pencilpusher. just because Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 I picked up the album four green fields at the goodwill store because I am a fan of all types of folk music. No one does heartbreak like the Irish and this song is about as sad as it gets,opening with a poem by Seamus Heaney which was about an Irish rebellion that did not end well. it took me several listenings to realize that the barley that " grew up out of ( their) graves was the Barley they had in their coat pockets to eat , and it grew after they were "Buried without shroud or coffin" The line " terraced, thousands died shaking scythes at cannon" really stands out to me. The pockets of our greatcoats full of barley...No kitchens on the run, no striking camp...We moved quick and sudden in our own country.The priest lay behind ditches with the tramp.A people hardly marching... on the hike...We found new tactics happening each day: We'd cut through reins and rider with the pikeAnd stampede cattle into infantry, Then retreat through hedges where cavalry must be thrown.Until... on Vinegar Hill... the final conclave.Terraced thousands died, shaking scythes at cannon.The hillside blushed, soaked in our broken wave.They buried us without shroud or coffinAnd in August... the barley grew up out of our grave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethanga62890 Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Brenda's got a baby./thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayOzOne Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Have you seen "The Wind That Shakes The Barley"? Excellent flick about the conflict in Northern Ireland and the roots of the IRA. You kind of know from the giddyup that it's not going to end well (because it really hasn't ended). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pencilpusher. just because Posted September 7, 2010 Author Share Posted September 7, 2010 Have you seen "The Wind That Shakes The Barley"? Excellent flick about the conflict in Northern Ireland and the roots of the IRA. You kind of know from the giddyup that it's not going to end well (because it really hasn't ended).Haven't seen it, plan to soon. Man it has to rough living where theres almost constant war or on the verge of war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayOzOne Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 This song is 200 years old but was anthemic for the struggle in the early 20th century. I'd put it up against yours as a truly sad folk song. What's up with those freaking Irish, anyway? The Wind That Shakes The Barleyby Robert Dwyer JoyceI sat within a valley greenI sat me with my true loveMy sad heart strove to choose betweenThe old love and the new loveThe old for her, the new that madeMe think on Ireland dearlyWhile soft the wind blew down the gladeAnd shook the golden barleyTwas hard the woeful words to frameTo break the ties that bound usBut harder still to bear the shameOf foreign chains around usAnd so I said, "The mountain glenI'll seek at morning earlyAnd join the bold United MenWhile soft winds shake the barley"While sad I kissed away her tearsMy fond arms 'round her flingingThe foeman's shot burst on our earsFrom out the wildwood ringingA bullet pierced my true love's sideIn life's young spring so earlyAnd on my breast in blood she diedWhile soft winds shook the barleyI bore her to some mountain PIRATED VIDEO IS ILLEGALAnd many's the summer blossomI placed with branches soft and greenAbout her gore-stained bosomI wept and kissed her clay-cold corpseThen rushed o'er vale and valleyMy vengeance on the foe to wreakWhile soft winds shook the barleyBut blood for blood without remorseI've taken at Oulart HollowAnd laid my true love's clay-cold corpseWhere I full soon may followAs 'round her grave I wander drearNoon, night and morning earlyWith breaking heart when e'er I hearThe wind that shakes the barley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pencilpusher. just because Posted September 7, 2010 Author Share Posted September 7, 2010 Yea, those Irish can write some sad stuff man. I just have been Immersing myself in a lot of folk music lately because i want to get my songwriting chops back up and work on my awful singing. :P I have a couple of songs I started with lyrics and I'm stuck so I am trying to jar the muse out of sleep. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-train Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Yea, those Irish can write some sad stuff man. I just have been Immersing myself in a lot of folk music lately because i want to get my songwriting chops back up and work on my awful singing. :P I have a couple of songs I started with lyrics and I'm stuck so I am trying to jar the muse out of sleep. :PYou ever listen to Gary Higgins or Bonnie Dobson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pencilpusher. just because Posted September 7, 2010 Author Share Posted September 7, 2010 You ever listen to Gary Higgins or Bonnie Dobson?Never heard of either, I will have to check them out.After recently finding a Dave Van Ronk album, I find it hard to believe I had not heard of him either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pencilpusher. just because Posted September 7, 2010 Author Share Posted September 7, 2010 Been listening to a lot of Townes Van Zant lately, too, another guy that was appreciated after he died. Awesome songwriter but he just didn't have the voice to be more well known except by other musicians it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xnex Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 My knowledge of folk music is certainly LIMITED. However there are a couple of sad songs that I really like quite a bit. The first one below does qualify as folk music, I think. The second one is just a really good song from a great (and underappreciated) American singer/songwriter I've always liked this one. Not nearly as huge in numbers on the "suffering scale" however, it's still good stuff.Gordon Lightfoot- The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald The legend lives on from the Chippewa on downOf the big lake they call Gitche GumeeThe lake, it is said, never gives up her deadWhen the skies of November turn gloomy.With a load of iron ore - 26,000 tons moreThan the Edmund Fitzgerald weighed emptyThat good ship and true was a bone to be chewedWhen the gales of November came earlyThe ship was the pride of the American sideComing back from some mill in WisconsinAs the big freighters go it was bigger than mostWith a crew and the Captain well seasoned.Concluding some terms with a couple of steel firmsWhen they left fully loaded for ClevelandAnd later that night when the ships bell rangCould it be the North Wind they'd been feeling.The wind in the wires made a tattletale soundAnd a wave broke over the railingAnd every man knew, as the Captain did, too,T'was the witch of November come stealing.The dawn came late and the breakfast had to waitWhen the gales of November came slashingWhen afternoon came it was freezing rainIn the face of a hurricane West WindWhen supper time came the old cook came on deckSaying fellows it's too rough to feed yaAt 7PM a main hatchway caved inHe said fellas it's been good to know ya.The Captain wired in he had water coming inAnd the good ship and crew was in perilAnd later that night when his lights went out of sightCame the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald.Does anyone know where the love of God goesWhen the waves turn the minutes to hoursThe searchers all say they'd have made Whitefish BayIf they'd put fifteen more miles behind her.They might have split up or they might have capsizedThey may have broke deep and took waterAnd all that remains is the faces and the namesOf the wives and the sons and the daughters.Lake Huron rolls, Superior singsIn the ruins of her ice water mansionOld Michigan steams like a young man's dreams,The islands and bays are for sportsmen.And farther below Lake OntarioTakes in what Lake Erie can send herAnd the iron boats go as the mariners all knowWith the gales of November remembered.In a musty old hall in Detroit they prayedIn the Maritime Sailors' CathedralThe church bell chimed, 'til it rang 29 timesFor each man on the Edmund Fitzgerald.The legend lives on from the Chippewa on downOf the big lake they call Gitche GumeeSuperior, they say, never gives up her deadWhen the gales of November come early.And then there's the calssic "failed love" type of songs that cover personal suffering.Bob Seger: Famous Final SceneThink in terms of bridges burnedThink of seasons that must endSee the rivers rise and fallThey will rise and fall againEverything must have an endLike an ocean to a shoreLike a river to a S T R E A MLike a river to a S T R E A MIt's the famous final sceneAnd how you tried to make it workDid you really think it couldHow you tried to make it lastDid you really think it wouldLike a guest who stayed too longNow it's finally time to leaveYes, it's finally time to leaveTake it calmly and sereneIt's the famous final sceneIt's been coming on so longYou were just the last to knowIt's been a long time since you've smiledSeems like oh so long agoNow the stage has all been setAnd the nights are growing coldSoon the winter will be hereAnd there's no one warm to holdNow the lines have all been readAnd you knew them all by heartNow you move toward the doorHere it comes the hardest partTry the handle of the roadFeeling different feeling strangeThis can never be arrangedAs the light fades from the screenFrom the famous final scene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pencilpusher. just because Posted September 7, 2010 Author Share Posted September 7, 2010 "Does anyone know where the love of God goesWhen the waves turn the minutes to hours" That's one of my favorite lines ever. Listening to that song it sounds like an old old story, but the accident only happened in 1975. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-train Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 Been listening to a lot of Townes Van Zant lately, too, another guy that was appreciated after he died. Awesome songwriter but he just didn't have the voice to be more well known except by other musicians it seems.Our Drummer is a big Townes Van Zant fan. He put a bunch on my itunes, but I haven't had time to give in a fair listen yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebFalc Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 This video/song is pretty sad. Guess it kinda hits me because i was in high school when it happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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