Zodiac Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 I don't know about you guys but we have to quit playing this conservatively, Ryan managed the game and looked great except on that 1 pic which was a **** good design by the Steelers. The 3 Drives where they let Ryan call the plays from the huddle were the best. Mularkey is obviously way to passive to make this offense work. We have all the weapons to score 30+ points a game but mularkey seems to want to do limited war and not use any of it.We really need a back-up C that can handle a 3-4 nose guard McClure is just not made out for it. I would suggest drafting Ben Jones this year if he comes out early or next year He's 6'3 and 300 LBs a much better match up against a NT.Our D looks great, but we really should've had like 4 INts we had 3 slip out of hands Abe, Owens, and Davis.We need to work on containing the long yardage plays and stop putting out that **** prevent defense, you know what they say about PRevent Defense, the only thing it does is prevent your own team from winning.TL:DR we need to stop with the Mother Teresa like playcalling, find a C that can handle a noseguard and Stop playing that ******** prevent defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dharma Initiative Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 I'm starting to think it isn't Mularky choosing to shoot downfield. We saw Redman go deep quite a few times in his couple of starts last season. Ryan seems to try and play it safe more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoastBeeph Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 (edited) Completely agreed. I am not sure if it is the coaches fault or Ryan's, but we are just way too conservative on offense. We never try for the long pass play which frustrates me to no end. We are way too vanilla. Edited September 13, 2010 by RoastBeeph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostofdonkey Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Hate to break it to the homers here but Ryan has the control to make a read and throw it deep. Ryan plays scared, his accuracy over 15yrds is awful coupled with Chad Pennington arm strength.Does anyone honestly think MM would pound in Ryan's head to not throw it deep? Come on now, stop making excuses for this below average QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zodiac Posted September 13, 2010 Author Share Posted September 13, 2010 I'm starting to think it isn't Mularky choosing to shoot downfield. We saw Redman go deep quite a few times in his couple of starts last season. Ryan seems to try and play it safe more.No the thing is if you look at the routes hardly any of them go deep, they let redman go deep cause he's the back up and well.. he isn't exactly as good as ryan as picking apart the D so might as well let him go deep and try to get some yards.2/3 20 Yarders came when ryan was running the offense, it's pretty simple MM needs to he and his mother teresa like playcalling are hurting this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pay the Zebra Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Hate to break it to the homers here but Ryan has the control to make a read and throw it deep. Ryan plays scared, his accuracy over 15yrds is awful coupled with Chad Pennington arm strength.Does anyone honestly think MM would pound in Ryan's head to not throw it deep? Come on now, stop making excuses for this below average QB.TSRH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostofdonkey Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 they let redman go deep cause he's the back up and well.. he isn't exactly as good as ryan as picking apart the D so might as well let him go deep and try to get some yards.that is one of the weakest excuses I have ever heard on a MB ever in life. say that back to yourself over and over again, slowly, then walk away from the computer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zodiac Posted September 13, 2010 Author Share Posted September 13, 2010 Hate to break it to the homers here but Ryan has the control to make a read and throw it deep. Ryan plays scared, his accuracy over 15yrds is awful coupled with Chad Pennington arm strength.Does anyone honestly think MM would pound in Ryan's head to not throw it deep? Come on now, stop making excuses for this below average QB.... Ryan is not afraid to throw down field most of those overshots are just him throwing it away, When Ryan knows he needs to take a shot downfield he'll take it, Jenkins against the bears, Jenkins against the Giants last year though he dropped it. HD twice today. The thing is Mularkey doesn't call in plays that have routes deep enough for him to go downfield when he needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconinPA Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 that is one of the weakest excuses I have ever heard on a MB ever in life. say that back to yourself over and over again, slowly, then walk away from the computer.never thought that I would say this but I totally agree with you ghostofdonkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zodiac Posted September 13, 2010 Author Share Posted September 13, 2010 that is one of the weakest excuses I have ever heard on a MB ever in life. say that back to yourself over and over again, slowly, then walk away from the computer.That's the real reason, I played football for 11 years, and the general consensus when your starting QB goes down is to have the backup go deep and try to get something big going to get the offense rolling. Dixon did it several times today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 If Turner can't run we need to create yards out of somewhere. No one seemed to get open, except Roddy. Douglas couldn't out run a LB and Gonzo just disappeared. I guess all he wanted was 1000 and then he was done. Do we really need Jenks? Seems like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporkdevil Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Hate to break it to the homers here but Ryan has the control to make a read and throw it deep. Ryan plays scared, his accuracy over 15yrds is awful coupled with Chad Pennington arm strength.Does anyone honestly think MM would pound in Ryan's head to not throw it deep? Come on now, stop making excuses for this below average QB.Well, yeah, because it happened in Pitt when MM was the OC their too. There was some article that brings up everything we have been complaining about for years. A lot of it is the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostofdonkey Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 That's the real reason, I played football for 11 years, and the general consensus when your starting QB goes down is to have the backup go deep and try to get something big going to get the offense rolling. Dixon did it several times today.If in fact you did play football for 11 years then that excuse is worse than originally thought. You're telling me that the coaches "let" Redman throw deep because he's the back up but tell Ryan to not throw deep because he's the starter? Wow, just.....thought I....wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremedarius Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Well, yeah, because it happened in Pitt when MM was the OC their too. There was some article that brings up everything we have been complaining about for years. A lot of it is the system.I have been trying to find that article for a few months now..Well, yeah, because it happened in Pitt when MM was the OC their too. There was some article that brings up everything we have been complaining about for years. A lot of it is the system.I have been trying to find that article for a few months now.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilleniumFalcon Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Ryan as a rookie was fearless, there was numerous times where he would throw a pinpoint pass in a small window without hesitation. The past season and this past game, we haven't seen that. I don't know why but Ryan seems to be a bit tentative now. Play calling is also way too conservative, I was expecting an explosive offense that's exciting... not this ho hum vanilla predictable methodical stuff. It's just one game but so far it's the same ol' Falcons, I hope that isn't the case next week and the rest of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremedarius Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Well, yeah, because it happened in Pitt when MM was the OC their too. There was some article that brings up everything we have been complaining about for years. A lot of it is the system.Here is the article...I THINKhttp://bleacherreport.com/articles/25493-mike-mularkey-is-not-the-answer-for-atlanta-falconsMike Mularkey Is Not the Answer for Atlanta FalconsOriginally touted as an offensive genius at the beginning of this decade, Mike Mularkey has rightfully lost that moniker and is approaching "bust" status as a coach. By examining his track record one thing becomes clear. If past events predict future results, the Atlanta Falcons are in trouble offensively.Mike Mularkey first became offensive coordinator in 2001 for the Pittsburgh Steelers. He was promoted from tights ends coach and replaced Kevin Gilbride and had his best statistical year as a coach. The Pittsburgh Steelers were ranked 3rd offensively in his first year as offensive coordinator and made the playoffs. They were ranked 18th the previous year. The following year, 2002, the Steelers were still excellent offensively, but slipped a bit to 5th. In 2003, the Steelers entered a free fall offensively and dropped all the way to 22nd, missing the playoffs. Mularkey began to be characterized as a coach that used predictable formations and was way too quick to abandon the run. He became reliant on the gimmick or trick play as opposed to sound play calling. Mularkey still had a great deal of buzz and was touted as one of the up and coming new coaches in spite of the Pittsburgh offensive rankings and not making the playoffs in 2003. He used that buzz to land the head coaching job in Buffalo, with the Bills. He replaced the fired Gregg Williams, after Williams posted back-to-back 5-11 seasons. His first year as coach in 2004, the Bills after an 0-4 start, reeled off six straight wins and finished just out of the playoffs at 9-7 after getting beat by Mularkey’s former team, the Pittsburgh Steelers back ups in week 17. The offense for the year ended up ranked 25th up from the previous years ranking of 30th. The offensive coordinator the year before Mularkey got there? Kevin Gilbride.So, in the two instances in his career where Mularkey raised an offense's ranking statistically, it was done in his first year as coach and he was replacing Gilbride both times. In 2005, the Bills dropped offensively from 25th to 28th and his handling and development of JP Losman as the quarterback to replace Drew Bledsoe is laughable at best. Ask any Bills fan about how they feel about the job Mularkey did with Losman, and you will get an answer that will most likely force you to ask small children to leave the room to spare them the obscenity laced tirade. Mularkey waffled back and forth and sat Losman in favor of journeyman Kelly Holcomb. Citing differences with the direction of the Bills after team President and General Manager, Tom Donahoe was fired, Mularkey quit the Bills before the start of 2006 season.In 2006, Mularkey landed in Miami as offensive coordinator and the Dolphins promptly dropped from 14th to 20th in offensive rankings. Mularkey did not have the luxury of replacing Kevin Gilbride to inflate his first year numbers. He was then demoted to tight ends coach in 2007 before being fired at the end of the season.For the 2008 season, Mularkey has been tapped as the offensive coordinator in Atlanta. Entering a team in disarray for the third time in a row, a team in Atlanta that has not enjoyed back to back winning seasons in its history, Mike Mularkey does not bode well for Falcons fans to reverse that trend. His first example of success, in Pittsburgh, can be attributed in large part to the stability of the organization, stability of the coaching staff, and the offensive coordinator he replaced as opposed to his measure of ability to game plan successfully. In Buffalo, his pattern of success is very similar, a brief one year rise followed by a precipitous fall after replacing Kevin Gilbride. His time in Miami can be only characterized as a disaster at best. One of the marks of an effective coach is the ability to say yes to the question, “Did you leave the situation in better shape than when you found it?” In each case of his head coaching or offensive coordinator stops Mike Mularkey cannot say "yes" to that question.Simply put, Mularkey is not the answer for the Falcons. He has not demonstrated an ability to develop rookie quarterbacks and he has never developed the team around him to be better consistently for more than one season. He has never improved a team offensively from year one to year two. So, Atlanta fans may find themselves doing better this year offensively, and after the debacle of Bobby Petrino it is hard to imagine them worse, only to begin to regress again in 2009. That is, if he doesn’t follow the pattern of his last stop in Miami where the offense got instantly worse. Who was his starting quarterback in Miami? Joey Harrington, the same quarterback as in Atlanta. Perhaps Mularkey will learn from his past mistakes and get something out of Joey Harrington and not develop Matt Ryan like he did JP Losman, because right now things are looking eerily similar to his past situations and that does not bode well long-term for Falcons fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstammer Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 WoW! And someone in Atlanta thought he'd be a great hire. Oh boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 I don't know about you guys but we have to quit playing this conservatively, Ryan managed the game and looked great except on that 1 pic which was a **** good design by the Steelers. The 3 Drives where they let Ryan call the plays from the huddle were the best. Mularkey is obviously way to passive to make this offense work. We have all the weapons to score 30+ points a game but mularkey seems to want to do limited war and not use any of it.We really need a back-up C that can handle a 3-4 nose guard McClure is just not made out for it. I would suggest drafting Ben Jones this year if he comes out early or next year He's 6'3 and 300 LBs a much better match up against a NT.Our D looks great, but we really should've had like 4 INts we had 3 slip out of hands Abe, Owens, and Davis.We need to work on containing the long yardage plays and stop putting out that **** prevent defense, you know what they say about PRevent Defense, the only thing it does is prevent your own team from winning.TL:DR we need to stop with the Mother Teresa like playcalling, find a C that can handle a noseguard and Stop playing that ******** prevent defense.This is the first time I have ever agreed with you Zodiac but you are 100% correct on these points! Mularkey has to go. It's not a bit surprising that our best offense the last 3 years is when we run the no-huddle and Matt is calling the plays.I mean the Steelers are a perfect example of how horrible Mularkey is. How many SB's did they win with him as OC? Zero! How many have they won since he left? 2! Bingo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardenmj Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Ryan needs to show he can make his way through his progressions. roddy was targeted 23 times which is an absurd amount...throwing every ball to roddy on the same play and you knew it was only a matter of time before polamalu or someone else was going to get their hands on it...im not gonna put blame on one person or one facet of the game but the whole offense needs to get better from the run game and through the air to the play-calling. they should be winning games when a defense goes 60 minutes and doesn't surrender a touchdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm_falcons Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 (edited) if the goal is too win the division...a division that includes the current champs...then I agree that there is a lack of aggressiveness on offense. Also...This thread needs to be bumped and repeated.But...if we are happy with a 9-7 or possibly a 10-6 wc team...then we should be more supportive and less negative and critical. Let Ryan be Ryan and maybe he'll reach a comfort zone whereby he can take more shots down the field in a few more years. For me...I see way too much potential with this team and I think they can win this division. So...the critical comments are all warranted imo.Good thread. Edited September 13, 2010 by jm_falcons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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