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Here is some information I read about Vince Young:

Goodell noted that Young -- a first-time legal offender who received a misdemeanor citation for assault -- is unlikely to be suspended, so while Young would no doubt like to have avoided the incident in the first place, it appears as though his playing status for the upcoming season will not be affected by it.

(Rotowire.com)

link : http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/86440/playernotes

If I'm not mistaken this is Babineaux's first offense, right? So the same should apply for Babineaux. Also a plus we have with Babineaux is that he hasn't pleaded guilty and VY was guilty from the start.

I may be wrong though.

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Babs got in a little trouble for killing a dog that attacked him, although I believe all the charges were dropped.

But it did put him on the commishes radar and there may be a note about it in his file.

I HOPE he avoids suspension, but this ain't the first time his name has been in the paper for something negative.

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Babs had a whole laundry list of offenses when this

thing started out. They have gradually fallen off as

the legal process works its way out. At one point I

was certain he would be suspended and deservedly so.

Now it has been quiet for so long it is off my radar.

I supported Babs as he struggled to make the team and

find a starting job. Then I thought the dog situation

was made a big deal because of Vick's situation and there

was no connection between the two. He was getting thrown

to the wolves. When he got caught with weed I just got

off his bandwagon. Neutral is as good as it will ever get

with him as far as I am concerned.

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Maybe any possible suspension would be held off until after this season.

How long does the legal process take in a case like this?

Heck, the Williams' have been dodging thier inevitable suspension for years...

Delay appears to be the NFLPA tactic these days in cases pending. Babs may get lucky.

u need to torpedo that picture. i just wasted over 4 hours of my life gawking at that. who the heck is that anyway lol

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Babs had a whole laundry list of offenses when this

thing started out. They have gradually fallen off as

the legal process works its way out. At one point I

was certain he would be suspended and deservedly so.

Now it has been quiet for so long it is off my radar.

I supported Babs as he struggled to make the team and

find a starting job. Then I thought the dog situation

was made a big deal because of Vick's situation and there

was no connection between the two. He was getting thrown

to the wolves. When he got caught with weed I just got

off his bandwagon. Neutral is as good as it will ever get

with him as far as I am concerned.

WOW, I am soo glad my eternal life is in the hands of God and not man.

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WOW, I am soo glad my eternal life is in the hands of God and not man.

this ^.....people are too judgmental including myself sometimes.

in regards to the topic...you may be unfortunately right rev. maybe a different standard for those 2 policies.

and no he has not failed a drug test before.

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WOW, I am soo glad my eternal life is in the hands of God and not man.

Very true indeed! Babs was thought to be sorry player on

these boards for a long time but I had seen him run and he

looked like a player to me. I said so on several occasions

only to get flamed. Then he gradually emerged and then hit the

the dog issue bump in the road. Old Ladbaby stuck with him.

Then it turns out he is not who I thought he was. So yes I

am a man. My patience is not limitless. He will have to play

his arse off to get back to neutral.

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I think the NFL acts hypocritically in these types of drug cases. They have plenty of money if they wanted to erradicate drug use among players they could easily do it by testing often and suddenly. The reality is they know that players use but they don't want to verify it and have to take action because it would hurt the sport. They cast such a loose net that it is obviously easy to avoid failing a test.

With that said, Babs has acted stupid and whatever happens he has no one to blame but himself. Even if the drugs were not personally his how many times does this kind of stupidity have to happen before these players smarten up? What kind of moron jeopardizes his career by driving around with pot in his car?

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Very true indeed! Babs was thought to be sorry player on

these boards for a long time but I had seen him run and he

looked like a player to me. I said so on several occasions

only to get flamed. Then he gradually emerged and then hit the

the dog issue bump in the road. Old Ladbaby stuck with him.

Then it turns out he is not who I thought he was. So yes I

am a man. My patience is not limitless. He will have to play

his arse off to get back to neutral.

I don't think he cares if he is at neutral with you or not. Your statement is also extremely contradictive.

You know about these guys because they play a sport you like.

It's even better because they play on a team you like.

Their personal business doesn't directly affect you, maybe indirectly IF they are suspended.

You "disown" him because you don't like his personal life, although on the field he has been one of our best players.

You will like him or tolerate him again because he is playing his arse off.

So you don't like him because of his personal life but you will like him because he plays well for your team.

It's kind of contradictive. The same reasons you like him should be the same reasons you dislike him. JMO

I'm not trying to knock you, just showing you a different way to look at it.

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Just a few thoughts from reading these posts. The NFL does not disclose a first time offender. It basically hits the newswire when a player is suspended. From what I have observed a positive test for steroids is a 4 game suspension but not necessarily for non-performance enhancing drugs. One or two games seems to be more common as I recall.

I am sure the NFL would love to test these guys daily but the reality is the NFLPA would not allow it especially D. Smith. Could you imagine every morning you walk in to work. "Good morning Bob, please pee in this cup."

I would think with these Rookie Symposium's every year they would list the number of players who are pulled over for something simple then they don't have current driver's licence or tag but they do have guns and drugs. Yet it still happens every year.

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I don't think he cares if he is at neutral with you or not. Your statement is also extremely contradictive.

You know about these guys because they play a sport you like.

It's even better because they play on a team you like.

Their personal business doesn't directly affect you, maybe indirectly IF they are suspended.

You "disown" him because you don't like his personal life, although on the field he has been one of our best players.

You will like him or tolerate him again because he is playing his arse off.

So you don't like him because of his personal life but you will like him because he plays well for your team.

It's kind of contradictive. The same reasons you like him should be the same reasons you dislike him. JMO

I'm not trying to knock you, just showing you a different way to look at it.

I was his stooge on these boards when when he was

being trashed and continued in that role when he

broke the dog's neck. Then they catch him riding with

his homeboy with some weed and no lights on his tag

and its expired. Intent to distribute. I am out. He

can play, I don't dispute that but, as I have said

he can play for another team as far as I am concerned.

Yes, it is contradictory to go from being an advocate

for someone and then pulling the plug on them for an

entirely different reason. I have been consistent in

my understanding that he can play but now I know

that he is also a knucklehead. Like the captain said

in Remember The Titans, "sometimes you just have to cut

a man". We can do better. Somebody would appreciate his

job more than he does.

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I am sure the NFL would love to test these guys daily but the reality is the NFLPA would not allow it especially D. Smith. Could you imagine every morning you walk in to work. "Good morning Bob, please pee in this cup."

The PA seems more interested in protecting players that have been caught than preventing them from being caught. They even allow players to be placed into a 90 day drug testing program based on behavior only. The fact is the only mandatory drug test for all NFL players happens during the preseason. That is weak.

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If they were going to suspend Babs they should have done it already. The longer this thing drags on the less of a suspension he will have if he has one at all.

There was a laundry list of charges against him to start off

with and as the legal process continues, there are less and less,

pretty soon he may get an award for being a model citizen.

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There was a laundry list of charges against him to start off

with and as the legal process continues, there are less and less,

pretty soon he may get an award for being a model citizen.

Dude was it you're dog he killed or what calm the bleep down!You keep referring to this "laundry list" hmm.. is it guilty until proven Innocent or did I miss something?And as far as being "his stooge" on this board you're doing fine yourself.

And are you saying if a dog attacked you you would let it??**** no you're going to defend yourselves case closed!!

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Babs had a whole laundry list of offenses when this

thing started out. They have gradually fallen off as

the legal process works its way out. At one point I

was certain he would be suspended and deservedly so.

Now it has been quiet for so long it is off my radar.

I supported Babs as he struggled to make the team and

find a starting job. Then I thought the dog situation

was made a big deal because of Vick's situation and there

was no connection between the two. He was getting thrown

to the wolves. When he got caught with weed I just got

off his bandwagon. Neutral is as good as it will ever get

with him as far as I am concerned.

A second round pick and one of, if not THE, most underrated defensive tackles in the NFL struggled to make the team?

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I wouldn't say all that.

He had Grady Jackson and Rod Coleman in front of him.

Ain't too many rooks going to beat them out.

It is revisionist history to try to make out like

this guy was loved and appreciated on these boards

for his first 3 yrs. in the league. He was considered

a bust, not merely waiting his turn. .5 sacks yr. 1.

Year two 1 sack, then year 3 he had 3. I remember all

the yapping about him because I kept talking him up.

Now everybody thinks he is great, they have jumped on

the band wagon.

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It is revisionist history to try to make out like

this guy was loved and appreciated on these boards

for his first 3 yrs. in the league. He was considered

a bust, not merely waiting his turn. .5 sacks yr. 1.

Year two 1 sack, then year 3 he had 3. I remember all

the yapping about him because I kept talking him up.

Now everybody thinks he is great, they have jumped on

the band wagon.

I don't remember that.

I loved him coming out of Iowa.

The only beotching I remember about Babs was that if he couldn't beat out Coleman, they should move him to DE since Anderson sucked.

He didn't hit his stride until *blech* Bobby *blaaagh* Petrino got here. But no one said he sucked.

I am just glad he got some Zimmer time. Because Donatell didn't know what the heck to do with the kid.

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I don't remember that.

I loved him coming out of Iowa.

The only beotching I remember about Babs was that if he couldn't beat out Coleman, they should move him to DE since Anderson sucked.

He didn't hit his stride until *blech* Bobby *blaaagh* Petrino got here. But no one said he sucked.

I am just glad he got some Zimmer time. Because Donatell didn't know what the heck to do with the kid.

Since you can't remember the Babs critics and I can't

forget them.... I will go quietly.

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