Tandy Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 His Words:Atlanta scored twice in the final 2:55 to take a 17-14 halftime, then got the ball on the second-half kickoff.Defensive tackle Darnell Dockett was the disruptive force on the crucial fumble.I just jumped the snap count, man, he said. I needed to make a play. We needed a spark. We were down and that was the play that turned this whole thing around.Dockett hit Turner just as Ryan was trying to hand off the ball. The ball bounced off Turners forearm and into the hands of Rolle, who raced to the end zone.Sorry if this has been shared on here before - I've never seen it. I just ran across it while looking at something else - and this just "JUMPED" out at me.Thought I would share.Since we have them the first home game of the season - I think I'll share this with our guys via twitter. What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harveybirdman Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 I figured they would change up the count after that but we didn't and they were in the backfield for the rest of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tax-Falcon Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 I figured they would change up the count after that but we didn't and they were in the backfield for the rest of the game.Yeah, I'm still baffled about that.Granted, some of the Cardinals players WERE offsides and it wasn't called, but they just set up shop in our backfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harveybirdman Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Yeah, I'm still baffled about that.Granted, some of the Cardinals players WERE offsides and it wasn't called, but they just set up shop in our backfield.And yet if Brooking could cover.... What might have been.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tax-Falcon Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 And yet if Brooking could cover.... What might have been....Homerism aside, I'm 100% certain the offense would've marched right down the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenB321 Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 I figured they would change up the count after that but we didn't and they were in the backfield for the rest of the game.I agree although I believe other Card players have said they had some kind of read on the snap although it may have been just us using the same count. Either way if you watched the game you could not help but wonder what was going on because the Cards were getting off the ball before our guys. I made it a point to watch the next game the Cards played and they did not get off the ball like they were doing with us. It is just a shame that our coaching staff let this happen and I also condemn the sports media in Atl. Not one media outlet whether TV, print or radio ever have questioned the Falcons coaching staff on this that I am aware of. It is just unacceptable that our coaching staff is so incompetent that they let something like this happen. The only thing that gets me angrier than thinking about this is the fact that McKay drafted Jamaal with the eighth pick without working him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Falcon Jedi Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Yea it was pretty clear that the entire Arizona D-Line were jumping the snap count. Ryan was doing something to give it away, and they picked up on it.What upset me the most is that Mike Mularkey or Bill Musgrave failed to realize that and make adjustments. I felt one of them should have gotten fired over that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenB321 Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Yea it was pretty clear that the entire Arizona D-Line were jumping the snap count. Ryan was doing something to give it away, and they picked up on it.What upset me the most is that Mike Mularkey or Bill Musgrave failed to realize that and make adjustments. I felt one of them should have gotten fired over that.Jedi, I totally agree but the silence in the Atlanta media and on the Falcons MB about this unacceptable negligence on the Falcons coaching staff is deafening. I mean this was a freakin playoff game. I saw, you saw, we all saw it. How the heck did they not correct this problem. I starting to get really pissed again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Falcon Jedi Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Jedi, I totally agree but the silence in the Atlanta media and on the Falcons MB about this unacceptable negligence on the Falcons coaching staff is deafening. I mean this was a freakin playoff game. I saw, you saw, we all saw it. How the heck did they not correct this problem. I starting to get really pissed again. When Dockett broke into the backfield and took that handoff from Matt Ryan at the beginning of the 2nd half, that was very clear that something was wrong. Mularkey or Musgrave should have noticed that and made some kind of adjustment. That screw-up cost us that game, and getting to the Superbowl. Because had we beat Arizona, we would have killed Carolina the next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenB321 Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 (edited) When Dockett broke into the backfield and took that handoff from Matt Ryan at the beginning of the 2nd half, that was very clear that something was wrong. Mularkey or Musgrave should have noticed that and made some kind of adjustment. That screw-up cost us that game, and getting to the Superbowl. Because had we beat Arizona, we would have killed Carolina the next week.Explain to me how they got a pass on that. Why hasn't the media even questioned Coach Smith about this because let's be clear he is in charge of the coaching staff. Even the MB which usually jumps on something like this remember Brooking and the 3rd down play. Brooking was castigated about that but except for me I can't remember anyone else going nuts about this. I know it's not your fault Jedi but I really, really, really, really don't get it. I think Tandy is still bothered by it though, that's why just started this thread. Edited September 4, 2010 by BenB321 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Falcon Jedi Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Explain to me how they got a pass on that. Why hasn't the media even questioned Coach Smith about this because let's be clear he is in charge of the coaching staff. Even the MB which usually jumps on something like this remember Brooking and the 3rd down play. Brooking was castigated about that but except for me I can't remember anyone else going nuts about this. I know it's not your fault Jedi but I really, really, really, really don't get it.I dont know, but some offensive coach should have gotten fired after that game, or reprimanded somehow. Ryan was a rookie, he didnt know any better. But his coaches should have caught that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Falcon Jedi Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Everybody on this message board saw that Arizona was jumping the count that game. I remember very clearly because I was posting here that game. It was very clear to everyone here watching that game that something fishy was happening.Why on earth Mularkey or Musgrave did not see what we all saw is beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyBirdSupabowl Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 So a coaching staff who helped a rebuilding team should be fired because we lost a playoff game on the road by a possession, nice logic there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vabchbirdlover Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Explain to me how they got a pass on that. Why hasn't the media even questioned Coach Smith about this because let's be clear he is in charge of the coaching staff. Even the MB which usually jumps on something like this remember Brooking and the 3rd down play. Brooking was castigated about that but except for me I can't remember anyone else going nuts about this. I know it's not your fault Jedi but I really, really, really, really don't get it. I think Tandy is still bothered by it though, that's why just started this thread.Believe I voiced my displeasure over that on numerous occasions, it still eats at me.Tell, read, whatever you call it, immediate in gm adjustments should have been made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Falcon Jedi Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 So a coaching staff who helped a rebuilding team should be fired because we lost a playoff game on the road by a possession, nice logic there.If we had beaten Arizona we would have went to the SB. Carolina stood no chance against us. And yes, people do tend to lose their jobs when they screw up in the Playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Falcon Jedi Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 So a coaching staff who helped a rebuilding team should be fired because we lost a playoff game on the road by a possession, nice logic there.If we had beaten Arizona we would have had a HOME Playoff game against Carolina. That game would have been over before it even started. We would have destroyed the Panthers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireDawg85 Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Come on Tandy! Why you gots to bring up the bad memories. I guess next thing your gonna do is post the police report on Eugine Robinson...Love ya Tandy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenB321 Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 So a coaching staff who helped a rebuilding team should be fired because we lost a playoff game on the road by a possession, nice logic there.So a coaching staff should not be held accountable for probably costing us a playoff game? So a coaching staff should not be held accountable because they fail to notice what every fan noticed watching on TV? So much for logic but I love your committment to mediocrity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenB321 Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Believe I voiced my displeasure over that on numerous occasions, it still eats at me.Tell, read, whatever you call it, immediate in gm adjustments should have been made.Believe me Brooking caught a lot more flak than the coaching staff got over their screwup. Also Brooking took responsiblity and owned up to his failure, as far as I know the Atlanta coaching staff has never said a word about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandy Posted September 4, 2010 Author Share Posted September 4, 2010 Come on Tandy! Why you gots to bring up the bad memories. I guess next thing your gonna do is post the police report on Eugine Robinson...Love ya Tandy!Oh, I don't know. It's just that they are the first home game for us - just a couple of weeks from now. I need to get the fire built up - thought I might forward that article to our players.We can't let them come into our house and pull any of that crap - and our players need to make sure it doesn't happen here.That's all. Yeah, it still eats me up, too.Frankly, they were jumping offsides all night long. I don't even know if it was something Ryan was doing. Coach Smith said they were in silent count because of the noise. I was at that game - and I'll tell you right now -- you couldn't hear the person next to you when that defense was on the field - you could scream at your neighbor there and they couldn't hear you. It was deafening. If they were getting the read - it was something visual and changing the snap count probably wouldn't help. Could have been Ryan, could have been the OL or it could have been the game clock. We were going on 1 all night. As far as that goes - I counted on video at least 5 snaps where they were offsides and it wasn't called. For all we know - they were just jumping the snap period - they sure weren't getting called on it.If they were reading something - it was not verbal. Not in that stadium, not on that night.WE need payback. We have a chance in 2 weeks. Even though it won't be a playoff game - we owe them suckas one!The best way to handle a defense like that - is to draw them offsides a few times - move down the field that way - make those guys honest. But, that is tremendously difficult if not impossible with the crowd noise that was there that night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 As much as they JUMPED us and murderized our Oline in general, the defense lost this game. They were awful. I'll never forget hearing Smitty miked up after the 3rd and 16 play saying "we gotta change the scheme". The offense scored enough to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Falcon Jedi Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 As much as they JUMPED us and murderized our Oline in general, the defense lost this game. They were awful. I'll never forget hearing Smitty miked up after the 3rd and 16 play saying "we gotta change the scheme". The offense scored enough to win.Keith Brooking memories. That is all he will be remembered for from me. And all his ankle tackles 7 yards downfield after somebody blew right by him and getting a tackle stat added to his statistics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
califalcfan Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Man, that 3rd and 16 play is agonizing. What could have been an epic comeback, gone. Pretty ironic that it was a 3rd and long play, and then a year later we were dead last in stopping 3rd down conversions. How we didn't add another pass rusher is still beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Falcon Jedi Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Man, that 3rd and 16 play is agonizing. What could have been an epic comeback, gone. Pretty ironic that it was a 3rd and long play, and then a year later we were dead last in stopping 3rd down conversions. How we didn't add another pass rusher is still beyond me.We didnt have a LB who could cover a TE. Now we have one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Falcon Jedi Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Brooking just played that completely stupid. Warner played him like a puppet with a fake to draw him in, which left the TE wide open. Brooking should have been ashamed of himself for biting on that, being a seasoned veteran. Warner made him look like an idiot at the most crucial point of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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