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By D. Orlando Ledbetter

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

MIAMI -- Falcons coach Mike Smith and his staff are near the end of the evaluation process.

The Falcons must trim their roster to 75 players by Tuesday. After the final exhibition game against Jacksonville on Thursday, they'll have to trim down to 53 by Saturday.

"In terms of sitting down and talking about it, we've had numerous personnel meetings," Smith said. "We talk almost daily about who had a good day and who had a bad day."

Before training camp started, Smith said this was the most talented group he had in his three seasons as the Falcons' head coach. Some of the hotly contested position battles are at cornerback, defensive tackle and the reserve spots along the offensive line.

"There are going to be some important decisions that we are going to have to make as an organization," Smith said. "You want to make sure that you put your best 53 guys out there."

Over the past two seasons, the Falcons have juggled their roster after making the initial cuts. Last season, cornerback Brian Williams was added. In 2008, they added tight end Justin Peelle two days after the 53-man roster cut-down and traded for cornerback Domonique Foxworth.

When making their decisions, Smith and his staff evaluate players on more than exhibition games. They use the "entire body of work" approach.

Here's a look at some of the decisions facing the Falcons: (Note: The number beside each position group is the number on the Falcons' roster at the end of last season. They had 26 players on offense, 23 on defense and 4 specialists.)

Quarterbacks (3)

This will be the second season this group is together. John Parker Wilson looked good against New England's reserves.

Locks: Matt Ryan, Chris Redman and Wilson.

Running backs (6)change to 5

It's not likely that they will keep six running backs. They had to keep Aaron Stecker active last season because Michael Turner and Jerious Norwood were hurt.

Locks: Norwood, Turner, Ovie Mughelli, Jason Snelling and Dan Klecko.

Long shots: Dimitri Nance and Antone Smith.

Wide receivers (5) change to 6

With Kerry Meier this will be an all-veteran group, with Troy Bergeron possibly making the team. Michael Jenkins is recovering nicely from his shoulder injury and could be back by the opener.

Locks: Jenkins, Roddy White, Harry Douglas, Brian Finneran and Eric Weems.

On the bubble: Bergeron.add him for now and watch wire

Long shots: Andy Strickland, Tim Buckley, Brandyn Harvey and Ryan Wolfe.

Injured reserve: Meier.

Tight ends (3)

Keith Zinger's hands have improved, and he has developed into a fine in-line blocker. Look for Michael Palmer to show up on the practice squad. The Parkview High grad has potential.

Locks: Peelle, Zinger and Tony Gonzalez.

Long shots: Palmer and Robbie Agnone.

Offensive line (8)Change to (10) and add Brett Romberg.

The Falcons wanted to build some depth behind the starters.

Locks: Todd McClure, Justin Blalock, Harvey Dahl, Sam Baker, Tyson Clabo, Will Svitek, Garrett Reynolds, Joe Hawley, and Mike Johnson.

On the bubble: Jose Valdez and Brett Romberg.

Long shots: Rob Bruggeman and Blake Schlueter.

Defensive line (9) change to 10

Trey Lewis has made it tough for the Falcons to cut him. He arguably has had the best preseason along the defensive line.

Locks: Lewis, John Abraham, Kroy Biermann, Lawrence Sidbury, Corey Peters, Chauncey Davis, Peria Jerry, Jonathan Babineaux, Jamaal Anderson.

On the bubble: Thomas Johnson and Vance Walker.

Long shots: Emmanuel Stephens and Maurice Lucas.

Linebackers (6)

It's just a matter of who is going to start for this group. Robert James' four-game suspension for violating the NFL's substance-abuse policy likely will cost him a roster spot.

Locks: Curtis Lofton, Mike Peterson, Stephen Nicholas, Sean Weatherspoon, Coy Wire and Spencer Adkins.

Long shots: James, Weston Johnson and Bear Woods.

Defensive backs (8)

Brent Grimes and Christopher Owens have received some valuable repetitions as Dunta Robinson recovers from his hamstring injury. Look for Owens to show up as the nickel back.

William Moore played well Friday against Miami in his only action of the preseason.

"It was a feeling that I've been waiting on for a long time," Moore said of his first tackle against the Dolphins. "I actually didn't feel too nervous because I was prepared. I felt like I went out there and had a good day."

Locks: Grimes, Owens, Robinson, Moore, Chevis Jackson, Dominique Franks, Erik Coleman, Shann Schillinger and Thomas DeCoud.

On the bubble: Williams and Matt Giordano.

Long shots: Rafael Bush, Dominique Daniels and Eric Brock.

Specialists (4) change to (3)

Matt Bryant beat out Steven Hauschka for the place-kicking duties.

Locks: Bryant, Michael Koenen and Joe Zelenka.

I believe B.Williams makes it over both Chevis Jackson and Matt Giordano.

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I honestly don't think they'd like to give up either of the top 6 corners and we kept 6 last season. Chevis is a young player and has struggled this preseason but he knows the system and could be a serviceable backup and dimeback. He clearly doesn't belong on the outside anymore. I hate to admit that because I really like the guy and think in the right system he could play outside. But it's not ours.

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I honestly don't think they'd like to give up either of the top 6 corners and we kept 6 last season. Chevis is a young player and has struggled this preseason but he knows the system and could be a serviceable backup and dimeback. He clearly doesn't belong on the outside anymore. I hate to admit that because I really like the guy and think in the right system he could play outside. But it's not ours.

+1 on that sig dem birds lol

if we cut williams over chevis i'll lose it. not only is williams better, but he can play both safety spots too.

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I honestly don't think they'd like to give up either of the top 6 corners and we kept 6 last season. Chevis is a young player and has struggled this preseason but he knows the system and could be a serviceable backup and dimeback. He clearly doesn't belong on the outside anymore. I hate to admit that because I really like the guy and think in the right system he could play outside. But it's not ours.

Awesome sig man. You're right about Chevis. Wish it could've worked out with him, but I don't see him making it.

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I honestly don't think they'd like to give up either of the top 6 corners and we kept 6 last season. Chevis is a young player and has struggled this preseason but he knows the system and could be a serviceable backup and dimeback. He clearly doesn't belong on the outside anymore. I hate to admit that because I really like the guy and think in the right system he could play outside. But it's not ours.

Williams makes the team.

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And I have watched every preseason game, but don't remember seeing Matt Giordano at all. I'm guessing he didn't play due to injury ... if he did play, he certainly didn't make a big impact.

Giordano was the worst secondary player on the field against NE. Don't see us keeping 5 safeties either. Schillinger > Giordano

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Chevis over Williams? Yeah, right...

I too believe Williams makes the team BUT based on knowing the defense real well and experience,

not necessarily on performance.

Last year (09) opposing QBs completed a higher percentage of their passes to WRs being covered

by Williams than any other Falcon's CB (that includes Houston and Hill).

EDIT

qb 3

wr 5

te 3

rb 6

ol 8

offense =25

dl 9

lb 6

db 8

defense = 23

sp =3 TOTAL 51

D Led shorted the team by 2 players--- (normally the Falcons keep 10 DBs not 8)

other differences normally 9 OL not 8, normally 5 RB not 6

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As a quick note: To put Meier on the IR they first have to put him on the roster, so he will take a spot for a day, and then get put to IR. That means we have one less spot for a small bit of time to have another player on the team.

I seriously doubt Williams gets cut in favor of Jackson, who I doubt makes the team.

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I also raised the issue on DLEg's blog about Palmer and Zinger - I don't want to risk losing Palmer from the practice squad, really like the hands he has shown.

IMO, we should keep 4 TEs over 2 FBs. How often do you use a 2nd FB? If the need arises, drop Zinger to FB (blocking does happen to be his top skill).

I'm also in favor of keeping Palmer over Zinger if we keep 3 TEs. Yes, Palmer is not a good blocker, but can't we just make a Tackle (Reynolds?) legible for goal line situations? I trust one of our tackles catching a football about as much as Zinger.

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I can't believe that people are going to be suprised if an average 32 yeard old CB coming off an ACL tear gets cut. I have thought all along that his chances were 50/50 of making the team, and I still do.

So I guess this is one of the few times when I would side with Ledbetter.

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I don´t see Chevis Jackson as a lock because even if we cut him we still have a young secondary. Some teams would lock a roster spot for him purely based on age and draft status but not us anymore.

That said, I really like the fact that we actually have real roster spot competition on defense. That doesn´t happen very often.

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I agree totally, I would take a recovering Brian Williams over Chevis any day of the week. ;)

True... I dont know what hapened to Chevis after his rookie season. The guy has definitely gotten worse, I believe teams got tape on him and felt like they could take advantage of something that he is doing on the feild. Chevis already lacks speed, but it also seems he doesnt have any quickness or burst either. He should at least be a better tackler but after what I saw yesterday, that is def not the case. Brian Williams any day over Chevis at this point.

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Well, there was a thread about cuts yesterday I posted some opinions in, so I'll bite here. First of all, I hate his TE selections (comments below).

To be fair about Chevis, the coaches did say they're looking at "the whole body of work" while a good many of us only have online videos and the preseason games to evaluate. Perhaps they know more about Chevis than we do, or perhaps it's just a youth thing, or perhaps Ledbetter doesn't know what he's talking about.

I only left the stuff in that I truly disagreed with.

Running backs (6) Like the Smith kid, and think he could be better than a "long shot". But Klecko could easily be the bigger need here. And I agree w/the OP they don't go w/more than 5.

It's not likely that they will keep six running backs. They had to keep Aaron Stecker active last season because Michael Turner and Jerious Norwood were hurt.

Locks: Norwood, Turner, Ovie Mughelli, Jason Snelling and Dan Klecko.

Long shots: Dimitri Nance and Antone Smith.

Wide receivers (5) I also think they'll keep 6 in the end. OP what do you mean "Watch for Wire"? :huh: Didn't see Bergeron at all last game, but haven't seen our other new guys much either. Strickland is the only other one that sticks out as making some catches. I think Berg will be the guy, w/Strickland being the long shot.

With Kerry Meier this will be an all-veteran group, with Troy Bergeron possibly making the team. Michael Jenkins is recovering nicely from his shoulder injury and could be back by the opener.

Locks: Jenkins, Roddy White, Harry Douglas, Brian Finneran and Eric Weems.

On the bubble: Bergeron.add him for now and watch wire

Long shots: Andy Strickland, Tim Buckley, Brandyn Harvey and Ryan Wolfe.

Injured reserve: Meier.

Tight ends (3)

Keith Zinger's hands have improved, and he has developed into a fine in-line blocker. Look for Michael Palmer to show up on the practice squad. The Parkview High grad has potential.

Have to admit, my original roster was lacking consideration for 3 TEs, but that does make sense. However, I would easily swap Zinger for the new kid Palmer. And I hope to see him in games more than Peele. What has Zinger done to earn a spot here? He must be an excellent blocker ala Jenkins. :rolleyes:

Locks: Peelle, Zinger and Tony Gonzalez.

Long shots: Palmer and Robbie Agnone.

Can't see Hawley making the team here over Romberg. Even Valdez is kinda making a case for himself. DLed says 8, then lists 9, so not sure where he's going w/that. Other than that, this isn't terrible.

Offensive line (8)

The Falcons wanted to build some depth behind the starters.

Locks: Todd McClure, Justin Blalock, Harvey Dahl, Sam Baker, Tyson Clabo, Will Svitek, Garrett Reynolds, Joe Hawley, and Mike Johnson.

On the bubble: Jose Valdez and Brett Romberg.

Long shots: Rob Bruggeman and Blake Schlueter.

Think I would also change this to 10 and add Walker. They seem very focused on this defensive rotation plan this year, so I could see it happening.

Defensive line (9)

Trey Lewis has made it tough for the Falcons to cut him. He arguably has had the best preseason along the defensive line.

Locks: Lewis, John Abraham, Kroy Biermann, Lawrence Sidbury, Corey Peters, Chauncey Davis, Peria Jerry, Jonathan Babineaux, Jamaal Anderson.

On the bubble: Thomas Johnson and Vance Walker.

Long shots: Emmanuel Stephens and Maurice Lucas.

I could see this going either way between Chevis and Williams. Peyton actually made a good point in this thread. Also like that this has Schillinger making the team, but maybe I don't know enough about it, but that's 4 safeties. W/the way Moore lays himself out for a hit though, it's probably a really smart move!" :lol:

Defensive backs (8)

Brent Grimes and Christopher Owens have received some valuable repetitions as Dunta Robinson recovers from his hamstring injury. Look for Owens to show up as the nickel back.

William Moore played well Friday against Miami in his only action of the preseason.

"It was a feeling that I've been waiting on for a long time," Moore said of his first tackle against the Dolphins. "I actually didn't feel too nervous because I was prepared. I felt like I went out there and had a good day."

Locks: Grimes, Owens, Robinson, Moore, Chevis Jackson, Dominique Franks, Erik Coleman, Shann Schillinger and Thomas DeCoud.

On the bubble: Williams and Matt Giordano.

Long shots: Rafael Bush, Dominique Daniels and Eric Brock.

How many is that? :unsure: I didn't count, just put what I didn't agree w/DLed on.

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I bet Chevis and Williams both make the team.

In Chevis' case, he is a TD draft pick. We tend to give draft picks a lot more rope than we give others. Although he just about hung himself in the MIA game. That was an awful display.

In Williams' case, if he can knock off the rust and stay healthy he will figure prominently into the secondary by Week 3. Maybe at several positions (LCB, RCB, nickel, dime, 3-3-5 LB and possibly even safety). Wily vet, knows the system, our biggest corner, never gets beat deep, good in run support, can play big WRs, can play several positions.

Despite what Peyton and Delaigle say TD and Smitty like Williams. Smitty brought him in to right the ship last year and TD slapped a fat contract on him while he was laying on a training table.

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By D. Orlando Ledbetter

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

MIAMI -- Falcons coach Mike Smith and his staff are near the end of the evaluation process.

The Falcons must trim their roster to 75 players by Tuesday. After the final exhibition game against Jacksonville on Thursday, they'll have to trim down to 53 by Saturday.

"In terms of sitting down and talking about it, we've had numerous personnel meetings," Smith said. "We talk almost daily about who had a good day and who had a bad day."

Before training camp started, Smith said this was the most talented group he had in his three seasons as the Falcons' head coach. Some of the hotly contested position battles are at cornerback, defensive tackle and the reserve spots along the offensive line.

"There are going to be some important decisions that we are going to have to make as an organization," Smith said. "You want to make sure that you put your best 53 guys out there."

Over the past two seasons, the Falcons have juggled their roster after making the initial cuts. Last season, cornerback Brian Williams was added. In 2008, they added tight end Justin Peelle two days after the 53-man roster cut-down and traded for cornerback Domonique Foxworth.

When making their decisions, Smith and his staff evaluate players on more than exhibition games. They use the "entire body of work" approach.

Here's a look at some of the decisions facing the Falcons: (Note: The number beside each position group is the number on the Falcons' roster at the end of last season. They had 26 players on offense, 23 on defense and 4 specialists.)

Quarterbacks (3)

This will be the second season this group is together. John Parker Wilson looked good against New England's reserves.

Locks: Matt Ryan, Chris Redman and Wilson.

Running backs (6)change to 5

It's not likely that they will keep six running backs. They had to keep Aaron Stecker active last season because Michael Turner and Jerious Norwood were hurt.

Locks: Norwood, Turner, Ovie Mughelli, Jason Snelling and Dan Klecko.

Long shots: Dimitri Nance and Antone Smith.

Wide receivers (5) change to 6

With Kerry Meier this will be an all-veteran group, with Troy Bergeron possibly making the team. Michael Jenkins is recovering nicely from his shoulder injury and could be back by the opener.

Locks: Jenkins, Roddy White, Harry Douglas, Brian Finneran and Eric Weems.

On the bubble: Bergeron.add him for now and watch wire

Long shots: Andy Strickland, Tim Buckley, Brandyn Harvey and Ryan Wolfe.

Injured reserve: Meier.

Tight ends (3)

Keith Zinger's hands have improved, and he has developed into a fine in-line blocker. Look for Michael Palmer to show up on the practice squad. The Parkview High grad has potential.

Locks: Peelle, Zinger and Tony Gonzalez.

Long shots: Palmer and Robbie Agnone.

Offensive line (8)Change to (10) and add Brett Romberg.

The Falcons wanted to build some depth behind the starters.

Locks: Todd McClure, Justin Blalock, Harvey Dahl, Sam Baker, Tyson Clabo, Will Svitek, Garrett Reynolds, Joe Hawley, and Mike Johnson.

On the bubble: Jose Valdez and Brett Romberg.

Long shots: Rob Bruggeman and Blake Schlueter.

Defensive line (9) change to 10

Trey Lewis has made it tough for the Falcons to cut him. He arguably has had the best preseason along the defensive line.

Locks: Lewis, John Abraham, Kroy Biermann, Lawrence Sidbury, Corey Peters, Chauncey Davis, Peria Jerry, Jonathan Babineaux, Jamaal Anderson.

On the bubble: Thomas Johnson and Vance Walker.

Long shots: Emmanuel Stephens and Maurice Lucas.

Linebackers (6)

It's just a matter of who is going to start for this group. Robert James' four-game suspension for violating the NFL's substance-abuse policy likely will cost him a roster spot.

Locks: Curtis Lofton, Mike Peterson, Stephen Nicholas, Sean Weatherspoon, Coy Wire and Spencer Adkins.

Long shots: James, Weston Johnson and Bear Woods.

Defensive backs (8)

Brent Grimes and Christopher Owens have received some valuable repetitions as Dunta Robinson recovers from his hamstring injury. Look for Owens to show up as the nickel back.

William Moore played well Friday against Miami in his only action of the preseason.

"It was a feeling that I've been waiting on for a long time," Moore said of his first tackle against the Dolphins. "I actually didn't feel too nervous because I was prepared. I felt like I went out there and had a good day."

Locks: Grimes, Owens, Robinson, Moore, Chevis Jackson, Dominique Franks, Erik Coleman, Shann Schillinger and Thomas DeCoud.

On the bubble: Williams and Matt Giordano.

Long shots: Rafael Bush, Dominique Daniels and Eric Brock.

Specialists (4) change to (3)

Matt Bryant beat out Steven Hauschka for the place-kicking duties.

Locks: Bryant, Michael Koenen and Joe Zelenka.

I believe B.Williams makes it over both Chevis Jackson and Matt Giordano.

I agree. I think we keep Williams over Jackson. I hope we can trade Jackson.

By D. Orlando Ledbetter

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

MIAMI -- Falcons coach Mike Smith and his staff are near the end of the evaluation process.

The Falcons must trim their roster to 75 players by Tuesday. After the final exhibition game against Jacksonville on Thursday, they'll have to trim down to 53 by Saturday.

"In terms of sitting down and talking about it, we've had numerous personnel meetings," Smith said. "We talk almost daily about who had a good day and who had a bad day."

Before training camp started, Smith said this was the most talented group he had in his three seasons as the Falcons' head coach. Some of the hotly contested position battles are at cornerback, defensive tackle and the reserve spots along the offensive line.

"There are going to be some important decisions that we are going to have to make as an organization," Smith said. "You want to make sure that you put your best 53 guys out there."

Over the past two seasons, the Falcons have juggled their roster after making the initial cuts. Last season, cornerback Brian Williams was added. In 2008, they added tight end Justin Peelle two days after the 53-man roster cut-down and traded for cornerback Domonique Foxworth.

When making their decisions, Smith and his staff evaluate players on more than exhibition games. They use the "entire body of work" approach.

Here's a look at some of the decisions facing the Falcons: (Note: The number beside each position group is the number on the Falcons' roster at the end of last season. They had 26 players on offense, 23 on defense and 4 specialists.)

Quarterbacks (3)

This will be the second season this group is together. John Parker Wilson looked good against New England's reserves.

Locks: Matt Ryan, Chris Redman and Wilson.

Running backs (6)change to 5

It's not likely that they will keep six running backs. They had to keep Aaron Stecker active last season because Michael Turner and Jerious Norwood were hurt.

Locks: Norwood, Turner, Ovie Mughelli, Jason Snelling and Dan Klecko.

Long shots: Dimitri Nance and Antone Smith.

Wide receivers (5) change to 6

With Kerry Meier this will be an all-veteran group, with Troy Bergeron possibly making the team. Michael Jenkins is recovering nicely from his shoulder injury and could be back by the opener.

Locks: Jenkins, Roddy White, Harry Douglas, Brian Finneran and Eric Weems.

On the bubble: Bergeron.add him for now and watch wire

Long shots: Andy Strickland, Tim Buckley, Brandyn Harvey and Ryan Wolfe.

Injured reserve: Meier.

Tight ends (3)

Keith Zinger's hands have improved, and he has developed into a fine in-line blocker. Look for Michael Palmer to show up on the practice squad. The Parkview High grad has potential.

Locks: Peelle, Zinger and Tony Gonzalez.

Long shots: Palmer and Robbie Agnone.

Offensive line (8)Change to (10) and add Brett Romberg.

The Falcons wanted to build some depth behind the starters.

Locks: Todd McClure, Justin Blalock, Harvey Dahl, Sam Baker, Tyson Clabo, Will Svitek, Garrett Reynolds, Joe Hawley, and Mike Johnson.

On the bubble: Jose Valdez and Brett Romberg.

Long shots: Rob Bruggeman and Blake Schlueter.

Defensive line (9) change to 10

Trey Lewis has made it tough for the Falcons to cut him. He arguably has had the best preseason along the defensive line.

Locks: Lewis, John Abraham, Kroy Biermann, Lawrence Sidbury, Corey Peters, Chauncey Davis, Peria Jerry, Jonathan Babineaux, Jamaal Anderson.

On the bubble: Thomas Johnson and Vance Walker.

Long shots: Emmanuel Stephens and Maurice Lucas.

Linebackers (6)

It's just a matter of who is going to start for this group. Robert James' four-game suspension for violating the NFL's substance-abuse policy likely will cost him a roster spot.

Locks: Curtis Lofton, Mike Peterson, Stephen Nicholas, Sean Weatherspoon, Coy Wire and Spencer Adkins.

Long shots: James, Weston Johnson and Bear Woods.

Defensive backs (8)

Brent Grimes and Christopher Owens have received some valuable repetitions as Dunta Robinson recovers from his hamstring injury. Look for Owens to show up as the nickel back.

William Moore played well Friday against Miami in his only action of the preseason.

"It was a feeling that I've been waiting on for a long time," Moore said of his first tackle against the Dolphins. "I actually didn't feel too nervous because I was prepared. I felt like I went out there and had a good day."

Locks: Grimes, Owens, Robinson, Moore, Chevis Jackson, Dominique Franks, Erik Coleman, Shann Schillinger and Thomas DeCoud.

On the bubble: Williams and Matt Giordano.

Long shots: Rafael Bush, Dominique Daniels and Eric Brock.

Specialists (4) change to (3)

Matt Bryant beat out Steven Hauschka for the place-kicking duties.

Locks: Bryant, Michael Koenen and Joe Zelenka.

I believe B.Williams makes it over both Chevis Jackson and Matt Giordano.

I agree. I think we keep Williams over Jackson. I hope we can trade Jackson.

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Don't forget that every year we have the flexibility to go deep at several positions. Due to injury concerns those positions could be DB, DT, WR and maybe RB this year.

Just think about it:

DB

Dunta - pulled hammy

Grimes - pulled up lame again with a groin against MIA

Williams - coming off knee injury

Moore - coming off IR

DT

Peria - coming off IR

TJ - out most of preseason with Achilles

Peters - dinged up with popped knee

Busterson - dinged up in preseason

Babineaux - gunja injury

WR

Jenkins - shoulder injury

Fin - coming off injury

HD - coming off injury

Meier - out for season

RB

Wildwood - coming off hip injury

Turner - coming off high ankle sprain

I'm sure this will figure into the final roster.

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