FalconFanSince1970 Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 OK folks. You all know me by now I am avid Falcon fan. One that calls it like he sees it. Good, bad or ugly. Win, lose or draw. I will never change.I was trying to find something we can talk about during the summer drought. I think I found something.MATT RYAN IS A BEAST. TRUST ME.Dude has the highest winning% of any Falcon QB that started at least 30 games. He was the first Falcon QB to break the back to back curse. After 43 tries. Butta.He is off to a marvelous start. Already checked off the Falcon stats. Now let's see how he ranks amongst the Top 15 Active NFL QBs in what many think are the two most important stats for a QB:TOP 15 ACTIVE QB's WINNING% AFTER THEIR FIRST TWO YEARSTom Brady - 11-3 (.786)Matt Ryan - 20-10 (.667)Joe Flacco - 20-12 (.625)Bret Favre - 8-5 (.615)Donovan McNabb - 13-9 (.591)Carson Palmer - 17-12 (.586)Eli Manning - 12-11 (.522)Peyton Manning - 16-16 (.500)Drew Brees - 8-8 (.500)Jake Delhomme - 1-1 (.500)Philip Rivers - 0-0 (.000)Aaron Rogers - 0-1 (.000)Matt Schaub - 0-2 (.000)Tony Romo - 0-0 (.000)Matt Hasselbeck - 0-0 (.000)TOP 15 ACTIVE QB's PASSER RATING AFTER THEIR FIRST TWO YEARSCarson Palmer - 90.2Tom Brady - 86.1Joe Flacco - 84.9Matt Ryan - 84.3Matt Hasselbeck - 83.3Bret Favre - 82.9Peyton Manning - 80.6Drew Brees - 77.8Eli Manning - 70.5Jake Delhomme - 69.1Matt Schaub - 68.8Donovan McNabb - 67.2Phillip Rivers - 67.1Aaron Rogers - 43.9Tony Romo - 0.0Any questions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Matt Ryan hasn't even had his Breakout year yet.. Be Scared of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSFalcon Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Good post. Interesting stats compared to some of the top QBs in the league. This kid is something special, and he will bring us our first Super Bowl championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted July 8, 2010 Author Share Posted July 8, 2010 Forgot to mention a couple things. Notice that only Peyton and Flacco started more games than Ryan in their first two years. All three were thrown to the wolves. All three got it done. You can easily argue Ryan was the best. With a shaky Oline and definitely less weapons than Peyton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falken Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Matt Ryan Is A Beast Trust Me +1 I love the thread. Great info. (I love optimism from you....it really suits a long time fan).....but why the 'Trust Me' when you start a thread? It's just curiosity. Is it like a trademark? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 +1 I love the thread. Great info. (I love optimism from you....it really suits a long time fan).....but why the 'Trust Me' when you start a thread? It's just curiosity. Is it like a trademark?Trust Me.. It is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperbh Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Glad to see you're finally coming around on Ryan. I remember just last preseason you were saying that we should have picked Dorsey over Ryan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falken Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Trust Me.. It is......but I'm a trusting guy. Unless you tell me to trust you. Then I'm skeptical as all get out and reach down and make sure my wallet is still in it's rightful place. I go home and count the checks in my checkbook while I'm making a phone call to the locksmith to have my locks re-keyed. I change my passwords online and check my phoneline for a tap. Before I go to bed and only after checking my phoneline I call and have my credit cards re-coded.What I'm getting at is, if you want me to trust you, don't tell me to trust you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kibitzer Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 .....but I'm a trusting guy. Unless you tell me to trust you. Then I'm skeptical as all get out and reach down and make sure my wallet is still in it's rightful place. I go home and count the checks in my checkbook while I'm making a phone call to the locksmith to have my locks re-keyed. I change my passwords online and check my phoneline for a tap. Before I go to bed and only after checking my phoneline I call and have my credit cards re-coded.What I'm getting at is, if you want me to trust you, don't tell me to trust you. Word. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted July 8, 2010 Author Share Posted July 8, 2010 Glad to see you're finally coming around on Ryan. I remember just last preseason you were saying that we should have picked Dorsey over Ryan.You're right. My picks from that year were Dorsey and Flacco. I still think that would have been a good move but I like the Ryan pick. Not ecstatic about the Baker pick yet but it's still early. As far as being on the Ryan wagon, I've been on it for what two years folks? I know an NFL football player when I see one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted July 8, 2010 Author Share Posted July 8, 2010 .....but I'm a trusting guy. Unless you tell me to trust you. Then I'm skeptical as all get out and reach down and make sure my wallet is still in it's rightful place. I go home and count the checks in my checkbook while I'm making a phone call to the locksmith to have my locks re-keyed. I change my passwords online and check my phoneline for a tap. Before I go to bed and only after checking my phoneline I call and have my credit cards re-coded.What I'm getting at is, if you want me to trust you, don't tell me to trust you.There are probably 26 guys you can trust on this board. I'm one of em. I've heard several times before, If you don't trust me, you're probably not trustworthy. When have I ever let you down? Never. Never will. Trust me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperbh Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 .....but I'm a trusting guy. Unless you tell me to trust you. Then I'm skeptical as all get out and reach down and make sure my wallet is still in it's rightful place. I go home and count the checks in my checkbook while I'm making a phone call to the locksmith to have my locks re-keyed. I change my passwords online and check my phoneline for a tap. Before I go to bed and only after checking my phoneline I call and have my credit cards re-coded.What I'm getting at is, if you want me to trust you, don't tell me to trust you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted July 8, 2010 Author Share Posted July 8, 2010 Nice post. That's pretty much me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falken Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 There are probably 26 guys you can trust on this board. I'm one of em. I've heard several times before, If you don't trust me, you're probably not trustworthy. When have I ever let you down? Never. Never will. Trust me.You evidently don't want me to ever get to bed tonight. Reaching down and checking wallet..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted July 8, 2010 Author Share Posted July 8, 2010 You evidently don't want me to ever get to bed tonight. Reaching down and checking wallet.....Well stay up tonight. I'm pretty much a late nighter here.What do you think about Ryan?You think he's average, a bum or can you trust me one freakin time? Jus askin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperbh Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 You're right. My picks from that year were Dorsey and Flacco. I still think that would have been a good move but I like the Ryan pick. Not ecstatic about the Baker pick yet but it's still early. As far as being on the Ryan wagon, I've been on it for what two years folks? I know an NFL football player when I see one."Thought we should have gone with Dorsey and Flacco. Still think that would have been just as good a move as Ryan and Baker." -FFS1970, August, 23 2009Two years? It wasn't even 11 months ago that Ryan was completely interchangeable with Flacco, according to you. Looking forward to your "William Moore is a Beast. Trust Me" thread, which should be appearing on the boards sometime next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnasty Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 I believe the proper term on these boards is BREAST That is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falken Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 No offense.........but Ryan doesn't need your endorsement.His legend started over two years ago. He threw a TD on his first NFL pass. He did the improbable against Chicago. He led this team for the last two years like a man on a mission. This team desperately needed a leader and he stepped into that role like a well tailored suit. His passion showed last season playing hurt for nothing more than pride in the franchise. The main thing now is that he doesn't rest. He wants more. It shows in his off-season work. He doesn't want to be good....he wants to be the best. We have had more physically talented players at the QB position than Matt Ryan. His arm strength is below average. I honestly believe his footspeed is in the bottom 5% of the leauge with only a few punters and kickers keeping him above bottom. But you can't measure what Matt brings to the table with a stopwatch. It's what makes a player like Matt stand out and a player like Jeff George play for several different teams and retire in their prime. It was supposed to be a tough decision between Peyton Manning and Ryan leaf. What a difference it made for those two franchises? Leaf had the arm. Peyton had the desire.I honestly believe the difference between Peyton and Matt is years of experience. The reason Ray Lewis is a future HOF'er is because he trained and studied harder than the competition. He actually showed Ed Reed how to break down film. Tony Gonzolez has the same work habits. When a player is willing to sacrifice to be better they usually accomplish their goals. Ryan fits this mold.I'm 43 years old. I'm not sure how many more starting QB's I'll get in my lifetime. I couldn't pick one in the whole leauge I'd trade for Matt. He has tremendous upside coupled with youth. Give me 10 or 12 more years with this guy. I'll take my chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted July 8, 2010 Author Share Posted July 8, 2010 "Thought we should have gone with Dorsey and Flacco. Still think that would have been just as good a move as Ryan and Baker." -FFS1970, August, 23 2009http://life.atlantafalcons.com/topic/3857070-what-if-ryan-had/page__p__4979967__fromsearch__1entry4979967Two years? It wasn't even 11 months ago that Ryan was completely interchangeable with Flacco, according to you. Looking forward to your "William Moore is a Beast. Trust Me" thread, which should be appearing on the boards sometime next year.Bro I read through that post of mine you dug up and I stick by all of it. I didn't realize you were stalkin me until I read that one. You wanna play some post diggin games with me? I don't think so. I think you do.Alright if you feelin jiggy here's a classic from you for everybody to see.Cooperbh LMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phattywankenobi Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 It was a good point you made a while ago about winning percentages. I still disagree with you about Vick and his potential as an effective QB. I saw Vick at the time the Falcons drafting him (no revisionists history, I don't watch ACC, trust me) as exciting but not an effective leader and passer. I saw Ryan at the time of his draft as a studious yet unknown player. I knew the that many teams have suffered the QB carousel year end and year out and the Falcons needed a QB. So why would they take the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th best when so many at thte time pointed out the number of 1st round busts?Ryan has been dubbed as having the work ethic of P Manning and yet he sees himself mechanically like Brady. Good health and good times ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestufford Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 I believe the proper term on these boards is BREAST That is all.X2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falken Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 X22 breast are better than 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestufford Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 2 breast are better than 1.Word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdFan33 Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 He will be very good this year...and turner will too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illest_will Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 "Thought we should have gone with Dorsey and Flacco. Still think that would have been just as good a move as Ryan and Baker." -FFS1970, August, 23 2009Two years? It wasn't even 11 months ago that Ryan was completely interchangeable with Flacco, according to you. Looking forward to your "William Moore is a Beast. Trust Me" thread, which should be appearing on the boards sometime next year.oh snap!but I'm not one to link winning percentage to a QBs grade...I think too much is put in stock for a QB. it's the same thing in basketball, where a wing player HAS to win a ring to be mentioned with the greats, when it's a well known fact that the big men are the building blocks to championships. them boys in the trenches, a running game, and defense are still probably the most important pieces to the puzzle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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