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"I have to give the Texans credit. I think they made the right move letting Dunta Robinson walk. I don't think he is the player he was, coming out of college."

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Insider: Seahawks will be Carroll's last job

Posted July 27, 2010 @ 5:01 p.m. ET

By PFW staff

The following quotes are from NFL scouts, coaches and front-office personnel, speaking on the condition of anonymity.

• "Pete Carroll knew what was staring him in the face (NCAA sanctions). He played it right and got out. I think this will be his last job. He will never coach again after this one — and I don't think it will end well. They traded for LenDale White and Kevin Vickerson. White is already gone, and Vickerson will bring a lot of headaches for a backup DT. They signed (WR) Reggie Williams and already cut him. They have made a lot of moves since (Carroll) has taken over, but how many will prove worthy? There was a reason Pete did not want (Patriots senior football advisor) Floyd Reese in the building. Pete wanted control. ... Every expert in the country gave Seattle's draft a glowing recommendation, but throw on the national championship game and watch Earl Thomas try to tackle those NFL backs (on Alabama). He whiffed at least five times. He will be run at all day. I'm looking forward to playing him."

• "When you look at why (LB) Adalius Thomas was successful in Baltimore, so much of it had to do with the supporting cast. He was surrounded by so much talent and was schemed to create pressure. He was never dominant with his hand in the dirt. Most of his production came from overloaded blitzes. I never understood why New England was interested. There was a reason Baltimore would not pay him."

"I have to give the Texans credit. I think they made the right move letting Dunta Robinson walk. I don't think he is the player he was, coming out of college."

"The financial troubles have been mounting in Dallas because of how much they overextended on the stadium. They were ecstatic to be in the final eight and not have to go sign players. The dominoes could not have fallen better. Do you think it was a coincidence Montrae Holland was their only free agent? If they lost one, they could only sign one, and no one was going to sign a backup guard. And if they did sign one, (it could only amount to what they lost). Looking at when the stadium was built and how the CBA has gone down, it could not have fallen any better for the Cowboys."

• "When you look at (former Browns GM) Phil Savage's tenure in Cleveland, what it shows is that he could find college players. It was his pro personnel moves that killed him. He gave up picks and overpaid (DL) Corey Williams, who was best-suited for a (rotational) role in a "30" front. When (DL Johnny) Jolly went on I.R. (in Green Bay), (Williams) wore down fast. (Savage) paid (OG Eric) Steinbach like a top-five guard when he is far from it. He's just not tough enough. They traded a fourth-round pick the first year (Savage) was there for Trent Dilfer and gave big money to Derek ­Anderson, who then demanded to get out of there because he could not stand the ­offensive coordinator. Even when Anderson was at his best, he was not very good. He cannot move his feet. Oh yeah, and (Savage) traded up for Brady Quinn. (Savage) could never get the QB situation squared away."

• "To me, the Lions' biggest problem is this — (defensive coordinator) Gunther ­Cunningham is still coaching in the '80s scheme-wise. He has not adapted to the new game. You have to know your defense and know what is most important and make it a priority in the acquisition of players. I think (head coach Jim Schwartz) gets it. I don't think Gunny understands matchups very well."

• "(Eagles CB) Asante Samuel does not like to tackle, and he is a riverboat gambler. He makes a lot of plays on the ball, but he gives up a lot (by) misdiagnosing routes and biting on play-action and pump fakes. He has a big-play flair, but he has not been nearly as consistent as you'd like (for the Eagles). He was that way with the ­Patriots."

• "It is a shame Steven Jackson is not on a better football team. When he is healthy, he is the best back in the league to me. He runs with more violence and strength than Adrian Peterson. You can clump ­Marshawn Lynch in there as well. When (Lynch) is right, he is a beast."

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Naturally coming off of an ACL, he was better for them last year toward the end of the season. I think he will be even better for us this year.

I think its fair to say "the jury is out" on this offseason move of Dunta Robinson. I'm optimistic and believe in Thomas Dimitroff so that is what makes me confident. I don't think it was a "no brainer" move though.....Falcons are definitely better with Dunta than they were without him.

To me, the more relevant question for Falcons is, "Is Dunta Robinson deserving of being paid as the #2 CB in all of the NFL?". To me, Dunta is definitely NOT worth that - but its not my money and there is no salary cap right now so who really cares. Falcons are better.

hopefully it will be a great move!

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I think its fair to say "the jury is out" on this offseason move of Dunta Robinson. I'm optimistic and believe in Thomas Dimitroff so that is what makes me confident. I don't think it was a "no brainer" move though.....Falcons are definitely better with Dunta than they were without him.

To me, the more relevant question for Falcons is, "Is Dunta Robinson deserving of being paid as the #2 CB in all of the NFL?". To me, Dunta is definitely NOT worth that - but its not my money and there is no salary cap right now so who really cares. Falcons are better.

hopefully it will be a great move!

My sentiments exactly Dawg. Somehow i don't take solace in the statements that some have

made "He was the Best CB available in Free agency". I just don't know but like you, I

too hope it works out. Bottom line to me, he has to be a huge upgrade over CH-23, right?

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I can't say I disagree. The Texans probably should have let him walk. But the fact still remains that we needed a CB and got the best one available. Now, whether or not Mr. Blank gets a good return on his investment...time will tell. But I think both the Texans and Falcons made the right decision based on their teams.

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Robinson is gonna play his booty off for our Falcons !!!

Exactly thank you. They always say change is good!

Now he his at a place he always loved, he is getting the money, 2nd year after injury.

No ring.

I mean the guy has everything in the world to play for now

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He had a bad year last year, but he was never fully recovered from the injury, he was a little gimpy all year ....I have total faith that our staff did it's due diligence in clearing him medically before ponying up the huge contract ...if there were any concerns, they would have passed on him...a full recovery, a change of scenery, and a new scheme should = success, he was never a good fit in the man scheme they ran most of the time....like others stated, we don't need him to be Aso ...we just need him to be solid ...

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I don't know about the Dunta comment, but this.. "(Eagles CB) Asante Samuel does not like to tackle, and he is a riverboat gambler. He makes a lot of plays on the ball, but he gives up a lot (by) misdiagnosing routes and biting on play-action and pump fakes. He has a big-play flair, but he has not been nearly as consistent as you'd like (for the Eagles). He was that way with the ­Patriots."

Sounded like they were describing Meangelo Hall!-- :lol:

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This guys played against Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Peyton and Andre Johnson. This guy has to be worth the money paid. Think about how good he has become as a player just based on that. He wouldnt have been around in Houston if he could not play or match up with those guys. Theres no way they would have kept him around if he wasnt able to stop either one of those guys. Have faith not only in the Front Office but in Dunta as a player. Hes good, he knows he's good, the front office knows it so just relax. I think alot of people on this board are loving the moves this team has made in the past 3 years.

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Hopefully the change in scenery is exactly what he needed. Matt Ryan has already commented on how often he sees Robinson in the weight room and the leadership role he has taken. He is definitely a man on a mission.

It might have been the right move for the Texans, but it was also the right move by the Falcons. We went from having a very sub-par CB to an AT LEAST average CB (in fact, the best we have). Not only is it addition by subtraction (trading Chris Houston), but also addition by addition. We should notice an improvement in the play of the secondary, but I am still a bit worried about our pass rush.

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Honestly, it just seemed like we almost HAD to go after him. It would be tough going into another season where Brian Williams or Brent Girmes could possibly be our #1 CB. Adding a rookie wouldn't have necessarily corrected the problem.....especially considering that the CB class wasn't overly great.

I don't think we are done yet adding guys either. I believe it is a high possibility that we will draft another CB very early in next years draft. We have to compete with the Saints and adding quality CBs will only help us when trying to defend their passing attack.

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I mean I can understand why it was said. Dunta didn't really do much last year that would scream "$57 Million dollar man"

HOWEVER

I think that being in this system, being back home in ATL with his family near, and MOST IMPORTANTLY being happy where he is.

I don't think he was happy in Houston, and it showed.

I can't wait to see what he brings to the team

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"The financial troubles have been mounting in Dallas because of how much they overextended on the stadium. They were ecstatic to be in the final eight and not have to go sign players. The dominoes could not have fallen better. Do you think it was a coincidence Montrae Holland was their only free agent? If they lost one, they could only sign one, and no one was going to sign a backup guard. And if they did sign one, (it could only amount to what they lost). Looking at when the stadium was built and how the CBA has gone down, it could not have fallen any better for the Cowboys."

This is the first I heard of financial trouble in Dallas. This guy seems like a hack. I feel Duntas success will really depend on the amount of pressure Atlanta can put on opposing qb's.

Not the same source for every snip. I take the audibles with a grain of salt, they are just personal opinions and personal insight. Some are pretty good though.

One thing stood out to me, and definitely gave me a different opinion of the Bengals franchise:

• "It's ironic, for how often Mike Brown is called cheap, how much he takes care of his people. I was out of the league for a year and not under contract, and Mr. Brown covered my family medically. He did not have to do it. He just did. When you look at integrating minorities into the NFL and letting them be stars, letting them be themselves, the Brown family was one of the first. How many other places do you think Chad (Ochocinco) could pull off the (shenanigans) he pulls off?"
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