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Our trade Additions this year have done diddly squat ....NOTHING


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Gonzalez hasnt done much, a few key hits and some HUGE errors.. Aniel has been close to garbage other than a couple of catches and 1 big hit.. Derek Lee.. Nada.. Nothin.. Zilch.. they get a big fat zero...

I was just saying this yesterday. I'm not down on Gonzalez, but definitely down on everyone else that we traded for this year. It's just bad luck I guess.

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You get what you pay for.

Gonzo has had something like 25 RBIs since joining us, that's not awful.

I agree with you, like I said, I'm not down on Gonzalez. I completely understand that trade and glad he's here. I'm just not a fan of Ankiel, Lee, or Farnsworth since coming here.

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A bigger factor is Chipper Jones's injury. We lost 50 points of OPS going from Jones to Lee, even if Lee was hitting as well as he was in Chicago.

Wow good point, you know I never really thought of it that way. Looks like we were trying to bring in supplemental pieces to go with our core, and now those pieces are being counted on to play bigger roles which they can't.

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Wow good point, you know I never really thought of it that way. Looks like we were trying to bring in supplemental pieces to go with our core, and now those pieces are being counted on to play bigger roles which they can't.

Exactly. We've been managing so far, but we wouldn't have needed Ankiel if McLouth hadn't fallen apart. We wouldn't have traded for Lee if Jones hadn't gotten hurt. We wouldn't have traded for Gonzalez if Escobar hadn't had a sub-par first half. Guys like Melky Cabrera, Eric Hinkse, and Omar Infante have played much more than anticipated. In the case of Omar, that's been a good thing, but the Braves were lucky in that regard.

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Exactly. We've been managing so far, but we wouldn't have needed Ankiel if McLouth hadn't fallen apart. We wouldn't have traded for Lee if Jones hadn't gotten hurt. We wouldn't have traded for Gonzalez if Escobar hadn't had a sub-par first half. Guys like Melky Cabrera, Eric Hinkse, and Omar Infante have played much more than anticipated. In the case of Omar, that's been a good thing, but the Braves were lucky in that regard.

True. I'm pretty down about the Braves this year but I am happy for the future. We have some great prospects that should keep the Braves interesting for a while.

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Our trades have not panned out but most of them were based off of injuries or equally horrible performances. So it's bad luck they have not really worked out but you can't really blame the team for trying and on paper the choices weren't bad.

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I hate that Brooks Conrad has totally been pushed to the bench and hardly even gets anymore pinch-hit at-bats let along starts.

When Chipper first got hurt Conrad carried the Braves for the next week, week and a half and then Bobby throws him on the bench and totally forgets about him. No way Conrad was going to keep up that pace but I'd much rather have Conrad and Infante in the lineup than Cabrera and AnKiel anyday!

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I don't get the Gonzalez hate. Escobar would not be doing anything for us right now at all. Guy needed a serious wakeup call and got one.

Escobar wouldn't have made the defensive lapses we've seen from Gonzalez. And he'd likely be performing more in line with the 4 seasons prior to this year than that 3 months he was with the team in 2010.

Not to mention he's only 27 and under team control for three more seasons, while Gonzalez is a 33 year old journeyman.

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Escobar wouldn't have made the defensive lapses we've seen from Gonzalez. And he'd likely be performing more in line with the 4 seasons prior to this year than that 3 months he was with the team in 2010.

Not to mention he's only 27 and under team control for three more seasons, while Gonzalez is a 33 year old journeyman.

Alex Gonzalez for Yunel Escobar: On post-deal numbers, this is a near-wash. With Toronto, Escobar is hitting .286 with four homers, 13 RBIs and an on-base percentage of .345. As a Brave, Gonzalez has hit .263 with four homers, 25 RBIs and an OBP of .307. But the Braves didn’t make this trade because of talent. (Escobar is clearly more gifted.) They did it because they didn’t trust him to be their shortstop in a pennant race.

Here’s the catch, so to speak: Gonzalez has made eight errors in 49 games as a Brave; for all his excesses, Escobar made nine in 74 games before the trade. (He has made six since.) Bottom line: The Braves added a bit more pop to their lineup, but Gonzalez hasn’t quite been the stabilizing infield force they envisioned.

really not much difference offensive or defensive. I consider this trade a wash with the Braves getting the temporary edge just due to locker room attitude

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really not much difference offensive or defensive. I consider this trade a wash with the Braves getting the temporary edge just due to locker room attitude

It's not a wash because of their age differences and potential upside. Let's talk about this again in five years or so.

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really not much difference offensive or defensive. I consider this trade a wash with the Braves getting the temporary edge just due to locker room attitude

It's not a wash because of their age differences and potential upside. Let's talk about this again in five years or so.

as why I said temporary. You are taking the long term approach while you could (most likely) correct, but in the short term it is a wash.

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