Saban takes a shot at Boise State's worthiness as a BCS title contender.

[SacFalcFan]

TUSCALOOSA - On his radio show Thursday night, Alabama coach Nick Saban took a shot at Boise State, which might have moved into BCS national championship contention with its 33-30 victory Monday over Virginia Tech.

He noted that Alabama defeated Virginia Tech in its 2009 opener and defeated "six other teams that were the caliber of Virginia Tech, or maybe better. And maybe more than that if you throw in Texas and Florida in the SEC Championship Game. ..."

"It's the full body of work. It's not just that you can beat one team, but if you have to beat six or seven other teams and have to play with consistency to do it, I think that goes a long way in saying a lot about what kind of football team that you have. And that's no disrespect that you have, because they may certainly be able to do the same thing if they were put in that circumstance."

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[octdawg]

TUSCALOOSA - On his radio show Thursday night, Alabama coach Nick Saban took a shot at Boise State, which might have moved into BCS national championship contention with its 33-30 victory Monday over Virginia Tech.

He noted that Alabama defeated Virginia Tech in its 2009 opener and defeated "six other teams that were the caliber of Virginia Tech, or maybe better. And maybe more than that if you throw in Texas and Florida in the SEC Championship Game. ..."

"It's the full body of work. It's not just that you can beat one team, but if you have to beat six or seven other teams and have to play with consistency to do it, I think that goes a long way in saying a lot about what kind of football team that you have. And that's no disrespect that you have, because they may certainly be able to do the same thing if they were put in that circumstance."

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I hate him but I love him. Definitely a good point. I just don't understand how they can be considered for a national championship when teams all over the country face much better teams week in and week out. I almost hope they make it to the title game this year and get it handed to them...

[Andrew]

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[Andrew]

TUSCALOOSA - On his radio show Thursday night, Alabama coach Nick Saban took a shot at Boise State, which might have moved into BCS national championship contention with its 33-30 victory Monday over Virginia Tech.

He noted that Alabama defeated Virginia Tech in its 2009 opener and defeated "six other teams that were the caliber of Virginia Tech, or maybe better. And maybe more than that if you throw in Texas and Florida in the SEC Championship Game. ..."

"It's the full body of work. It's not just that you can beat one team, but if you have to beat six or seven other teams and have to play with consistency to do it, I think that goes a long way in saying a lot about what kind of football team that you have. And that's no disrespect that you have, because they may certainly be able to do the same thing if they were put in that circumstance."

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Yeah, but they've been consistently beating scrubs for years now. That has to count for something.

[RedandBlack4Life!]

Yeah, but they've been consistently beating scrubs for years now. That has to count for something.

well it must be nice to face nothing but scrubs week in and week out, and have everyone assume that you're going to blow out everyone you face in your conference, and basically be crowned the conference champion after only 1 week of football. Being able to consistently beat up scrubs does not entitle you to a shot at the championship. If they blow out everyone on their schedule this year, then let them play a bigger conference champion in one of the BCS bowls.

[Hatch]

Boise State needs to join the ACC and leave WAC, lets see how well they do now.

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[lex7500]

Boise State needs to join the ACC and leave WAC, lets see how well they do now.

10-2 every year and competing for the ACC crown probably...

[CrimsonFalcon]

well it must be nice to face nothing but scrubs week in and week out, and have everyone assume that you're going to blow out everyone you face in your conference, and basically be crowned the conference champion after only 1 week of football. Being able to consistently beat up scrubs does not entitle you to a shot at the championship. If they blow out everyone on their schedule this year, then let them play a bigger conference champion in one of the BCS bowls.

They did...and did win. I know that it's been a couple years since the Fiesta Bowl game against Oklahoma, but they stepped up and defeated a perennial National Championship contender. And correct me if I'm wrong but weren't they successful last year in a BCS bowl as well?

[Andrew]

They did...and did win. I know that it's been a couple years since the Fiesta Bowl game against Oklahoma, but they stepped up and defeated a perennial National Championship contender. And correct me if I'm wrong but weren't they successful last year in a BCS bowl as well?

Refer to the original post in this thread.

[Gritzblitz 2.0]

10-2 every year and competing for the ACC crown probably...

Pretty close actually. On a neutral field, they would be a favorite over any ACC team. Though I think that GT matches up very well against them.

For all of you saying "Boise should join a better conference", I sure that Boise would agree with you. The problem is that it isn't as easy as calling up a conference and saying "We're joining the ACC/Big 10/Big 12/Pac 10". They have to be invited and so far none of the big conferences want anything to do with them.

In the meantime, they are doing all they can to play a tough out of conference schedule because of their weak conference. Miami did much of the same when they were winning NCs in a weak Big East conference and no one complained about their "body of work" because they usually handled their business in those OOC games and in the big bowl games. I have no problem if Boise does the same.

[VTCrunkler]

Saban is saying that because he knows that if Boise St. goes undefeated they have a great shot at getting the the nat'l title game. i do agree with his point, its one thing to beat one good team, but to do it 6 7 times in a year is hard to do.

[USAF HART]

They did...and did win. I know that it's been a couple years since the Fiesta Bowl game against Oklahoma, but they stepped up and defeated a perennial National Championship contender. And correct me if I'm wrong but weren't they successful last year in a BCS bowl as well?

It took two gimmick plays to beat Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl. Last year, they faced TCU, who like Boise State is a mid-major college football program looking for national recognition in hopes of being thurst into the national title picture. Last time a team from the WAC played a true power house team in a BCS game, they got walked all over (UGA vs Hawaii). Just sayin'

[Gritzblitz 2.0]

It took two gimmick plays to beat Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl. Last year, they faced TCU, who like Boise State is a mid-major college football program looking for national recognition in hopes of being thurst into the national title picture. Last time a team from the WAC played a true power house team in a BCS game, they got walked all over (UGA vs Hawaii). Just sayin'

Boise isn't Hawaii no matter how much you want to lump them together.

Once upon a time, Florida State was a "mid-major". But they built a program, scheduled tough games, and took care of business when they got their shot at the big boys. Why can't Boise do the same?

[QCDawg]

Saban said it because he knows that it's possible that bama may lose a game this year, and that sometimes getting into the NC game is a beauty contest(refer to LSU over UGA 2006). He figures that if he dirties cindarella's dress as she's leaving the house, she won't look as pretty all night. Especially at the end when the prince makes his choices for the big ball. He's planning ahead, and laying groundwork for that scenario. Just like he did with agentgate. He doesn't want an undefeated boise state to get to play OSU in the NC over a one loss UA. The guys not stupid. If that happens and he says this, it just sounds like sour grapes.

[Bryant Denny]

Saban was asked his opinion on the subject and he gave it ......period. He just stated what most already know...that while Boise State is good and very well coached they could never make it through the grind of an SEC schedule or any of the stronger conferences IMO. It is one thing to win a big game here and there but to do it throughout a season takes depth and size that they simply don't have. That team would be a skeleton of itself by the years end if it played in the SEC.

[SacFalcFan]

Saban was asked his opinion on the subject and he gave it ......period. He just stated what most already know...that while Boise State is good and very well coached they could never make it through the grind of an SEC schedule or any of the stronger conferences IMO. It is one thing to win a big game here and there but to do it throughout a season takes depth and size that they simply don't have. That team would be a skeleton of itself by the years end if it played in the SEC.

yep and saban is 100% correct here..

[Carter]

Saban makes the great and obvious point here. Playing a tough schedule counts for a lot. Especially if you emerge from that schedule with one or no losses... heck even two can be enough given the right circumstances.

I certainly give more credit to the SEC or ACC champs than I do the WAC champs, but on the same token I believe Boise State is a legitimately good football program. I don't think that they are a bad team simply by virtue of the fact that they dominate the WAC. As others have pointed out, this is how Miami and Florida State both built their programs into national powerhouses.

If Boise beats Oregon State then they will have all the ammunition they need in the media to win their way into the national title game. I'm not flat out opposed to it happening, but I don't think they would be the most deserving team. They can't play a tougher schedule because they can't just hop into a tougher conference. They can't schedule very many top teams because they can't return the money on travel expense to play in Boise and there are teams who just aren't interested in playing them.

A lot of people are going to feel cheated if their big time team is sitting with one loss and undefeated Boise State that played two hard games all season gets in ahead of them. This season I think it's only a matter of time before Bama and Ohio State both take a loss... and that is going to catapult Boise State to being the #2 and then #1 team in the country... and I'm sorry, I respect Boise State for what they are putting together as a program, but they are not in any way the #1 team in the country under any circumstance. At best they should be ranked in the mid-teens right now, with VT maybe one spot below them.

I would be interested in seeing Boise State in the title game, I won't lie... I would watch the game from kickoff to the final tick. But I really can't stress enough how strongly I feel that they should be selected for the Sugar Bowl before they get a chance at the national title. They are not a proven team and despite them winning the big games they have been able to schedule, they still need to cut their teeth on some top flight bowl games. If they had played Florida last year or Georgia Tech or Iowa and won, I feel they would be more deserving of a shot this year.

[QCDawg]

If Boise State plays Ohio State in the NC, who would you pick and the score? And what SEC ranked and up school (ie #3 SEC team and up)would you think it would take to make you feel comfortable the SEC would win vs. BSU in a bowl game.

[eddiesauto]

I don't disagree with anything that Saban said. It should take wins over multiple quality opponents to win championships.

Ironically enough, his team struggled more with Tennessee and Auburn more than they did against Florida and Texas...

[pr0d1gy]

Saban said it because he knows that it's possible that bama may lose a game this year, and that sometimes getting into the NC game is a beauty contest(refer to LSU over UGA 2006). He figures that if he dirties cindarella's dress as she's leaving the house, she won't look as pretty all night. Especially at the end when the prince makes his choices for the big ball. He's planning ahead, and laying groundwork for that scenario. Just like he did with agentgate. He doesn't want an undefeated boise state to get to play OSU in the NC over a one loss UA. The guys not stupid. If that happens and he says this, it just sounds like sour grapes.

You can draw a direct line to Katrina when you speak about putting LSU in the National Championship that year. Nobody gets screwed like teams in Georgia get screwed.

[nativefalcon]

TUSCALOOSA - On his radio show Thursday night, Alabama coach Nick Saban took a shot at Boise State, which might have moved into BCS national championship contention with its 33-30 victory Monday over Virginia Tech.

He noted that Alabama defeated Virginia Tech in its 2009 opener and defeated "six other teams that were the caliber of Virginia Tech, or maybe better. And maybe more than that if you throw in Texas and Florida in the SEC Championship Game. ..."

"It's the full body of work. It's not just that you can beat one team, but if you have to beat six or seven other teams and have to play with consistency to do it, I think that goes a long way in saying a lot about what kind of football team that you have. And that's no disrespect that you have, because they may certainly be able to do the same thing if they were put in that circumstance."

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I saw that too on Game day, I think its BS, if Boise had to play say VT and their other hard game and a SEC game and a Pac 10 or Big 10 game, then they would be worthy, but if not they do not deserve it. I don't care if UGA, UF or Bama had a 11-1 record they deserve to play in the big dance more then Boise. Why I would hate to see Bama go 11-0 and play Boise and kick their teeth in on national TV to prove to the NCAA that their system is broken. There are other teams that have to go thru tons more He-ll then Boise does to get there.

[Gritzblitz 2.0]

Yeah, I would imagine that Saban is still smarting from that teabagging that a non-BCS team gave him in the Sugar Bowl a couple of years ago.

[Carter]

Yeah, I would imagine that Saban is still smarting from that teabagging that a non-BCS team gave him in the Sugar Bowl a couple of years ago.

But that doesn't matter because if they played 9 more times, Bama would win!1!!!11!1one!1