is done.Sam Baker - he looks like a backup LT. He cant handle NFL edge rushers.This entire O-Line needs to be overhauled.once again our OL isn't as bad as yall make em out to be. now Baker did get handled today but if *I* knew where the ball was going and I figured out the snap count and I was up against a QB that forces passes to 2 receivers, I would probably make a few linemen look weak too. and all them bunch formations need to go. the only one i saw that worked today was the final run by Mendenhall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOCTHEFALCONFAN™ Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 (edited) Great Post Supers! - Agree 100% Edited September 13, 2010 by CHOCTHEFALCONFAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Zee Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Part of why the Steelers' D was so effective vs the run was because we NEVER put any pressure on the safeties or corners. We ran crap short routes that NEVER forced them more than a few yards from the line of scrimmage. Hard for anyone to run with 8 defenders in the box. You want to move them off, take a few shots downfield and make them help the other backs.I'm not saying that I'm smarter than the coaches, but ****.I think Mularkey has removed all pass plays of 30 yards form this offense... thats the only explanation I have for us not going deep just to keep defenses honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 GREAT POST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falken Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 The classic case of over-reaction Supes.We played against a great defense in a noisy atmosphere. We had our chances. We came up short.We didn't have our second penalty called against us until overtime. That's a sign of a well coached team. Our defense played great. Roddy made some tough catches. We lost to a championship caliber defense in overtime. I find no shame in that.The key to the playoffs has always been the same. Win your home games and try to steal a few on the road.I like our chances. Color me red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supes™ Posted September 13, 2010 Author Share Posted September 13, 2010 Part of why the Steelers' D was so effective vs the run was because we NEVER put any pressure on the safeties or corners. We ran crap short routes that NEVER forced them more than a few yards from the line of scrimmage. Hard for anyone to run with 8 defenders in the box. You want to move them off, take a few shots downfield and make them help the other backs.I'm not saying that I'm smarter than the coaches, but ****.I agree totally, James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Zee Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 The classic case of over-reaction Supes.We played against a great defense in a noisy atmosphere. We had our chances. We came up short.We didn't have our second penalty called against us until overtime. That's a sign of a well coached team. Our defense played great. Roddy made some tough catches. We lost to a championship caliber defense in overtime. I find no shame in that.The key to the playoffs has always been the same. Win your home games and try to steal a few on the road.I like our chances. Color me red.+1 but we still need to go deep more often in games to keep defenses honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyofish Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Harvey Dahl & Tyson Clabo - they need to both just be let go when they become free-agents.Todd McClure - should have retired last year. He is done.Sam Baker - he looks like a backup LT. He cant handle NFL edge rushers.This entire O-Line needs to be overhauled.Blaylock's the unsung hero. You never hear his named called on an untimely penalty, or getting overpowered by a defender. I agree our OL got pushed around today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyhateme : ) Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 We couldn't run the ball, plain and simple. Our running game was stuffed like an olive. We struggle against 3-4 D's, and Sunday was no exception against possibly the best D we'll face all season. 20 carries, 42 yards,.... chalk one up in the "L" column. I've already seen folks in here claiming Turner's slow, he's a bum, etc. No one is giving much credit to a great Steelers D,...they just wanna blame Turner. I don't see it that way at all. A good running back has to be patient in the backfield once he has the ball and give his line a second to open up a crease, but the creases today were nonexistent. He had nowhere to go except down. Credit the Steelers D.Anyway, a wise man once said that if you have to lose games like that brawl was, it's much better to lose them early in the season. You can't get much earlier than the first game, so the best thing we can do is put it behind us and forget about it.The Colts lost, as did the Cowboys. Anybody wanna say their seasons are over or they suck? I wouldn't.It was one loss. It counts as one. That's all.But we have a "traditional" pocket passer that completed 27 passes for 252 yards but failed to throw 1 TD when we needed it. That's how I see it. How can you consistantly run against 8 in the box and blitzes coming from everywhere...you don't. You invite them in and "dump" it right over there heads. It's called "Dink and Dunk" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supes™ Posted September 13, 2010 Author Share Posted September 13, 2010 But we have a "traditional" pocket passer that completed 27 passes for 252 yards but failed to throw 1 TD when we needed it. That's how I see it. How can you consistantly run against 8 in the box and blitzes coming from everywhere...you don't. You invite them in and "dump" it right over there heads. It's called "Dink and Dunk"Sounds easy enough, but again, they've got a great D all the way around.We're a run first team. We couldn't run it at all today, and I think that's what made all the difference.Ryan had a pretty good game, Roddy had a great one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuntPuntPass Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Our Offensive Line Sucks. Period.Touche Jedi. I have been thinking this since middle of last season. They just dont farewell against playoff level defenses. Harvey dahl and clabo's level of talent against DT's and DE's on playoff teams is below average. As much as I loathe the aints, this is one reason they were able to make deep playoff run. They can keep their QB upright almost 90% of the time without him having to throw it away much. In addition, they can pound it whenever needed as we've seen since last year and this past thursday against a very formidable Vikings D-line. We can't keep making excuses for these guys. Yes Steelers D is GOOD. We made them look great because they could manhandle our weak overrated line. Their corners aren't really that good to be honest. They can be had in the secondary. Their front seven is formidable though but not invincible. We need to start being able to run on teams like these if we expect to make it to the dance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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