SacFalcFan Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 i guess we will find out Monday right if he decided on coming back. Very bad precedent to set for dooley if this happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuyDawg Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 There's a few decisions that Dooley has made at UT that's left me scratching my head.Remember the first Darren Myles alcohol issue, he "punished the whole team."When the whole bar brawl went down, he kicked Myles out but yet he's waiting on everyone else to see what the outcome of an "independent investigation" is. Somebody was left in serious condition for about a week. Now this whole Bryce Brown issue. What other proof do you need that will show you that this kid is not interested in what you're selling. It seems that UT and Dooley have been begging this kid to stay. I'm sure that will go well with the veterans on the team who are fighting for playing time. I hope Brown comes back and becomes a cancer that he has shown to be. This should be lesson well learned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U.S. American Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Now this whole Bryce Brown issue. What other proof do you need that will show you that this kid is not interested in what you're selling. It seems that UT and Dooley have been begging this kid to stay. I'm sure that will go well with the veterans on the team who are fighting for playing time. I hope Brown comes back and becomes a cancer that he has shown to be. This should be lesson well learned.i admit i don't know about these "issues", but i saw him play last year and i would beg if it was a simple matter of wishy-washy teenager stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Falcon Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 (edited) Dooley said it was up to the team whether or not they would allow Bryce to come back, if he even does. The players would like to have him come back but have said that he will need to do a lot to earn back trust and respect in the locker room which is to be expected. I like this decision by Dooley, but I still think Brown heads to K-state. Edited July 26, 2010 by Volunteer Falcon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SacFalcFan Posted July 26, 2010 Author Share Posted July 26, 2010 Dooley said it was up to the team whether or not they would allow Bryce to come back, if he even does. The players would like to have him come back but have said that he will need to do a lot to earn back trust and respect in the locker room which is to be expected. I like this decision by Dooley, but I still think Brown heads to K-state.let me ask you this question who runs the team dooley or his players? it's one thing to be a player's coach, but it's another to let the player's run the team. allowing bryce back after he left the team (which is what happened) set the precedent for his team and his future in tennessee.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Falcon Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 let me ask you this question who runs the team dooley or his players? it's one thing to be a player's coach, but it's another to let the player's run the team. allowing bryce back after he left the team (which is what happened) set the precedent for his team and his future in tennessee..Obviously Dooley runs the team, but in this situation allowing the team to decide what happens to Brown is the right decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SacFalcFan Posted July 26, 2010 Author Share Posted July 26, 2010 Obviously Dooley runs the team, but in this situation allowing the team to decide what happens to Brown is the right decision.we won't agree on this at all.. IMO it's a terrible decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Falcon Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 we won't agree on this at all.. IMO it's a terrible decision.Nope not on this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octdawg Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Terrible decision. How can you let a kid come back on the team who's not committed. I don't care who's voting. Dooley is making a mistake. Maybe there's some punishment involved that we won't hear about like extra running ect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Some jackass would rather play for Kansas State than Tennessee?? Dang... things have gotten worse than I thought in Knoxville. :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SacFalcFan Posted July 27, 2010 Author Share Posted July 27, 2010 i was talking with an ex-coach tonight about this and he said no way do you keep bryce bown.. you say when we were working when you were shopping around. you left us and you lost that priviledge of coming back. the right message to his team would have been you quit on us and didn't work out, you lose. this is not about team it's about bryce.. i know ut is hurting for talent and a soft tailback who isn't interested in team is very compelling, but that is a bad precedent to set for the team now and in the future.he did say he felt because dooley was a younger coach that he feels this is the best way to not tick off his team and make a bad situation worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xnex Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 I think there is a way Bryce could be allowed back on the team, and everything be okay and acceptable. But the key to it working would be if Bryce made an honest, heart felt apology to the team, and asked for their forgiveness. If he is truthful, and really does want to return to the team, Bryce could earn the respect of the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Falcon Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 I think there is a way Bryce could be allowed back on the team, and everything be okay and acceptable. But the key to it working would be if Bryce made an honest, heart felt apology to the team, and asked for their forgiveness. If he is truthful, and really does want to return to the team, Bryce could earn the respect of the team.Good post xnex, if the team wants to welcome him back then they should. Bryce Brown has had a lot of pressure on him this off season from his father who makes a lot of decisions for them such as telling Arthur to leave Miami. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SacFalcFan Posted July 27, 2010 Author Share Posted July 27, 2010 lester (murphy nc)Chris, Coach Dooley was supposed to meet with BB today, any word from that yetChris Low (1:02 PM)Dooley told me at the SEC media days that he expects Brown to ask for his release. I guess the door isn't completely shut, but Dooley would create some problems for himself with his team if he brings Brown back at this point when he hasn't done anything with the team for five months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Falcon Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 lester (murphy nc)Chris, Coach Dooley was supposed to meet with BB today, any word from that yetChris Low (1:02 PM)Dooley told me at the SEC media days that he expects Brown to ask for his release. I guess the door isn't completely shut, but Dooley would create some problems for himself with his team if he brings Brown back at this point when he hasn't done anything with the team for five months.I expect him to ask for his release as well, as far as creating problems with the team i'm sure a couple of players would be upset, but there are a TON of players who would love to see him back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtcrews75 Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 I expect him to ask for his release as well, as far as creating problems with the team i'm sure a couple of players would be upset, but there are a TON of players who would love to see him back.Its being reported he skipped the meeting with dooley and text him instead stating he is leaving the program. Stay classy mr brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Falcon Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Its being reported he skipped the meeting with dooley and text him instead stating he is leaving the program. Stay classy mr brown.That's what I heard, all he had to do was ask and he would of been released but apparently he tucked tail and ran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SacFalcFan Posted July 28, 2010 Author Share Posted July 28, 2010 Its being reported he skipped the meeting with dooley and text him instead stating he is leaving the program. Stay classy mr brown.yep as I said keeping him would have called problems and how he handled the meeting says it all about bryce brown and he doesn't deserve to be on that team at all. he didn't earn it and his actions show what type of character he doesn't have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pured-hallfan Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Its being reported he skipped the meeting with dooley and text him instead stating he is leaving the program. Stay classy mr brown.How dare he. The man offers you options and allows you a meeting to fully discuss your next move and possibly help you. You blow him off and send him a text saying so long. That is completely disrespectful to the coach and the entire UT program. This kid doesn't get it and it's really sad. When you tell a man you will meet with him to discuss something tell him the truth man to man. Face up to your problem meet him and say I want to be somewhere else don't run away and tell him from a distance. Classless/ Coward those are the only things you can say about Bryce at this point he is a classless coward. UT and the entire SEC will be better off with him hanging out in Kansas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 How dare he. The man offers you options and allows you a meeting to fully discuss your next move and possibly help you. You blow him off and send him a text saying so long. That is completely disrespectful to the coach and the entire UT program. This kid doesn't get it and it's really sad. When you tell a man you will meet with him to discuss something tell him the truth man to man. Face up to your problem meet him and say I want to be somewhere else don't run away and tell him from a distance. Classless/ Coward those are the only things you can say about Bryce at this point he is a classless coward. UT and the entire SEC will be better off with him hanging out in KansasWas it wrong, yes, but lets keep in mind, its still very much a very young man. Hopefully hes learning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 It's not uncommon these days for young men to lack a sense of responsibility and holding to their word. As the common mindset is in today's world, it's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission. It's easier to ignore responsibility than stand up to it.I wish the young man well, but he should have held to his word and spoken with Dooley. It's only common decency to at least tell him face to face that you are in fact moving on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgy Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Was it wrong, yes, but lets keep in mind, its still very much a very young man. Hopefully hes learning.I'm sorry, but that is the kind of stuff a 10 yr old should know. A negative mark on Dooley for letting someone kick the program around. If UT can not respect itself, other would not as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuyDawg Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Calling out Volunteer Falcon,This is the guy you wanted to come back to your team. Another example of Dooley being in over his head, dude is 0 for 3 in my book.Why is it that UT fans are so dang stubborn. You were spinning Lane Kiffin, and now attempted to spin Mr. Brown. I get the fact that you stand behind your team 100 percent, but sometimes you have to call out mistakes if you're a true fan.I hope Dooley gets it right and Mr. Brown find a place to be happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SacFalcFan Posted July 28, 2010 Author Share Posted July 28, 2010 Calling out Volunteer Falcon,This is the guy you wanted to come back to your team. Another example of Dooley being in over his head, dude is 0 for 3 in my book.Why is it that UT fans are so dang stubborn. You were spinning Lane Kiffin, and now attempted to spin Mr. Brown. I get the fact that you stand behind your team 100 percent, but sometimes you have to call out mistakes if you're a true fan.I hope Dooley gets it right and Mr. Brown find a place to be happy.not to call out volunteer fan, but the spinning from vol fans on this was just wrong.. anyone who has played on a team or coached would have seen it how I and others saw this situation. sometimes fans let them rooting for their team take over their viewpoint (all of us have that issue from time to time), but it seems the past year and some vol fans have defended guys like bryce and kiffin when they had no business doing that. it was clear bryce brown had no business to be on this team and his actions showed that even before his cowardly act in how he finally told dooley what he decided to do. Dooley should have never let it get to that point and he should have stepped it up and said see ya bryce we only need team players on this team and in this program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SacFalcFan Posted July 28, 2010 Author Share Posted July 28, 2010 I'm sorry, but that is the kind of stuff a 10 yr old should know. A negative mark on Dooley for letting someone kick the program around. If UT can not respect itself, other would not as well.true.. i appreciate andrew's comment in a way, but there is no excuse for this and no excuse for dooley not handling this the right way.. don't let another player take precedent over the team and that is what he was doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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