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  1. 1. When will we sign a WR?

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Dont know about when, but we need to address the position..we got a #2 playing as a 1(Roddy), and a #3 playing as a 2 (Jenkins)...Douglas CAN be a good 2, but thats a major injury he's coming off of, Finneran is also coming off a major injury...I HOPE we go get a true #1 (Vincent Jackson), if not we need another #2 to supplement.

You lost any credibilty you may or may not have had... Roddy is an underrated stud, and he has the stats to back it up. I suggest you head to nfl.com and check him out a bit...

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Dont know about when, but we need to address the position..we got a #2 playing as a 1(Roddy), and a #3 playing as a 2 (Jenkins)...Douglas CAN be a good 2, but thats a major injury he's coming off of, Finneran is also coming off a major injury...I HOPE we go get a true #1 (Vincent Jackson), if not we need another #2 to supplement.

wow i cant believe u even said that, u realize the only ppl to have average as many catches or better, in yards are him, fitz, and the beast brandon marshall.... #2???? yea get real :angry:

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His stats are on the low end of #1s. The reason for that is he was Vicks main target (though Crump was right there), and Ryans favorite WR target as well...more plays are called for him than anyone else, BY FAR....The fact is we've had a thin WR corp ever since Roddy was drafted. That said, naturally most of the balls go his way.

I am a Fan of Roddy, but if youve watched the games, he has timely, BIG drops and still runs the wrong routes at ccritical times.

I know some of you folks here view anything short of blind worship as not being a "real" fan, but the fact is Roddy isnt a number 1 WR..he's a top tier #2.

You must be blind... It's not about blind worship, it's about knowing a #1 reciever when you see one...

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His stats are on the low end of #1s. The reason for that is he was Vicks main target (though Crump was right there), and Ryans favorite WR target as well...more plays are called for him than anyone else, BY FAR....The fact is we've had a thin WR corp ever since Roddy was drafted. That said, naturally most of the balls go his way.

I am a Fan of Roddy, but if youve watched the games, he has timely, BIG drops and still runs the wrong routes at ccritical times.

I know some of you folks here view anything short of blind worship as not being a "real" fan, but the fact is Roddy isnt a number 1 WR..he's a top tier #2.

Vick has nothing to do with it. Roddy didn't explode until after Vick was gone.

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I like your debate style. I put forth a subject, and you refute it with "uh uh, you dumb, he's great"..I hope you arent on the debate team.

I don't have to "debate" whether roddy is a #1 reciever or not. I told you exactly where to go to look up the stats.

And since you bring up dropped passes, here's a link to check that out too...

My link

Roddy didn't make the list, but a few other #1 recievers did... Andre Johnson, Randy Moss,TO, etc...

You may want to start watching soccer, football isn't your thing...

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That link doesnt give game situation, ie, when the drops happened. You can play hard here "Josh", but I grew up in Atl and have watched every Falcons game since 1978...Ive forgot more football than you will ever know, let alone Falcons football...On a positive note, looke like gazoo has his successor when he moves on.

What about situational stats for 2009 where he is shown to play better on the road and when we are behind. I know we throw more when we are behind, but still his number still go up. His highest yards per catch are when we are within 7 in the 4th quarter. I mean if that ain't clutch I can't think of what else you can look up to show.

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That link doesnt give game situation, ie, when the drops happened. You can play hard here "Josh", but I grew up in Atl and have watched every Falcons game since 1978...Ive forgot more football than you will ever know, let alone Falcons football...On a positive note, looke like gazoo has his successor when he moves on.

I'm not gazoo by any stretch of the imagination. If you know SOOOO much about football, then how can you possibly make the claim that Roddy is a #2? Seems like you've forgot a little TOO much about football...

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Look at the guys he's played with..Joe Horn, Mike Jenkins, Brian Finneran,Jerome Paython,Laurant Robinson, Adam Jennings..

Point being we have had a down right bad WR corp for awhile now..Roddy is really good, but he is prone to big drops. Thats just the facts, I dont have power over that.

i guess u forgot the other first round WR that leads our team in drops every year.... thats the dissapointment, more times then not if u throw roddy the ball he is goin to catch it, TO is a hall of famer and he has had drops in his WHOLE career.... plus the man has the right to drop a few when he is producing the way he has the last three years.... but i guess TD and the staff was just plain dumb for giving him that contract then huh????

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Dont know about when, but we need to address the position..we got a #2 playing as a 1(Roddy), and a #3 playing as a 2 (Jenkins)...Douglas CAN be a good 2, but thats a major injury he's coming off of, Finneran is also coming off a major injury...I HOPE we go get a true #1 (Vincent Jackson), if not we need another #2 to supplement.

We do have a weak receiver corps overall, however, Roddy is a number 1 on just about any team in the league, with only a few exceptions. The problem is, we have a #2 that should be a #4 or 5, and the talent drops off from there.

Douglass is a "wait and see", he has 23 career catches, and may not be the savior everyone seems to think he is. Roddy is the real deal, of that I have no doubts, but the position needs upgrading behind him in order for him to reach his full potential.I only played PopWarner and High school football,but I do know that personal performance tends to improve when your teammates are performing well. It's contagious, and Roddy is already playing well on his own. Just add someone else who can make plays and the potential is limitless for him IMHO.

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I have made my argument, whats the point of this post?

You've made absolutly no arguement. you keep referring to "his big drops", yet you haven't produced any stats, examples, facts, etc... On this board, we like statistics. They prove the point you are trying to convey. Try it sometime. Give me facts. You haven't because you can't. :lol:

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Dont know about when, but we need to address the position..we got a #2 playing as a 1(Roddy), and a #3 playing as a 2 (Jenkins)...Douglas CAN be a good 2, but thats a major injury he's coming off of, Finneran is also coming off a major injury...I HOPE we go get a true #1 (Vincent Jackson), if not we need another #2 to supplement.

White is a great #1 WR for a team the runs the ball first and plays ball control like we do. Granted he's no Jerry Rice, but those type come along once in a decade or 2.

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Bro, I knew there were alternate spellings, thats how I knew the one I picked worked.

I like you, Josh. Lets be friends. K?

I'm tryin to debate football and you're not. you gave an opinion, I gave facts. You gave another opinion, and you side-stepped. You went back to your first opinion, and I gave you links... Com' on man. All this talk of the glory days hasn't helped you at all. We're younger, smarter, and more witty than the generation before us...

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In my opinion their is no doubt R. White is a number 1 receiver, I hope you realize that when a team has a week receiving core like the falcons have in the past it makes it more difficult for a star receiver to shine, yes he may get alot more looks and balls throws his way but what do you think defenses are doing lets double team White and send some heat no one else on this team can do anything, but guess what amazingly White has been able to perform week in and out at a high level with the best of receivers in the NFL. Imagine if he had a solid number 2, that would only free him up more with less double teams coming his way his numbers would surely go up, White is a perennial talent and currently one of the top 5 receivers in the league, he is extremely clutch and more importantly versatile, he makes big plays deep, comes hard across the middle, has great footwork along the sidelines, is productive in the scree game, and is a decent enough blocker. The kid is an extraordinary TALENT and by no means is a number 2 receiver he is a top tier number 1 wide out. The only wideout who can for sure be considered better would be Andre johnson, larry fitz, Moss, reggie wayne, the next group of guys are equally as good marshall, calvin johnson, greg jennings, SO PLEASE STOP HATIN AND SHOW OUR BOY WHITE SOME LOVE

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See, thats the problem I have with this board. You say Im "hating" when nothing could be further from the truth. Roddy has been our best WR since 2006. Im thankful for him. For me to suggest he isnt a #1 does not mean I dont see his value. I just have seen other #1s be way more "clutch". Cut it up how you want, but bottom line is we need some talent at the top of our WR depth chart.

Are you really ok with Finneran (old, coming off injury, slow), Jenkins (slow, coming off injury). Douglas (coming off major injury), as our WR corp?

I can see your a true fan and I know ur not hating on White but I think your opinion of him is a bit lower then his actually value, yes he has made some big drops but each year he is getting better and is a true competitor and no doubt a top receiver in the league, as far as you saying our receiving core is weak you are 100% correct we have a very good number 1, an underachieving injured and low end number 2 in jenks, and our number 3 is unproven but could be potentially an excellent slot receiver in H.douglas, the rest of our receivers after that are very week in comparison to most cores in the league, so yes i agree with your point. But I do believe with White's consistent and excellent play, if jenks comes back and plays to his usually form with a bit less drops, and douglas can provide some big plays in the slot, then we should be okay especially with gonzo and wildwood who will also be major targets in the passing game. Believe me im all for an upgrade at wide out but only if we dont give up too much and the price is right

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See, thats the problem I have with this board. You say Im "hating" when nothing could be further from the truth. Roddy has been our best WR since 2006. Im thankful for him. For me to suggest he isnt a #1 does not mean I dont see his value. I just have seen other #1s be way more "clutch". Cut it up how you want, but bottom line is we need some talent at the top of our WR depth chart.

Are you really ok with Finneran (old, coming off injury, slow), Jenkins (slow, coming off injury). Douglas (coming off major injury), as our WR corp?

I can see your a true fan and I know ur not hating on White but I think your opinion of him is a bit lower then his actually value, yes he has made some big drops but each year he is getting better and is a true competitor and no doubt a top receiver in the league, as far as you saying our receiving core is weak you are 100% correct we have a very good number 1, an underachieving injured and low end number 2 in jenks, and our number 3 is unproven but could be potentially an excellent slot receiver in H.douglas, the rest of our receivers after that are very week in comparison to most cores in the league, so yes i agree with your point. But I do believe with White's consistent and excellent play, if jenks comes back and plays to his usually form with a bit less drops, and douglas can provide some big plays in the slot, then we should be okay especially with gonzo and wildwood who will also be major targets in the passing game. Believe me im all for an upgrade at wide out but only if we dont give up too much and the price is right

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Point taken sir, but just look at the pats..they have about the same run/pass ratio, and Moss/Welker put up real numbers..look at Andre Jonson, thats a number 1..look at Hines Ward, he isnt as phsyically gifted as Roddy but he doesnt drop passes..I could go on, but my basic point stands, Roddy is a top teir #2, not a #1.

Now you're comparing apples and oranges. First off the Pats have been in the Belechick system long than we have been in the Mularkey system. Second, I don't know the stats, but I bet the Pats are a more pass oriented team than we are.

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I can see your a true fan and I know ur not hating on White but I think your opinion of him is a bit lower then his actually value, yes he has made some big drops but each year he is getting better and is a true competitor and no doubt a top receiver in the league, as far as you saying our receiving core is weak you are 100% correct we have a very good number 1, an underachieving injured and low end number 2 in jenks, and our number 3 is unproven but could be potentially an excellent slot receiver in H.douglas, the rest of our receivers after that are very week in comparison to most cores in the league, so yes i agree with your point. But I do believe with White's consistent and excellent play, if jenks comes back and plays to his usually form with a bit less drops, and douglas can provide some big plays in the slot, then we should be okay especially with gonzo and wildwood who will also be major targets in the passing game. Believe me im all for an upgrade at wide out but only if we dont give up too much and the price is right

OH MY GOD! USE PERIODS!! JESUS CHRIST! lol

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