IceStone Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 I never knew this about Roman Polanski until it became news. Don't think I will watch any more of his movies. LinkAuthorities in Switzerland have decided not to extradite film director Roman Polanski to the US to face sentencing for a case dating back to 1977.Polanski, aged 76, has been under house arrest in his Swiss chalet since December 2009 pending the decision.The filmmaker is wanted in California over a conviction for unlawful sex with a 13-year-old girl.The US was "deeply disappointed" with the decision, a senior justice department official said.Los Angeles District Attorney Steve Cooley's office, which had sought to have Polanski returned to Los Angeles, was also expected to issue a formal statement shortly.After the Swiss ruling, Polanski paid "massive thanks" to his supporters."I simply want, from the bottom of my heart, to thank all those who supported me and tell them today of my great satisfaction," the Polish-born French filmmaker said in a statement released to the AFP news agency by his lawyer Herve Temime.Polanski also reportedly left his luxurious Alpine chalet in the resort of Gstaad for an unknown destination.'National interests'Earlier on Monday, Swiss Justice Minister Eveline Widmer-Schlumpf said "the measures taken to restrict the freedom of Mr Polanski have already been lifted, the electronic tag has been removed".Continue reading the main story The great Franco-Polish director will from now on be able to rejoin his friends and family and work fully on his artistic projectsBernard Kouchner French Foreign MinisterThe justice ministry said that the US authorities had failed to provide confidential testimony about Polanski's original sentencing procedure."The reason for the decision lies in the fact that it was not possible to exclude with the necessary certainty a fault in the US extraditionary request."Polanski was originally charged with six offences including rape and sodomy over the 1977 case.In 1978, he pleaded guilty to unlawful sex following a plea bargain. He served 42 days in a US prison.He has always maintained he was promised a short sentence, but he fled the US after hearing rumours that the judge was about to re-sentence him for a much longer term. He has never returned to the US.On Monday, the Swiss said that the US authorities simply had not clarified the issue of length of sentence and therefore had not made a convincing case for extradition.The justice ministry added that that national interests were taken into consideration in the decision.A Swiss official said the US cannot appeal the decision.'Overjoyed'Polanski was taken into custody in Switzerland in September last year as he travelled from France to collect a lifetime achievement award at the Zurich Film Festival.Polanski, whose films include Rosemary's Baby and The Pianist, was moved from prison and placed under house arrest at Gstaad in early December.Polanski's wife, French actress Emmanuelle Seigner, said she was overjoyed at the decision.She said: "It is with great pleasure that I have just learned of my husband's release. For me and for my children it is the end of a nightmare that has lasted more than nine months."I am really looking forward to being able to make plans and to once again have a normal family life, especially with my children, who did not deserve this suffering," she added in a statement.Polanski's release was also welcomed by French politicians and artists."The great Franco-Polish director will from now on be able to rejoin his friends and family and work fully on his artistic projects," French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner said.The Polish foreign ministry also welcomed the Swiss decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pencilpusher. just because Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 He should have been home at Cielo drive in August of 1969. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Carlton Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 nasty sir, very nasty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dem Birds Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 (Lois walks in on Stewie torturing a bully)Stewie: We're playing house...Lois: But that kid is all tied up!Stewie: Roman Polanski's house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstngoal Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 How will the Swiss feel about their 13 year old girls being molested???????????? Just asking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pencilpusher. just because Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 How will the Swiss feel about their 13 year old girls being molested???????????? Just asking.In Switzerland,it's probably legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vogelgryff Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 In Switzerland,it's probably legal.You guys are just jealous... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethanga62890 Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 He should have been home at Cielo drive in August of 1969.This +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pencilpusher. just because Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 This +1Dude just never seemed appropriately sad about all that to me. When asked how long Abigal Folger and her bF had been staying there, he said " too long, apparently." Yea dude, your wife and unborn baby were slaughtered and she died begging for her baby's life. crack a joke or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pencilpusher. just because Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 You guys are just jealous... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethanga62890 Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Dude just never seemed appropriately sad about all that to me. When asked how long Abigal Folger and her bF had been staying there, he said " too long, apparently." Yea dude, your wife and unborn baby were slaughtered and she died begging for her baby's life. crack a joke or two.That on top of (bordering) child molestation i think i'm gonna not like this guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritzblitz 2.0 Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Dude just never seemed appropriately sad about all that to me. When asked how long Abigal Folger and her bF had been staying there, he said " too long, apparently." Yea dude, your wife and unborn baby were slaughtered and she died begging for her baby's life. crack a joke or two.This pic does make me feel bad for him. This was a day after the murders. Notice the blood on the patio and "PIG" written on the door in his wife's blood. It's obvious that he was devastated, but the fact remains that he raped a child and escaped justice.*An interesting note: Trent Reznor of Nine Inch Nails was the last person to live in that house before it was torn down (Despite the prime location, no one wanted anything to do with that property). Reznor built a recording studio in the den where the murders were committed and that's where he recorded "The downward spiral" and Marilyn Manson recorded his debut album there as well. He also kept the infamous front door from the house and installed it in his recording studio in New Orleans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pencilpusher. just because Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 This pic does make me feel bad for him. This was a day after the murders. Notice the blood on the patio and "PIG" written on the door in his wife's blood. It's obvious that he was devastated, but the fact remains that he raped a child and escaped justice.*An interesting note: Trent Reznor of Nine Inch Nails was the last person to live in that house before it was torn down (Despite the prime location, no one wanted anything to do with that property). Reznor built a recording studio in the den where the murders were committed and that's where he recorded "The downward spiral" and Marilyn Manson recorded his debut album there as well. He also kept the infamous front door from the house and installed it in his recording studio in New Orleans. Go find " six degrees of Helter Skelter" The cover may look like a cheap cheese movie, but it is actually very informative . Dude visits all the sites, a lot of the surrounding area and tells a lot of stories like that.As far as Roman goes, some of his movies are among my faves. "Rosemary's Baby" and "The Pianist" in particular.And now I read the victim who is of course now an adult woman wants everyone just to let it go.Pleased he is a free man... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo Risin Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Dude just never seemed appropriately sad about all that to me. When asked how long Abigal Folger and her bF had been staying there, he said " too long, apparently." Yea dude, your wife and unborn baby were slaughtered and she died begging for her baby's life. crack a joke or two.According to people close to him and Sharon's sister, he was devastated. I don't quite buy into that "he didn't care" assumption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hoopah! Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Go find " six degrees of Helter Skelter" The cover may look like a cheap cheese movie, but it is actually very informative . Dude visits all the sites, a lot of the surrounding area and tells a lot of stories like that.As far as Roman goes, some of his movies are among my faves. "Rosemary's Baby" and "The Pianist" in particular.And now I read the victim who is of course now an adult woman wants everyone just to let it go.Pleased he is a free man...Rosemary's Baby is one of my alltime favorite movies, and IMO, the ultimate "anti-horror" movie. I thought it was brilliant that Anton Lavey portrayed the devil in the rape scene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo Risin Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Six degrees of Helter Skelter was more of a memorabilia hunt than an actual documentary. The history channel's special on Manson was more dependent on facts than the "six degrees of how to collect Manson memorabilia." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo Risin Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 To the main topic at hand, there are more important things to do than chase someone for statutory rape.I don't condone having sex with minors but it's pathetic for people to act like Polanski should be lynched. The obsession over it is insane. It's not like he is a threat to society and needs to be jailed.If it were rape, yes. In this case, move the **** on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hoopah! Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 To the main topic at hand, there are more important things to do than chase someone for statutory rape.I don't condone having sex with minors but it's pathetic for people to act like Polanski should be lynched. The obsession over it is insane. It's not like he is a threat to society and needs to be jailed.If it were rape, yes. In this case, move the **** on.I could be mistaken, but if I recall he gave this girl qualudes (sp?) and sodomized her anally when she passed out. That's always why there was so much outrage over him getting away with it, I don't just think it was just a consensual act with an underage girl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo Risin Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 (edited) I could be mistaken, but if I recall he gave this girl qualudes (sp?) and sodomized her anally when she passed out. That's always why there was so much outrage over him getting away with it, I don't just think it was just a consensual act with an underage girl.I'm not positive of all of the facts so I can't really comment on the depth of the case but if enough was questionable to lessen the charge to statutory rape, I still think chasing him is a waste of time. The time our law enforcement spends trying to locate and get him sent back could be spent on more important things going on right now.EDIT: So it appears the charges were lessened because the Prosecutor wanted to protect the identity of the victim? I don't see that as a justification of giving an actual rapist a weaker charge. Edited July 15, 2010 by Mojo Risin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joremarid Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 how could this happen? i don't understand. he was sentenced, served time in jail, then he was released? and then he fled? why was he let out? did he serve his initial sentence and was getting ready to be sentenced again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pencilpusher. just because Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Six degrees of Helter Skelter was more of a memorabilia hunt than an actual documentary. The history channel's special on Manson was more dependent on facts than the "six degrees of how to collect Manson memorabilia." Ahh, Mojo and his endless quest to always be the contrarian. If you didn't like the movie, which I suspect you have not seen by your remarks, cool. But it has a ton of info about Manson and the family. I mean yea, the guy picked up a hubcap at the Spahn ranch site and showed a few things fans had sent him outside of Manson stuff. But he also gave quite the tour of where stuff happened and a ton of information on a lot of Peripheral people and events that all tied together.I'm glad the history channel had something about actual history though. I did learn that much from your post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pencilpusher. just because Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 To the main topic at hand, there are more important things to do than chase someone for statutory rape.I don't condone having sex with minors but it's pathetic for people to act like Polanski should be lynched. The obsession over it is insane. It's not like he is a threat to society and needs to be jailed.If it were rape, yes. In this case, move the **** on.having sex with a girl under the age of consent, and a drugged one at that, IS rape. adding statutory before it may change it from a legal angle but it doesn't change it from what it really is..rape. However, if the girl who was raped now says she does not wish for prosecution, I say that should be the end of the case. It's obvious she would never cooperate in court and he probably has too many sympathizers to waste the time and money and effort on. I mean, no one wants to prosecute Melanie Griffith who Tatum Oneal said gave her drugs and had sex with her when she was underage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo Risin Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Ahh, Mojo and his endless quest to always be the contrarian. If you didn't like the movie, which I suspect you have not seen by your remarks, cool. But it has a ton of info about Manson and the family. I mean yea, the guy picked up a hubcap at the Spahn ranch site and showed a few things fans had sent him outside of Manson stuff. But he also gave quite the tour of where stuff happened and a ton of information on a lot of Peripheral people and events that all tied together.I'm glad the history channel had something about actual history though. I did learn that much from your post.No, I watched it. I wouldn't comment on it had I not viewed it. All he did was show spots of happenings and ex-residences. There were brief tid-bits of info. It was weak and watered down. The guy started find-a-death.com and spent most of this movie searching for memorabilia. The fact that he spent so much time investigating who lived close to the Whiskey a go-go showed the credibility of the project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo Risin Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 having sex with a girl under the age of consent, and a drugged one at that, IS rape. adding statutory before it may change it from a legal angle but it doesn't change it from what it really is..rape. However, if the girl who was raped now says she does not wish for prosecution, I say that should be the end of the case. It's obvious she would never cooperate in court and he probably has too many sympathizers to waste the time and money and effort on. I mean, no one wants to prosecute Melanie Griffith who Tatum Oneal said gave her drugs and had sex with her when she was underage.It's quite fashionable to get on this "lynch Roman Polanski" trip and I for one am surprised that you tag along to it. -_- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pencilpusher. just because Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 It's quite fashionable to get on this "lynch Roman Polanski" trip and I for one am surprised that you tag along to it. -_- When disliking people who rape drugged children goes out of fashion, stop the world and let me off, man. And actually I said in that post if the victim doesn't want to prosecute, that should be that. But why should there be a time limit on hating a disgusting act? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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