jes2400 Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 (edited) The June dead time sure makes you find all kinds of things to do. I was looking at Mike Smith's bio, and I noticed he didn't have much of a pro career(played briefly in the CFL), and that follows a regular trend. Some of the best coaches weren't the best players. When I was younger, I always assumed a star player would be a great coach, but they don't and seem to opt for the play by play booth or the sports show desk. It'll be interesting to see how Singletary will do. I looked at a few other good coaches, and found the same thing as with Smith. Tom Landry had an ordinary pro career in the AAFC with the NY Yankees and Giants in the'50s, as did Chuck Knoll. Bill Belichick and Jim Caldwell didn't even play pro ball. Tony Dungy played for 3 yrs as a reserve DB and special teamer. Bill Parcells was drafted in rnd 7 by Detroit and then released. What I found interesting is, his father didn't want him to play sports in college, he wanted him to study law! Knowing how he is, can you picture Parcells as a lawyer? Mike Shanahan's career was cut short when he was hit hard in practice at college, rupturing a kidney which stopped his heart for 30 seconds, almost killing him. A priest was even called. there's no telling what kind of career he would've had, although the story said he was undersized. All of these coaches won Superbowls except Caldwell, who came close. Could Mike Smith join that list? I'm counting on it! Edited June 27, 2010 by jes2400 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsupersport Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Star players usually have a boatload of natural talent. Rarely do they have to pay super close attention to how to eek out a smidgen more speed, or have to think smarter to make up for lack of speed. Star players are usually more self-centered, because they have been told for years that they are the Star. Star players just play. Mediocre players who love the game, study, plan and learn how to get the most of their limited talent. These skills, getting the most from a limited pool is what makes a coach a good coach. Also usually mediocre players don't have the attitude that "Stars" do, otherwise they are more likely to be more people persons and less primadona. Mediocre players also understand that they might lose their job at any time, and thus spend more time learning other skills around the game they love. There will be exceptions to every rule, Singletary looks to be one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 I Think Peyton Manning will own as a Coach. Anybody Agree? also Matt Ryan seems like he can teach dudes how to play.[iI] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Will.OwnsCP3 Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 I Think Peyton Manning will own as a Coach. Anybody Agree? also Matt Ryan seems like he can teach dudes how to play.[iI]Yeah I think Peyton would be a great... if he decides to become one. Of course Matty Ice would be great too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jes2400 Posted June 27, 2010 Author Share Posted June 27, 2010 Star players usually have a boatload of natural talent. Rarely do they have to pay super close attention to how to eek out a smidgen more speed, or have to think smarter to make up for lack of speed. Star players are usually more self-centered, because they have been told for years that they are the Star. Star players just play. Mediocre players who love the game, study, plan and learn how to get the most of their limited talent. These skills, getting the most from a limited pool is what makes a coach a good coach. Also usually mediocre players don't have the attitude that "Stars" do, otherwise they are more likely to be more people persons and less primadona. Mediocre players also understand that they might lose their job at any time, and thus spend more time learning other skills around the game they love. There will be exceptions to every rule, Singletary looks to be one.I Think Peyton Manning will own as a Coach. Anybody Agree? also Matt Ryan seems like he can teach dudes how to play.[iI]Yeah, you would think QBs would make good coaches since they, like the mediocre players mcsupersport mentioned, study the game more than anyone else. That's the position Shanahan was playing before the near fatal incident. Steve Spurrier was a Heisman trophy winning QB and had a nice NFL career, but evev though he was a good college coach, he could never translate that to the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Yeah, you would think QBs would make good coaches since they, like the mediocre players mcsupersport mentioned, study the game more than anyone else. That's the position Shanahan was playing before the near fatal incident. Steve Spurrier was a Heisman trophy winning QB and had a nice NFL career, but evev though he was a good college coach, he could never translate that to the NFL.Or maybe Peyton manning can accomplish this because he studies the game like no one else. and is his own Offensive Coordinator. Matt Ryan basically being this too but at a much younger stage of his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jes2400 Posted June 27, 2010 Author Share Posted June 27, 2010 Or maybe Peyton manning can accomplish this because he studies the game like no one else. and is his own Offensive Coordinator. Matt Ryan basically being this too but at a much younger stage of his career.Is there a star player in another position besides QB you think could be a good coach? I couldn't think of any. The jury's still out on Singletary. Jerry Rice was a smart player. I just don't see him as a head coach. The star players of today are so full of themselves, I can't see anyone but a QB that could be coaching material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Is there a star player in another position besides QB you think could be a good coach? I couldn't think of any. The jury's still out on Singletary. Jerry Rice was a smart player. I just don't see him as a head coach. The star players of today are so full of themselves, I can't see anyone but a QB that could be coaching material.No. but I can See Peyton Manning coaching.. and Matt Ryan seems like he would be able to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jes2400 Posted June 27, 2010 Author Share Posted June 27, 2010 No. but I can See Peyton Manning coaching.. and Matt Ryan seems like he would be able to do it.How do you see it play out? The way I see it, He'll retire as a Colt(from what I hear they're already working on a contract exstention), they'll ask him to stay on as a QB coach, and eventually he'll be head coach. Just a guess on my part. He's been in Indy so long I could see him staying there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 How many of the most brilliant professors can run a 4.4 40?Can General Petreus bench press 225 40 times?Being a coach requires leadership and outstanding teaching skills which are not requirements of being a good player. Assets yes, requiremenys no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jes2400 Posted June 27, 2010 Author Share Posted June 27, 2010 (edited) How many of the most brilliant professors can run a 4.4 40?Can General Petreus bench press 225 40 times?Being a coach requires leadership and outstanding teaching skills which are not requirements of being a good player. Assets yes, requiremenys no. What are you talking about? General Petreus is good at what he does because he was a great soldier. A brilliant professor is brilliant because he was a very good student. All of the coaches I mentioned weren't good players but played the game and studied it. Leadership and outstanding teaching skills aren't enough. you have to have some knowledge and experience in the game. Petreus or a professor, unless they have some experience in the game, couldn't be a good NFL coach. All I was saying in my post is it just seems funny that great players don't become good coaches and a lot of the very good coaches weren't great players, because, like mcsupersport said, they worked and studied harder because they had to bust their butts to make the team. Edited June 27, 2010 by jes2400 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltstorm2 Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Brian Dawkins, Rod Woodson, Kevin Mawae,Nnamdi Aso,Derick Brooks (spl),Ronde Barber,Warric Dunn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vent King Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Star players usually have a boatload of natural talent. Rarely do they have to pay super close attention to how to eek out a smidgen more speed, or have to think smarter to make up for lack of speed. Star players are usually more self-centered, because they have been told for years that they are the Star. Star players just play. Mediocre players who love the game, study, plan and learn how to get the most of their limited talent. These skills, getting the most from a limited pool is what makes a coach a good coach. Also usually mediocre players don't have the attitude that "Stars" do, otherwise they are more likely to be more people persons and less primadona. Mediocre players also understand that they might lose their job at any time, and thus spend more time learning other skills around the game they love. There will be exceptions to every rule, Singletary looks to be one.I was thinking the same thing, except there's no way I could have put it as well as you just did....kudos! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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